Monday, April 25, 2011

Re: Wringing-the-Neck of Empty Ritual.

J. Ashley: A correctly working free enterprise system requires very
little string-pulling by government. Read the half page or so of
restrictions in my New Constitution on what kind of laws can be
passed. Government will start getting SMALLER, not bigger! — J. A.
A. —

On Apr 22, 4:39 pm, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
wrote:
> Most everything people do is done on a voluntary basis - no government
> required.
>
> On 04/22/2011 01:33 PM, Mark wrote:
>
> > And it still functions without the lawmakers.... Go figure.
>
> > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Jonathan Ashley
> > <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com <mailto:jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>>
> > wrote:
>
> >     John,
>
> >     "In terms of comparative social spending on welfare-related
> >     programs as a percentage of the gross domestic product (GDP),
> >     Denmark ranks first, spending more than 29 percent of GDP on its
> >     welfare-related programs. Next is Sweden (nearly 29 percent),
> >     followed by France, Germany, Belgium, Switzerland, Austria, and
> >     Finland. The United Kingdom ranks in the middle of the pack in
> >     13th place (nearly 22 percent of GDP). The United States ranks
> >     near the bottom, in 26th place (out of 29), spending less than 15
> >     percent of its GDP on social welfare programs. The United States
> >     ranks just ahead of Ireland, Mexico, and South Korea."
>
> >    http://pagerankstudio.com/Blog/2011/03/what-is-welfare-state/
>
> >     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >     On 04/22/2011 08:41 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
> >>     On average, yes they are!  Few in Belgium look to government for
> >>     handouts.  In the USA, close to 45% want a government handout.
> >>     Anything over 5% is excessive.  But that's why I've written my New
> >>     Constitution�to get government out of the hand-out, pull-the-strings
> >>     business!   �  John A. Armistead �  Patriot
> >>     On Apr 21, 9:56 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>  <mailto:jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> >>     wrote:
> >>>     So, you're saying the People of Belgium are better People than those in
> >>>     the United States?
>
> >>>>     J. Ashley:  Run your experiments in Belgium, then!  The USA would be
> >>>>     in civil war...   � J. A. A. �
> >>>>     On Apr 21, 12:04 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>  <mailto:jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> >>>>     wrote:
> >>>>>     John,
> >>>>>     It is highly doubtful that we would return to the stone age without
> >>>>>     government. Belgium has been without a national government for more than
> >>>>>     313 days and "Belgians say the absence of a government doesn't make much
> >>>>>     of a difference in their daily lives."
> >>>>>     On 04/20/2011 08:42 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
> >>>>>>     Jonathan:  You are showing some smarts there!  Since I am an untra-
> >>>>>>     conservative capitalist, I don't like being... "left" of anyone,
> >>>>>>     because that would seem to make me... a God-damned liberal.  I
> >>>>>>     deliberately avoided using the "L" word, because I am the exact
> >>>>>>     opposite.  If your ego considers being an anarchist more conservative
> >>>>>>     than me, consider this: The USA would return to the 'stone ages'
> >>>>>>     within one month of there being no government(s).  So, your "ideal" of
> >>>>>>     no taxation and no government won't benefit a soul on Earth.  Is
> >>>>>>     having you "get real" too much to ask?  ï¿½  J. A. Armistead �  Patriot
> >>>>>>     On Apr 20, 12:50 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>  <mailto:jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> >>>>>>     wrote:
> >>>>>>>     John,
> >>>>>>>     Since anarchy is absence of government, how can one be "right" of
> >>>>>>>     anarchy? (I don't actually expect an answer, as you NEVER answer
> >>>>>>>     questions posed to you.)
> >>>>>>>     On 04/20/2011 01:54 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
> >>>>>>>>     Jonathan:  For you, anything 'right' of anarchy is socialist.  I
> >>>>>>>>     suggest you write your one paragraph constitution banning government.
> >>>>>>>>     Unless you are from the stone ages, you won't survive very long on
> >>>>>>>>     your own.  ï¿½  J. A. A. �
> >>>>>>>>     On Apr 18, 11:53 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>  <mailto:jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> >>>>>>>>     wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>     But John, you're the one who has written a socialist constitution.
> >>>>>>>>>     On 04/18/2011 08:31 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>     Jonathan:  Mainly he's done that by attacking the capitalist system
> >>>>>>>>>>     that made this country great; and by supposing that government should
> >>>>>>>>>>     control everything (with him in charge).  The fact that you even ask
> >>>>>>>>>>     that question confirms my initial gut reaction that you are a
> >>>>>>>>>>     socialist-communist, like 95% of Democrats are.  The remaining 5% are
> >>>>>>>>>>     just stupid.  You're in both of those groups.  ï¿½ J. A. Armistead �
> >>>>>>>>>>     Patriot
> >>>>>>>>>>     On Apr 18, 3:03 pm, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>  <mailto:jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>     wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>     John,
> >>>>>>>>>>>     That you own stock in a company that routinely downgrades websites based
> >>>>>>>>>>>     on "link relevance" over "content relevance" says much about your
> >>>>>>>>>>>     credibility regarding the understanding of what freedom of expression means.
> >>>>>>>>>>>     That you believe Obama "has caused more economic and social harm to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>     USA than any other person who ever lived, including Hitler" seems
> >>>>>>>>>>>     ludicrous. Just how has he (as an individual) been able to pull off this
> >>>>>>>>>>>     tremendous task?
> >>>>>>>>>>>     On 04/17/2011 09:05 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     Dear Mark:  I own Google stock.  It's an American multinational
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     Corporation that's headquartered in Mountain View, California.  Google
