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The courts say otherwise.
But tell you what. If DOMA is constitutional, then why isn't the
Massachusetts law unconstitutional?
On Jan 8, 11:55 am, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> DOMA is very much Constitutional, This is where folks try and redefine the
> term and concept of marriage, which is a ecclisastical function. Tom and
> most militant Gays who wish to force their lifestyle down Americans'
> proverbial throats, (Note how Tom defined and described the term "Gay"
> above, yet a few days ago was attempting to claim that the term, "Gay" had
> nothing at all to do with sexuality) want to redefine the term and concept
> of marriage, in order to force their secularist beliefs upon the American
> public.
>
> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:27 AM, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Tell the president. I did
>
> > On Jan 7, 9:22 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Yes, Greg.
>
> > > I believe that DOMA is indeed unconstitutuional.
>
> > > On 1/7/11, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Well Tom, you just echoed the court on why DOMA is unconstitutional.
> > > > It IS.
>
> > > > On Jan 7, 8:22 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> Markie Mark-
>
> > > >> Your statements are naive and you are clearly uneducated.
>
> > > >> At the time the Constitution was written in the late 18th Century,
> > "gay"
> > > >> simply meant festive, happy, or beautiful, and the term had nothing to
> > do
> > > >> with sexuality whatsoever. Since the term did not refer to
> > same-gendered
> > > >> "friendship", which was the term used for same gender relationships at
> > > >> that
> > > >> time, the term "gay" does not exist in the Constitution at all, as the
> > > >> term
> > > >> as we now use it did not exist. In fact, in the 1780's, Sex was rarely
> > > >> ever
> > > >> discussed or mentioned at all outside of close private encounters
> > between
> > > >> "friends" and couples behind closed doors. The Constitution does,
> > however,
> > > >> state in the 14th amendment that discrimination against any citizen is
> > > >> unlawful: " All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and
> > > >> subject to the jurisdiction <glossary.html#JURIS> thereof, are
> > citizens of
> > > >> the United States and of the State wherein they reside.( No ) State
> > shall
> > > >> make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or
> > immunities
> > > >> of
> > > >> citizens of the United States; nor shall any State
> > > >> deprive<glossary.html#DEPRIVE>any person of life, liberty, or
> > > >> property, without due
> > > >> process <consttop_duep.html> of law; nor deny to any person within its
> > > >> jurisdiction <glossary.html#JURIS> the equal protection of the laws."
> > > >> Therefore, the current unequal second calss citizen status of gays in
> > the
> > > >> United States is unlawful, unconstitutional, and discriminatory.
>
> > > >> So there you have it, Markie. I hope that this lesson in etymology and
> > the
> > > >> Constitution enlightens you somewhat.
>
> > > >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:58 AM, THE ANNOINTED ONE
> > > >> <markmka...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > >> > Tommy,
>
> > > >> > Please list all rights as enumerated in the Constitution that Gays
> > > >> > (etc) do not have.
>
> > > >> > You constantly harp about "RIGHTS" .... You never list them. Just
> > what
> > > >> > are those "Rights" that you feel are absent in your life that others
> > > >> > have.
>
> > > >> > Please DO NOT list "Privileges" or "Licenses" that can only be
> > granted
> > > >> > on a State level.
>
> > > >> > ONLY "Rights" are meant to be universal... The different
> > "privileges"
> > > >> > and "licenses" that are left to the "Several States" are not now
> > nor
> > > >> > were they ever meant to be, "Rights".
>
> > > >> > Each State is in itself "Sovereign" with local rules being that
> > which
> > > >> > makes a State attractive to one and repulsive to another. (I would
> > > >> > NEVER live in Texas)
>
> > > >> > Traffic laws, Domestic violence laws, noise laws, land use laws,
> > > >> > marriage/divorce laws, and even the death penalty laws ALL vary from
> > > >> > State to State because the "Several States" have the "Right" to make
> > > >> > it so. They must bow to to will of the people in that State as long
> > as
> > > >> > it does not interfere with one of the Federally Guaranteed and
> > > >> > Constitutionally enumerated "Rights".
>
> > > >> > Just which of your Constitutionally Guaranteed and Enumerated
> > "Rights"
> > > >> > are you lacking ??
>
> > > >> > I'll wait for the list and your personal explanation for each. Then
> > we
> > > >> > can discuss it.
>
> > > >> > I am anxiously awaiting your well thought-out and accurate
> > (remember,
> > > >> > Constitutionally Enumerated "Right") list to begin an earnest
> > > >> > discussion.
>
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> > > >> Have a great day,
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