Your hate, lies and smear become more ridiculous with each post.
Stop the Hate!
On 1/23/11, Keith In Köln <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> You are a Moonbat Lil' Tommie, and you just keep getting more ridiculous
> each and every post. Now, you have confused who is on the right and who is
> on the left. Stop the hate, lies and smear Lil' Tommie! You will feel
> better about yourself if you let it go!!
>
>
>
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> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There are conspiracy theorists on both the Right and on the Left.
>>
>> More on the left, parroting their hateful Faux smear on Faux Noise.
>>
>> Remember the Rove-Rumsfeld-Cheney-Dubya lies that led to the illegal
>> invasion of Iraq!
>>
>> On 1/23/11, Keith In Köln <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I don't know who reminded me of this, it was probably you Bruce, but
>> Rosie
>> > O'Donnell, Charlie Sheen, Cynthia "Queen Moonbat McKinney, Ed Asner,
>> > Jesse "The Body" (And former voice of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers)
>> Ventura,
>> > Whoopie Goldberg, and a host of other Moonbats are also
>> > conspiratorialists.....Far from anything remotely considered, "Right
>> > Wing". Once again, Lil' Tommie continues to spread hate, lies and
>> smear,
>> > from the likes of a Moonbat like Michele Goldberg, (I'm sure, a good
>> Irish
>> > American gal)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> I believe I met Michelle in DC.
>> >>
>> >> Typical middle brow whoreflak.
>> >>
>> >> What makes 9/11 conspiracy theorists "right wing"?
>> >>
>> >> John Stroebel, your fellow Obama supporting yahoogroup spammer, is one,
>> >> and
>> >> he was a socialist for years, though lately he has been pretending to
>> like
>> >> Ron Paul (while continuing to smear anyone who criticizes Odumbie).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> The Cult Web Film that Inspired Loughner
>> >>>
>> >>> by Michelle Goldberg
>> >>>
>> >>> We now know a little bit more about the matrix of ideas that helped
>> >>> inspire Jared Loughner's murderous rampage on Saturday. According to a
>> >>> friend of his interviewed on Good Morning America on Wednesday, the
>> >>> conspiracy documentary Zeitgeist "poured gasoline on his fire" and had
>> >>> "a profound impact on Jared Loughner's mindset and how he views the
>> >>> world that he lives in." He was also, according to his friend's
>> >>> father, influenced by the documentary Loose Change, a classic of the
>> >>> 9/11 Truth movement. This does not mean that either of these movies is
>> >>> responsible for making Loughner do what he did, but it does show how
>> >>> his madness was shaped by a broader climate of paranoia, and offers a
>> >>> clue as to why he targeted Gabrielle Giffords.
>> >>>
>> >>> According to his friend, Zach Osler, Loughner "didn't listen to
>> >>> political radio, he didn't take sides, he wasn't on the left, he
>> >>> wasn't on the right." Naturally, conservatives have seized upon this
>> >>> to exonerate themselves of charges of incitement. But it's not that
>> >>> simple. It's hard to place Zeitgeist and Loose Change on the
>> >>> conventional partisan spectrum—both come from a shadowy conspiracy-mad
>> >>> subculture where the far right and the far left meet. Yet it's the
>> >>> contemporary right, the right of Glenn Beck and the Tea Party, that
>> >>> has mainstreamed ideas from this demimonde in an unprecedented way.
>> >>>
>> >>> To understand how, it helps to look at the career of Alex Jones, an
>> >>> Austin radio host and the country's most prominent conspiracy
>> >>> theorist. Jones was the executive producer of Loose Change, and chunks
>> >>> of Zeitgeist are taken from his documentary Terrorstorm. Jones
>> >>> disagrees with elements of Zeitgeist—he's a Christian, while Zeitgeist
>> >>> attacks religion—but he's said he supports 90 percent of what's in the
>> >>> movie, and he promotes it on his show. "A lot of people find my work
>> >>> because of Zeitgeist," he said during an interview with the
>> >>> documentary's director, Peter Joseph.
>> >>>
>> >>> The point, again, is not that Alex Jones, Zeitgeist, or The Tea Party
>> >>> are responsible for Loughner's crimes. The point is that he targeted
>> >>> Giffords for a reason, one rooted in his unhinged interpretation of
>> >>> recognizable conspiracy theories.
>> >>>
>> >>> Both Zeitgeist and Alex Jones promote the idea that world events are
>> >>> controlled by a secretive banking cabal that is using debt to enslave
>> >>> us all. Zeitgeist echoes Alex Jones in warning that the United States
>> >>> is about to be merged with Canada and Mexico into a "North American
>> >>> Union" that will use a new currency, the "Amero." "When the time is
>> >>> right," Zeitgeist informs us, "the North American Union, The European
>> >>> Union, the African Union, and the Asian Union will be merged together,
>> >>> forming the final stages of the plan these men have been working on
>> >>> for over 60 years: a one-world government." This government will
>> >>> implant microchips in all of our arms. "In the end, everybody will be
>> >>> locked into a monitored control grid, where every single action you
>> >>> perform is documented," it says.
>> >>>
>> >>> Zeitgeist, which came out in 2007 and has since spawned two sequels,
>> >>> is an Internet phenomenon. The two-hour documentary is available for
>> >>> free online, and according to its creators, it has been viewed tens of
>> >>> millions of times. Its claims are heatedly debated on Ron Paul forums
>> >>> and anarchist websites; excerpts appear on numerous Tea Party pages.
