you.
On 02/11/2011 05:34 PM, Tommy News wrote:
> Sounds negative and insulting to me.
>
>
>
> On 2/11/11, frankg<frankg2@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Tommy,
>>
>> Can you explain how "The problem is you're so blinded by your bias
>> that you can't even tell you're looking into a mirror." is an insult?
>> Blinded by bias, as in anyone who has extreme views one way or
>> another, so much so that they can not comprehend an alternative point
>> of view. Lots of people fall into that category. In this case you cite
>> a poll that was intended to point out the extreme, hateful nature of
>> Republicans yet you fail to see that similar polls and comments were
>> made by Democrats about Bush during his presidency. Hence the
>> hypocrisy comment.
>>
>> My comment, "Are you really so ignorant that you are unable to
>> understand the point I'm making, or deliberately avoiding it because
>> it exposes the hypocritical nature of the poll?" was made AFTER you
>> accused me of hateful insults. And again, not insulting you, just
>> questioning why you can not address the issue. Either you do not
>> understand it (ignorant?) or you're deliberately avoiding it. So which
>> is it? I wouldn't have even had to question this if you had just
>> addressed the question and not played your childish 'you suck, you
>> hate' game. I don't hate you, I'm trying to understand you. But it's
>> damn hard to do when you never address a question.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 11, 4:14 pm, Tommy News<tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Frank-
>>>
>>> You said "Are you really so ignorant that you are unable to understand the
>>> point
>>> I'm making, or deliberately avoiding it because it exposes the
>>> hypocritical nature of the poll?".
>>>
>>> That sounds like another officious hateful personal insult, to me.
>>> Another violation of the group rules by you.
>>>
>>> On 2/10/11, frankg<fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you really so ignorant that you are unable to understand the point
>>>> I'm making, or deliberately avoiding it because it exposes the
>>>> hypocritical nature of the poll?
>>>> My comment to you on this thread was not hateful nor was it about you.
>>>> I simply pointed out the hypocrisy of the poll. To do that, I gave you
>>>> a point for point equivalency to what Democrats were saying during the
>>>> Bush years. Can you debate that or not?
>>>> And a second challenge to you.. point out where in this thread I made
>>>> hateful insults to you or anyone else.
>>>> On Feb 10, 1:20 pm, Tommy News<tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Although I get alot of hateful insults and negative arguments from
>>>>> Conservative
>>>>> Pundits, Libertarian Loons, Wingnut Fascists, and Republican
>>>>> Obstructionists, I still
>>>>> believe that my informative efforts are worthwhile.
>>>>> Frank, I suggest that you should refrain from looking in the mirror, as
>>>>> it
>>>>> may well shatter if you do.
>>>>> On 2/6/11, frankg<fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Tommy,
>>>>>> As previously noted, the responses from this poll are absolutely no
>>>>>> different than the responses given by Democrats during Bush's final
>>>>>> six years. The problem is you're so blinded by your bias that you
>>>>>> can't even tell you're looking into a mirror.
>>>>>> On Feb 6, 9:13 pm, Tommy News<tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Well, around here, it's sort of all part of the vast
>>>>>>> evangelical-church-Republican-politics-"America"-first rightwing
>>>>>>> thing. People learn from their ministers that God tolerates only
>>>>>>> Republican politics and FOX News, and that "America" is exceptional,
>>>>>>> so it's fully equipped--nay, required--to protect Israel so that
>>>>>>> Jesus
>>>>>>> can return and they can be raptured before the really bad stuff
>>>>>>> happens; then, they get to come back with Jesus and throw all the
>>>>>>> "unperfected" Jews into the pit of fire, along with all the rest of
>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>> who tolerated and cared for our fellow humans. I could go on, but I
>>>>>>> already feel bad just for writing that much, and all it is is the
>>>>>>> truth. But people who watch it believe FOX because they want to,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> because they believe it's the right thing to do.
>>>>>>> On 2/6/11, MJ<micha...@america.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> And yet MORE fallacy.
>>>>>>>> Whether or not the Author is this, that or the other is
>>>>>>>> MEANINGLESS
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> far
>>>>>>>> as the veracity of his claim.
>>>>>>>> Similarly, with what group he may or may not be aligned (or
>>>>>>>> purported
>>>>>>>> so) is
>>>>>>>> equally MEANINGLESS.
>>>>>>>> Regard$,
>>>>>>>> --MJ
>>>>>>>> Since World War II, and especially since the 1950s, the function
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Republican Party has been to be the "loyal, . . . . moderate,"
>>>>>>>> "bi-partisan," pseudo-opposition to the collectivist and leftist
>>>>>>>> program
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the Democratic Party. Unlike the more apocalyptic and impatient
>>>>>>>> Bolsheviks,
>>>>>>>> the Mensheviks (or social democrats, or corporate liberals, or
>>>>>>>> "responsible"
>>>>>>>> liberals, or "responsible" conservatives, or neo-conservatives --
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> labels
>>>>>>>> change, but the reality remains the same) try to preserve an
>>>>>>>> illusion
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> free choice for the American public, including a two-party system,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> least marginal freedom of speech and expression.
>>>>>>>> The goal of these "responsible" or "enlightened" moderates has
>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> participate in the march to statism, while replacing the older
>>>>>>>> American
>>>>>>>> ideals of free markets, private property, and limited government
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> cloudy
>>>>>>>> and noisy rhetoric about the glories of "democracy," as opposed to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> one-party dictatorship of the Soviet Union.
>>>>>>>> -- Murray Rothbard, Making Economic Sense
>>>>>>>> At 08:49 AM 2/6/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Here's a little about the author, Jonathan Kantrowitz, from
>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>> cites his purported "poll":
>>>>>>>>> Founder, Chief Executive Officer. Queue, Inc., an educational
>>>>>>>>> publisher.
