Monday, July 18, 2011

Re: German reaction to our debt disput - strange who they blame

I linked to the entire article in Der Spiegel.

Moe wrote:
> You really have to present the entire article and not just the part
> that justifies your opinion.
>
> The conservative Die Welt writes:
>
> "In this period of competing debt crises, America and Europe are
> looking at each other in amazement, with each side understanding less
> and less about what is happening on the other side of the Atlantic.
> While Europe's chaos is obvious to the Europeans and the rest of the
> world, there are few signs of self-doubt or self-awareness in the US.
> In the middle of the poker game between the two political parties to
> prevent a national default on Aug. 2, polls show that 77 percent of
> Americans believe that they live in the world's greatest system of
> government. Just as many are convinced that life is only worth living
> as an American."
>
> "Democrats and Republicans are so hopelessly embroiled in a religious
> war that compromise and pragmatism are just dreams from a far-off era
> of reason. … The influence of the Tea Party movement … can not be
> overestimated. … The movement sees traditional politics as corrupt and
> regards Washington as a den of iniquity. … They see the other side as
> their enemy. Negotiations with the Democrats, whether it's about
> appointing a judge or the insolvency of the United States, are only
> successful if the enemy is defeated. Compromise, they feel, is a sign
> of weakness and cowardice."
>
> When you sit in Europe and watch the Americans (The favorit past time
> of many Europeans.) you can not help but think that they tick in
> another way. For us, USA is the wild man in the desert with the bible
> in one hand and a six gun in the other hand. Americans are for
> overkill. You do not use a newspaper to kill the fly. You kill the fly
> with a 357 Magnum. It does not matter if the wall is no longer there
> as long as the fly is dead. Look at the Casey Anthony case. You want
> her dead and not just hanging from a tree. You want a stain on the
> wall as a sign of justice. When it comes to the debt situation in the
> United States you see this as a chance to chrush Obama. When he is
> chrushed, the Chinese loose 75 percent of their reserves, meaning that
> they can no longer sustain their economy. This means that artificial
> societies like the oil countries dependant on Americas momentum are
> also unstable. You can take this to any place in the world where the
> dollar controls the economy. This crisis started with Bush and Obama
> has got to clean it up. Here in Europe you really have to question
> the state of mind of a lot of your politicians. This is not like I am
> saying that we have it better here. The difference seems to be that
> you can take a nut case like Palin and make her president. In France
> we would accept that a Strauss Kahn rapes the hotel maid in New York,
> writes a book on social conditions of working class in France and then
> elect him. What is the difference? Strauss Kahn does not have an army
> that can march into Iraq to take over the oil fields, find no threat
> or reason for being there, and end up having to pay to get the Iraq
> back on it feet at the cost of the French taxpayer. In Germany, the
> American Boy Scouts are stronger than the German Army, but we have
> medical care for everyone who can drag himself to a hospital.
> The one thing that is hard is that America is 110 percent when it
> comes to doing something. I mean this in saving the lives of people in
> an area devistated by a natural disaster. The Americans are first
> there with a bang. You look up in the sky and see the Americans with
> 30 planes carrying food. Behind them are two German planes carrying
> food and one of the planes has motor problems. We can only hope that
> America is not 110 percent when it comes to destroying it own
> existance.
>
>
> On Jul 17, 3:48 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> *n That Case, The World Had Better Pay Up: *That was my first (and
>> admittedly ill-tempered) reaction to this story
>> <http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,774666,00.html> from
>> Germany.
>>
>> The mass-circulation Bild writes:
>>
>> "Playing poker is part of politics, as is theatrical posturing.
>> That's fair enough. But what America is currently exhibiting is
>> the worst kind of absurd theatrics. And the whole world is being
>> held hostage."
>>
>> "Irrespective of what the correct fiscal and economic policy should
>> be for the most powerful country on earth, it's simply not possible
>> to stop taking on new debt overnight. Most importantly, the
>> Republicans have turned a dispute over a technicality into a
>> religious war, which no longer has any relation to a reasonable
>> dispute between the elected government and the opposition."
>>
>> Because there isn't a nation in the world that is capable of mounting a
>> hostage rescue mission against the US.
>>
>> I might not have reacted so sharply to that collection of German
>> reactions to our crisis, if it were not for this fact: Not one of the
>> selections that /Der Spiegel/ published mentioned President Obama's
>> failure to /even present a plan/ to solve our long-term fiscal problems.
>> But it is the Republicans these news organizations blame, mostly.
>>
>> (Here's a description of /Bild/ <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild>, if
>> you are wondering what kind of newspaper it is.)
>> - 12:10 PM, 17 July 2011 [link]
>> <http://www.seanet.com/%7Ejimxc/Politics/July2011_3.html#jrm10082>
>>
>
>

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