>> >>> It has a global following: When it played in a South African theater,
>> >>> the Cape Times described it as a "disturbing reminder" of "the subtle
>> >>> move towards a micro-chipped society, with the world's population
>> >>> potentially destined to be logged onto a monitored grid, leading up to
>> >>> a centralized one world economy."
>> >>>
>> >>> The idea of control and manipulation is the movie's real theme,
>> >>> knitting together its disparate parts. Zeitgeist's second-third
>> >>> rehashes classic 9/11 Truth theories that purport to show that the
>> >>> attacks were actually an inside job. This was done, the final section
>> >>> argues, at the behest of a banking cabal that has repeatedly goaded
>> >>> the United States into war in order to solidify its wealth and power.
>> >>> Chip Berlet, a senior analyst at the think tank Political Research
>> >>> Associates and one of the country's foremost experts on right-wing
>> >>> movements, points out that Zeitgeist borrows liberally from the G.
>> >>> Edward Griffin's The Creature from Jekyll Island, an "expose" of the
>> >>> Federal Reserve System popular with the John Birch Society, Alex
>> >>> Jones, and some Tea Party groups. It also draws on ideas from the
>> >>> Protocols of the Elders of Zion, though it never mentions Jews.
>> >>>
>> >>> Right-wing conspiratorial beliefs have long festered on the fringes,
>> >>> but in the Obama era, they've been injected into the center of our
>> >>> politics like never before. The distance between figures like Alex
>> >>> Jones and the contemporary conservative movement has shrunk
>> >>> alarmingly.
>> >>>
>> >>> Steeped in the rhetoric of the militia movement, Jones has promoted
>> >>> just about every conspiracy theory out there: He even accused the
>> >>> Illuminati of putting its symbols in the Starbucks logo as a taunting
>> >>> show of strength. Though rooted in the right, he also occasionally has
>> >>> guests from the far left—he's hosted Democratic Congressman Dennis
>> >>> Kucinich [Kucinich is on the "far left"? -- WH] as well as Texas
>> >>> Republican Louie Gohmert. His political hero is Ron Paul—he runs
>> >>> RonPaulWarRoom.com, and Paul is a frequent guest on his radio show.
>> >>> But until recently, most conservatives disdained him. In 2007,
>> >>> Michelle Malkin argued that Paul's association with Jones was enough
>> >>> to disqualify the congressman from participating in GOP primary
>> >>> debates.
>> >>>
>> >>> Since then, though, Republican politics have become a lot more
>> >>> paranoid. Tea Party groups and Fox News started echoing Jones'
>> >>> warnings that the swine flu virus was really a pretext to establish
>> >>> martial law. Lou Dobbs went on Jones' show in 2008 to discuss the
>> >>> coming North American Union. In March 2009, Jones released The Obama
>> >>> Deception, which argued that Obama is the front man for a
>> >>> transnational oligarchy working to create a one-world totalitarian
>> >>> state. The day after it came out, the online Fox News show Freedom
>> >>> Watch did a joint broadcast with him. "I appreciate what you're
>> >>> exposing," Fox host Andrew Napolitano told Jones. "I must tell you
>> >>> that there was a time when the types of things that you are warning
>> >>> against was not discussed openly and publicly." Glenn Beck
>> >>> fictionalized Jones-style conspiracy theories in his 9/11 truth-themed
>> >>> novel, The Overton Window.
>> >>>
>> >>> People who study the right have worried for months about the
>> >>> consequences of paranoid beliefs about treasonous government plots. In
>> >>> 2009, Berlet authored a report titled, "Toxic to Democracy: Conspiracy
>> >>> Theories, Demonization and Scapegoating." It traced the history and
>> >>> dissemination of the kind of conspiracy theories floating around the
>> >>> right, and said, "People who believe conspiracist allegations
>> >>> sometimes act on those irrational beliefs, and this has concrete
>> >>> consequences in the real world."
>> >>>
>> >>> Loughner was caught up in the sort of conspiratorial fantasy Berlet
>> >>> was describing. His YouTube videos are often unintelligible, but in
>> >>> their moments of lucidity, they rail against manipulation of the
>> >>> currency system and the illegitimate power of the federal government,
>> >>> obsessions of the right-wing populist milieu. In this milieu,
>> >>> politicians like Gabrielle Giffords weren't simply wrong, they were
>> >>> agents of an intolerable tyranny manipulating the economy and turning
>> >>> Americans into slaves. Hence the vitriol and intimations of violence
>> >>> that scared Giffords and her staff well before Saturday's shooting.
>> >>>
>> >>> The point, again, is not that Alex Jones, Zeitgeist, or The Tea Party
>> >>> are responsible for Loughner's crimes. The point is that he targeted
>> >>> Giffords for a reason, one rooted in his unhinged interpretation of
>> >>> recognizable conspiracy theories. Right-wing activists and politicians
>> >>> have traded on such theories, giving them far more mainstream exposure
>> >>> and credibility than they ever had before. Experts on political
>> >>> violence have been arguing for months that this is extremely
>> >>> dangerous. People like Loughner are the reason why.
>> >>>
>> >>> To read it all:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-01-13/zeitgeist-the-documentary-that-may-have-shaped-jared-loughners-worldview/
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
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>> >>> Have a great day,
>> >>> Tommy
>> >>>
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