Monday, January 10, 2011

Re: GAY RIGHTS

The 1,138 Benefits and Protections of Marriage
Direct link:
http://www.gao.gov/atext/d04353r.txt

On 1/9/11, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
> Markie Mark-
>
> Here is your homework assignment.
>
> Read thes 1,138 Federal Statutes about Civil Marriage Rights which are
> denied to same gender couples, and then report back tell me why you
> were wrong 1,138 times.
>
> The 1,138 Benefits and Protections of Marriage
> Click Here:
> http://www.ralliance.org/1138.html
>
> On 1/9/11, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Markie Mark-
>>
>> Wrong again. There are over 1,300 codified laws and privleges directly
>> concerning civil marriage and marriage contracts. Those laws concern
>> the ACT and contract, and NOT the "one word" as you falsely claim.
>>
>> On 1/9/11, Mark <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Tommy, tommy , tooooooommmmmmmyyyyyy,
>>>
>>> Government has NOT codified "Marriage" as you are using it. They have
>>> simply
>>> defined the word "marriage" (not the act of being "joined" legally,
>>> civilly
>>> or religiously.
>>>
>>> Read the statute... it is all about the definition of ONE word... NOT
>>> the
>>> act.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wrong again, Keithie Keith Keith.
>>>>
>>>> I suggest you take a good look at the 14th Amendment again, and at the
>>>> recent court rulings on DOMA and Prop 8, and you will see that you are
>>>> incorrect.
>>>>
>>>> Civil marriage is not Religious marriage, and I suggest you get that
>>>> simple concept through your thick offensive anti-gay animus filled
>>>> homophobic skull.
>>>>
>>>> As long as the government codifies civil marriage, all citizens must
>>>> be included in those laws equally regardless of gender. Anything less
>>>> is unconstitutional, discriminatory, and unjust. Churches are then
>>>> free to bless those civil marriages or not as they choose. There are
>>>> plenty of Progressive churches that will.
>>>>
>>>> You are repeating your false Reich wing spin, Lil' Keithie Keith.
>>>>
>>>> On 1/8/11, Keith In Köln <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > DOMA is very much Constitutional, This is where folks try and
>>>> > redefine
>>>> the
>>>> > term and concept of marriage, which is a ecclisastical function. Tom
>>>> > and
>>>> > most militant Gays who wish to force their lifestyle down Americans'
>>>> > proverbial throats, (Note how Tom defined and described the term
>>>> > "Gay"
>>>> > above, yet a few days ago was attempting to claim that the term,
>>>> > "Gay"
>>>> had
>>>> > nothing at all to do with sexuality) want to redefine the term and
>>>> concept
>>>> > of marriage, in order to force their secularist beliefs upon the
>>>> > American
>>>> > public.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:27 AM, GregfromBoston
>>>> > <greg.vincent@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Tell the president. I did
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Jan 7, 9:22 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> > Yes, Greg.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I believe that DOMA is indeed unconstitutuional.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On 1/7/11, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > > Well Tom, you just echoed the court on why DOMA is
>>>> >> > > unconstitutional.
>>>> >> > > It IS.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > > On Jan 7, 8:22 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> > >> Markie Mark-
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > >> Your statements are naive and you are clearly uneducated.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > >> At the time the Constitution was written in the late 18th
>>>> >> > >> Century,
>>>> >> "gay"
>>>> >> > >> simply meant festive, happy, or beautiful, and the term had
>>>> >> > >> nothing
>>>> >> > >> to
>>>> >> do
>>>> >> > >> with sexuality whatsoever. Since the term did not refer to
>>>> >> same-gendered
>>>> >> > >> "friendship", which was the term used for same gender
>>>> >> > >> relationships
>>>> >> > >> at
>>>> >> > >> that
>>>> >> > >> time, the term "gay" does not exist in the Constitution at all,
>>>> >> > >> as
>>>> >> > >> the
>>>> >> > >> term
>>>> >> > >> as we now use it did not exist. In fact, in the 1780's, Sex was
>>>> >> > >> rarely
>>>> >> > >> ever
>>>> >> > >> discussed or mentioned at all outside of close private
>>>> >> > >> encounters
>>>> >> between
>>>> >> > >> "friends" and couples behind closed doors. The Constitution
