Perhaps we have highlighted (again) yet another of your difficulties. When you ignore common definitions of words, it is difficult to convey your message in any meaningful way.
Constitutional, as noted previously is of or by the Constitution. The Senate is constitutional -- by definition.
Regard$,
--MJ
"[Democracy] is a fraudulent term used, often by ignorant persons but no less often by intellectual fakers, to describe an infamous mixture of socialism, graft, confiscation of property and denial of personal rights to individuals whose virtuous principles make them offensive" -- Westbrook Pegler, popular columnist of the 1930s and '40s.
At 08:38 PM 5/26/2011, you wrote:
MJ: What "definition" is that? That an anti-democracy and anti-
Republic oligarchy has more power than the former two? The US senate
is THE most corrupt band of career politicians on planet Earth! We
could do better by just giving the vote to the first 100 people to
cross Main Street! — J. A. Armistead — Patriot
>
On May 26, 1:32 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> Again, Constitutional is of or by the Constitution.
> The Senate is constitutional -- by definition.
> Until the removal of the check with Amendment 17 (not properly ratified per Article V), the Senate was the 'representative' of the States -- those entities forming the United States (plural).
> Contrary to your insistence, the Constitution does not create this idea of mob rule to which you are so enamored and believe will *magically* correct ills.
> Regard$,
> --MJ
> Democracy: A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic ... Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based on deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, or impulse, without restraint or regard to the consequences. Result is demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.
> -- U.S. Army training manual No. 2000-25 (1928-1932)Dear MJ: The Founding Fathers were BLACKMAILED into including a
> senate, because small states feared being exploited by larger states.
> The senate is an oligarchy that slaps-in-the-face our Representative
> Republic. Since principles of FAIRNESS are so evident throughout the
> main body of the Constitution, then, the VICTOR in disputes has to be
> the side favoring fair play and democracy! The mere fact that the
> senate was included in the Constitution doesn't make that
> constitutional! Just because 'laws' are passed doesn't make those
> constitutional, either. The US Senate has been a drag of fair play
> and democracy from day one! For the record, the US Supreme Court,
> wherein one justice has a power greater than Congress, or the People,
> is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!! Learn, if you can, MJ. So far you seem
> committed to a lifetime of taking-over your flunked courses in how to
> think. — J. A. A. —
> >
> On May 25, 9:43 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > The US Senate, which was originally selected by the legislatures of
> > the several states, was an ill conceived OLIGARCHY. Since there has
> > never been a parity of the population served by each senator, that
> > means the USA has two conflicting political systems, and the oligarchy
> > is the one which isn't FAIR. Giving undue power to smaller population
> > states slaps REPUBLIC ideas in the face. So, the US Senate is and
> > always has been, unconstitutional.The Senate -- by definition -- cannot be unconstitutional.
> > What you (continue) fail to grasp is that the Constitution is/was an agreement between Sovereign States. The Senate is THEIR representative body. Amendment 17 curtailed yet another check on Federal power.
> > Regard$,
> > --MJ
> > The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State. -- James Madison, Federalist Papers
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