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     World shows the new complex quite well.  In many ways you are very
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     naive.  Your obvious desire to protect Barack Obama's neck from the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     noose is tantamount to looking-the-other-way to those who commit
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     TREASON every day of their existence.  Would you put on moderation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     someone who proposes that Libyan President Kadafi should be killed?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     Do you suppose it is Google's obligation to protect those who kill
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     their citizens?  Hundreds, if not thousands, of Americans have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     committed suicide because of the bad economy and the lack of jobs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     resulting from Obama's socialist-capitalist policies.  He has caused
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     more economic and social harm to the USA than any other person who
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     ever lived, including Hitler.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     Treason is a recognized capital offense.  Those in our government and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     in our law enforcement who don't press to have that bastard arrested,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     tried and hanged are themselves in violation of the Constitution for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     giving aid and comfort to the enemy.  Keith suggested that you,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     Jonathan and MJ are anxious to read my next "missive".  He's viewed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     you all in a favorable light, before.  As for me, I suspect you are so
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     screwed-up in the head that you are both for and against having a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     better government.  That means you have schizophrenia.  Get some couch-
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     time, Mark.  You need it!  ï¿½  J. A. Armistead �  Patriot
> >>>>>>>>>>>>     On Apr 16, 10:28 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE<markmka...@gmail.com>  <mailto:markmka...@gmail.com>            wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     Einstein,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     Again, you mistake me for someone that is liable under the present, or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     your future, US Constitution. The message you received is the standard
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     message sent to all new or moderated members, get used to it. It
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     originates from outside the US and is also not liable under US law.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     Isn't the internet grand when the originating country has the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     responsibility for what is or is not allowed under their law(s).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>     On Apr 16, 7:11 pm, NoEinstein<noeinst...@bellsouth.net>  <mailto:noeinst...@bellsouth.net>            wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Dear Keith:  I sensed that there was a common thread of "reasoning" in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     those you name. My last missive, as you say, was explaining why Jews
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     are causing a lot of problems and expense while seeming to be such
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     nice people.  Israel should become a training place for successful
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     capitalism.  Only the latter can start to heal the deep wounds Muslims
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     feel.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Today, when I posted: "Can The Donald 'Fix' the Thin Ice that the USA
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     is skating on?"  There was a message (Mark's responsibility?) saying
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     that moderators must approve what I say.  Of course that in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     UNCONSTITUTIONAL by both the present Constitution, and by my New
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Constitution, which requires that Mark be fired from his job.  If you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     butterfly conservatives are starting to understand what I'm saying,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     then you should like to know that about 85% of my New Constitution has
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     now  been copied and pasted for interested citizens to read.  The last
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     15% relates to problems with government which I have batted heads
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     with, first hand.  Once people begin showing appreciation for the 85%
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     of my non-Stalinesk document, the remainder will become available.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     But NOT on this forum.  The full document will be presented as part of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     a book containing my many essays and detailed rational for why this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     country needs a New Constitution Now.  You guys can help speed things
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     along by talking-up my document on the NET.  ï¿½ John A. Armistead �
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Patriot
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On Apr 16, 4:17 pm, Keith In K�ln<keithinta...@gmail.com>  <mailto:keithinta...@gmail.com>            wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Hey John!
>
> ...
>
> read more »

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