>>>> >> > >> does,
>>>> >> however,
>>>> >> > >> state in the 14th amendment that discrimination against any
>>>> >> > >> citizen
>>>> >> > >> is
>>>> >> > >> unlawful: " All persons born or naturalized in the United
>>>> >> > >> States,
>>>> and
>>>> >> > >> subject to the jurisdiction <glossary.html#JURIS> thereof, are
>>>> >> citizens of
>>>> >> > >> the United States and of the State wherein they reside.( No )
>>>> >> > >> State
>>>> >> shall
>>>> >> > >> make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or
>>>> >> immunities
>>>> >> > >> of
>>>> >> > >> citizens of the United States; nor shall any State
>>>> >> > >> deprive<glossary.html#DEPRIVE>any person of life, liberty, or
>>>> >> > >> property, without due
>>>> >> > >> process <consttop_duep.html> of law; nor deny to any person
>>>> >> > >> within
>>>> >> > >> its
>>>> >> > >> jurisdiction <glossary.html#JURIS> the equal protection of the
>>>> laws."
>>>> >> > >> Therefore, the current unequal second calss citizen status of
>>>> >> > >> gays
>>>> in
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> > >> United States is unlawful, unconstitutional, and
>>>> >> > >> discriminatory.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > >> So there you have it, Markie. I hope that this lesson in
>>>> >> > >> etymology
>>>> >> > >> and
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> > >> Constitution enlightens you somewhat.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:58 AM, THE ANNOINTED ONE
>>>> >> > >> <markmka...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > >> > Tommy,
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > >> > Please list all rights as enumerated in the Constitution that
>>>> Gays
>>>> >> > >> > (etc) do not have.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > >> > You constantly harp about "RIGHTS" .... You never list them.
>>>> >> > >> > Just
>>>> >> what
>>>> >> > >> > are those "Rights" that you feel are absent in your life that
>>>> >> > >> > others
>>>> >> > >> > have.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > >> > Please DO NOT list "Privileges" or "Licenses" that can only
>>>> >> > >> > be
>>>> >> granted
>>>> >> > >> > on a State level.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > >> > ONLY "Rights" are meant to be universal... The different
>>>> >> "privileges"
>>>> >> > >> > and "licenses" that are left to the "Several States" are not
>>>> >> > >> > now
>>>> >> nor
>>>> >> > >> > were they ever meant to be, "Rights".
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > >> > Each State is in itself "Sovereign" with local rules being
>>>> >> > >> > that
>>>> >> which
>>>> >> > >> > makes a State attractive to one and repulsive to another. (I
>>>> would
>>>> >> > >> > NEVER live in Texas)
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > >> > Traffic laws, Domestic violence laws, noise laws, land use
>>>> >> > >> > laws,
>>>> >> > >> > marriage/divorce laws, and even the death penalty laws ALL
>>>> >> > >> > vary
>>>> >> > >> > from
>>>> >> > >> > State to State because the "Several States" have the "Right"
>>>> >> > >> > to
>>>> >> > >> > make
>>>> >> > >> > it so. They must bow to to will of the people in that State
>>>> >> > >> > as
>>>> long
>>>> >> as
>>>> >> > >> > it does not interfere with one of the Federally Guaranteed
>>>> >> > >> > and
>>>> >> > >> > Constitutionally enumerated "Rights".
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > >> > Just which of your Constitutionally Guaranteed and Enumerated
>>>> >> "Rights"
>>>> >> > >> > are you lacking ??
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > >> > I'll wait for the list and your personal explanation for
>>>> >> > >> > each.
>>>> Then
>>>> >> we
>>>> >> > >> > can discuss it.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > >> > I am anxiously awaiting your well thought-out and accurate
>>>> >> (remember,
>>>> >> > >> > Constitutionally Enumerated "Right") list to begin an earnest
>>>> >> > >> > discussion.
>>>> >> >
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>>>> >> > >> Have a great day,
>>>> >> > >> Tommy- Hide quoted text -
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>>>> >> > >> - Show quoted text -
>>>> >> >
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>>>> Have a great day,
>>>> Tommy
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>> Have a great day,
>> Tommy
>>
>
>
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> Have a great day,
> Tommy
>


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