>>>>>>>>> 1981-present; Assistant General Counsel. Touche Ross& Co.
>>>>>>>>> 1977-1981;
>>>>>>>>> Coordinator, Fairfield Over-30 Men's Soccer, 1987-present;
>>>>>>>>> Member,
>>>>>>>>> Fairfield Board of Education, 1992-1994; Member, Fairfield Board
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> Recreation, 1998-1999; Member, Fairfield TV Access Committee,
>>>>>>>>> 2008-2009,
>>>>>>>>> Economic Development Administrator, Town of Fairfield
>>>>>>>>> (consultant)
>>>>>>>>> 2002;
>>>>>>>>> Chairman, Fairfield Temporary Pool Committee, 2004, Chairman,
>>>>>>>>> Fairfield
>>>>>>>>> TV
>>>>>>>>> Access Committee, 2008; Member, Fairfield Democratic Town
>>>>>>>>> Committee,
>>>>>>>>> 1972-2002; Vice-Chairman, Fairfield Democratic Town Committee,
>>>>>>>>> 1994-2000;
>>>>>>>>> Democratic Candidate, U.S. Congress, 1994, 1998, State Senate
>>>>>>>>> 1972,
>>>>>>>>> 1984;
>>>>>>>>> Education:; Brown University: B.A. Economics (1966); Harvard Law
>>>>>>>>> School:
>>>>>>>>> JD (1969).
>>>>>>>>> A couple of thoughts come to mind. First, Kantrowitz is a prime
>>>>>>>>> example
>>>>>>>>> of an "Academian" and the reason that our schools and universites
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> such a mess. I would bet that Kantrowitz is a socialist also,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> can be no doubt that Kantrowitz has posted a hate filled
>>>>>>>>> prevaricate
>>>>>>>>> rhetorical post, and this is an example of what he teaches his
>>>>>>>>> pupils.
>>>>>>>>> Who took this poll? Who were the participants of the poll?
>>>>>>>>> Note
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> Kantrowitz does not reference any of these most important
>>>>>>>>> aspects.
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> poll is basically not at all reliable and is another example of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> hate
>>>>>>>>> coming from the far left extremist Anti-American socialistic
>>>>>>>>> movement
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> is very vocal, but still nevertheless a small minority of our
>>>>>>>>> Nation.
>>>>>>>>> They should not be in charge of our schools and universities of
>>>>>>>>> higher
>>>>>>>>> education.
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:15 AM, frankg<fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Tommy,
>>>>>>>>> Change the names of the talking heads and politicians, replace
>>>>>>>>> ACORN
>>>>>>>>> stealing the election to simply stealing the election, replace
>>>>>>>>> socialist with communist, impeached can stay in there, replace
>>>>>>>>> "wants
>>>>>>>>> the terrorists to win" with "9/11 was an inside job", etc., and
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> could be discussing what the Democrats were saying about Bush a
>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>> years ago. This type of hateful rhetoric solves nothing, is not
>>>>>>>>> unique
>>>>>>>>> to either party and generally just proves there are a lot of
>>>>>>>>> intolerant idiots in both political parties.
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 8:40 pm, Tommy News<tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I Think, Therefore I am Not
>>>>>>>>>> Glenn Beck.......Sarah Palin.....Ann Coulter....Rush
>>>>>>>>>> Limbaugh....Michelle Bachmann.....Christine O`Donnell....John
>>>>>>>>>> McCain....John Boehner.......Newt Gingrich.......Ron
>>>>>>>>>> Paul.........Mitt
>>>>>>>>>> Romney..........Mitch McConnell.........The Tea Party
>>>>>>>>>> Sheeple......A
>>>>>>>>>> Faux Noise Pundit.....A Republican Obstructionist......A
>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian
>>>>>>>>>> Loon..etc.
>>>>>>>>>> Republican Intelligence – an Oxymoron?
>>>>>>>>>> by Jonathan Kantrowitz
>>>>>>>>>> A new poll of self-identified Republicans released Tuesday
>>>>>>>>>> shows a
>>>>>>>>>> large slice of the GOP believes President Barack Obama is a
>>>>>>>>>> "socialist" who was not born in this country, should be
>>>>>>>>>> impeached,
>>>>>>>>>> wants the terrorists to win and only won the 2008 election
>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>> ACORN "stole" it for him.
>>>>>>>>>> According to the poll, 63 percent of Republicans believe Obama
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> socialist; 39 percent think Obama should be impeached; 24
>>>>>>>>>> percent
>>>>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>>>> Obama wants "the terrorists to win"; and 31 percent agreed with
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> statement that Obama is "a racist who hates white people."
>>>>>>>>>> According to the survey, 36 percent of respondents do not
>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> president was born in this country, and 21 percent think the
>>>>>>>>>> liberal
>>>>>>>>>> advocacy group ACORN stole the election for Obama.
>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, nearly a quarter of the Republicans polled, 23
>>>>>>>>>> percent,
>>>>>>>>>> want their state to secede from the union.
>>>>>>>>>> Fifty-one percent of those polled believe sex education should
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> taught in schools; 77 percent want creationism taught in
>>>>>>>>>> schools;
>>>>>>>>>> 31
>>>>>>>>>> percent want contraception outlawed; and 34 percent believe
>>>>>>>>>> birth
>>>>>>>>>> control is "abortion."
>>>>>>>>>> More:
>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.ctnews.com/kantrowitz/2010/02/04/republican-intelligence-.
>>>>>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>>>>>> Tommy
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