Re: is there discrimination or quotas against Asians in education?

quotas based on race, ethnicity or religious beliefs is wrong
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Agreed.

I just happen to live in a town with the highest concentration of
colleges in the world, and to claim bias AGAINST Asians, looks quite
ludicrous from here.

And my son goes to a Jesuit College, and there's more than a handful
of Jews there. I think thats rather remarkable.

On May 3, 10:06 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> is there discrimination or quotas against Asians in education?
> ----
> quotas based on race, ethnicity or religious beliefs is wrong
>
> we can thank the jews at the ACLU for them
>
> Jews are being favored at Vanderbilt University (aggressively
> recruited for the first time) and will keep being disfavored at the
> University of Michigan Law School (passed over for less qualified
> blacks and Hispanics), at least until the U.S. Supreme Court steps in.
> It's hard to decide which of these two stories is more excruciating.
> Vanderbilt, a Bible Belt university located in Nashville, is targeting
> Jewish students in an "elite strategy" to boost itself toward Ivy
> League status. Chancellor Gordon Gee announced this plan along with a
> series of relentlessly pro-Semitic compliments guaranteed to set every
> Jewish tooth on edge: Jews are lively, interesting and hardworking,
> and come from a rich culture. All well meant, no doubt, but close to
> conventional stereotypes.
>
> Then there is the problem of leaving the word "Jewish" hovering in the
> air within 10 paces of the word "elite." Our campuses are addicted to
> ethnic and racial tinkering, so problems like this are common.
> Vanderbilt wants to pep up its image (and presumably its ranking in
> U.S. News & World Report's college guide) by importing some bright
> Jews. But the university doesn't seem to have a clue about how
> offensive this is, and not just to Jews. Christian students will now
> understand that their university views them as unimpressive bumpkins
> in need of non-Christian help.
>
> The College Board has fueled the new market in religious identity
> groups by asking college-bound test-takers to list their faith. Jews
> came in second in the testing sweepstakes (1161 average board scores),
> exceeded only by Unitarians (1209). According to The Wall Street
> Journal, some colleges now buy the names of Jewish students from the
> College Board. This has overtones of the scramble for free agents in
> all major sports. The unspoken premise is that if the Jewish free
> agents are attractive enough, they will be granted an edge over
> equally qualified gentile candidates.
>
> Here we go again. Although Vanderbilt claims that it's just marketing
> to a new group of students, this looks like yet another identity-group
> preference scheme by college officials who seem constitutionally
> unable to hold all candidates for admission to a common standard.
>
> Jewish students are also at the heart of a controversy over the
> University of Michigan Law School's preference system. Ruled
> unconstitutional last year by a federal district judge, the system was
> upheld last week in a 5-to-4 decision by the 6th Circuit Court of
> Appeals. The case is likely to go to the Supreme Court.
>
> In dissent, Judge Danny Boggs noted that "a significant proportion" of
> the Michigan law school applicants who lose out because of "diversity"
> preferences are Jewish. Though the plan is pro-minority, not anti
> Semitic, he says it reduces the number of Jews much the same way anti-
> Semitic Ivy League admissions policies did in the 1930s (not to
> mention the 1920s, '40s and '50s). In those days, as one writer put
> it, "If you were a Jew with an A average and 1600 on the boards, you
> wouldn't get into Yale as fast as a South Dakota farm boy with a
> gentleman's C."
>
> It's a grave charge that Jewish quotas are making a comeback of sorts
> as a byproduct of "diversity" preferences. "Diversity" people are
> committed to the rhetoric of "underrepresentation": Every aggrieved
> group is entitled to the same proportion of university slots as its
> percentage of the population. But where will these slots come from?
> The so-called white ethnics are already "underrepresented." A few
> years ago, the head of the National Italian-American Foundation said
> Americans of Italian ancestry account for 8 percent or 9 percent of
> the American population and only 3 percent of Ivy League students. The
> slots can come only from the two groups that have dramatically
> exceeded expectations: Jews and Asian-Americans.
>
> Jews are only 2 percent of the population, but at Ivy League schools
> they account for 23 percent of students. In diversity-speak, a
> language with no word for merit, this means that Jews are
> "overrepresented" and logically headed back toward quotas. Boggs
> writes: "The law school and the court will certainly deny this, but
> that is where the figures unavoidably lead us."
>
> Affirmative action started out as a mild and temporary tie-breaking
> plan applied to equally qualified candidates. It mutated into a huge
> boost for low-scoring minority candidates. At the University of
> Michigan Law School, race is worth more than one full grade point of
> college average. And now it seems headed for "representation" quotas
> for all racial and ethnic groups. Is this any way to run a university?
>
> On May 3, 7:07 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > This Meetup will be announced to the group if 3 people say
> > they're going. Or you can announce it now.
>
> > Arvin Vohra suggested a new Meetup.
>
> > What: Anti-Asian Bias In College Admissions? (feat.
> > refreshments from Food for Thin)
>
> > Why: Because Asian Americans deserve equal education
> > opportunities
>
> > When: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 6:30 PM
>
> > Where:
> > Arvin Vohra Education
> > 4626 River Road
> > Bethesda, MD
>
> > A century ago, college admissions were changed to make it
> > harder for Jews to get into college. Today, according to
> > analysts like Malcolm Gladwell, Asians have become the new
> > Jews. Gladwell and others claim it is harder for equivalently
> > qualified ...
>
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