President Clinton agreed to the compromise, brokered by Colin Powell
whio sent me a letter abourt it at that time. Clinton later said DADT
was a mistake, as the discriminatory policy failed.
President Obama, who now wears a flag pin, and has since the campaign,
is not a Muslim, and even if he were, there would be nothing wrong
with that.
You are clearly an un-American Islamophobic believer of false Reich
wing GOP smear and hate.
On 12/11/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tommy,
> DADT was made by executive order and can only be killed by executive
> order or the courts. It has been killed, Obama is fighting it.... Why
> would he do that ?? Only one reason I can think of... Muslim grade
> school, Muslim dads (both), bows to muslim leaders, Recites the Koran,
> doesa not wear US Flag lapel, does not salute the US flag, was a
> member of Reverend Wrights "christian" church where he admits half the
> members are indeed moslim....
>
> Add all the above FACTS to the way Muslims feel about Gays and tell me
> why he would SUE to keep DADT active when all it takes to end it is
> HIS signature... NO VOTE NEEDED.
>
> On Dec 11, 11:36 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well I disagree with part of that.
>>
>> President Obama wants DADT and DOMA repealed, but he wants the
>> legislature to do it. He has said "Send me a bill".
>>
>> The Department Of Justice is obliged to uphold existing laws, even
>> those the Administration disagrees with.
>>
>> On 12/11/10, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Thats neither my job nor perogative.
>>
>> > We OBVIOUSLY disagree ideologically/philisophically/any ogically.
>>
>> > THATS the reason I come here. If i want people to agree with me, I go
>> > to FreeReblica, and I don't
>>
>> > We have had sprirted debates for sure, but I don't we've ended up in
>> > blind insults
>>
>> > (If I have, I'm sorry - If you have so should be you)
>>
>> > Here it is, ok?
>>
>> > Congress has proven INCREDIBLY inept at getting rid of DADT. Blame
>> > GOP or Dems, I don't care! The judicial branch HAS killed it, and if
>> > not for a DOJ challenge, it would be 3 months dead - end of story,
>> > Fuck congress, lets move on.
>>
>> > Its a kiss. A gift. STOP! Politics is over. The Judicial Branch
>> > ruled it UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
>>
>> > It don't get more binding than that. WTF happens if Obama takes this
>> > to SCOTUS, and the CONSERVATIVES uphold Virginia Philips' ruling.
>>
>> > We're talking more egg on faces than Omelettes for America, (Europe,
>> > Asia, Africa...)
>>
>> > Why challenge a case you believe is RIGHT???
>>
>> > As PROVEN, no, there is NO obligation to do so. Judicial checks are
>> > equal to the other 2.
>>
>> > Oh, and I thing DOMA is WORSE!
>>
>> > And yet here is Obama fighting for THAT too!
>>
>> > Point: Gay rights being left v right is BULLSHIT! Look at the LEFT!
>>
>> > God bless, mate, and keep up the banter.
>>
>> > On Dec 11, 10:45 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Thank you Greg.
>> >> You are more Progressive than I had realized.
>> >> Perhaps you can teach Keith and others a thing or two.
>>
>> >> On 12/11/10, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > Get ready Tommy. . .
>>
>> >> > I couldn't agree more!
>>
>> >> > Please realize that I am adamently against both DADT and DOMA.
>>
>> >> > I am simply saying that neither POTUS, nor anyone else needs congress
>> >> > to end DADT (and the ban). The judicial branch has already done it.
>>
>> >> > 3 equal branches. This is the judicial check. Roll with it!
>>
>> >> > Probably the musician in me (and there's a lot of that in me)
>>
>> >> > On Dec 11, 10:27 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Tiny Keithie Keith Keithie-
>>
>> >> >> You have a dirty, offensive mind.
>> >> >> You are Wrong again, again, and yet again.
>>
>> >> >> I do not have hate, lies and smear as you falsely and slanderously
>> >> >> state and insult me over and over and over again.
>>
>> >> >> This explanation put forth demonstrates your misguided
>> >> >> misconceptions
>> >> >> and your blatant homophobia even further. Your thinking is not at
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> cognitive, it is deeply prejudiced.
>>
>> >> >> Most gays do not put their sexuality at the forefront of their
>> >> >> lives.
>> >> >> In fact, most choose to hide and surpress their sexuality, and their
>> >> >> very essense, due to homophobia, opression, and persecution. While
>> >> >> heterosexuals go around talking about their romantic encounters,
>> >> >> relationsips, and crushes etc, ad nauseum.
>>
>> >> >> Many gays are chaste and even celebate, and most certainly do NOT
>> >> >> flaunt their sexuality or dress in a flamboyant manner. Many look
>> >> >> more
>> >> >> ordinary and conservative than most heterosexuals. There are a few,
>> >> >> but there are many heterosexuals who have flamboyant deress and
>> >> >> behavior, and unusual sexualities and kinkly fetishes. Pinning those
>> >> >> behaviors soley on a few gays is unfair and false.
>>
>> >> >> Your mischaracterizations, stereotyping, typecasting, and mind in
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> gutter demonstrates your deep prejudice and homophobia.
>> >> >> You, Keith, are a judgemental prejudiced homophobic bigot.
>>
>> >> >> Yes, you are.
>>
>> >> >> On 12/10/10, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > Lil' TommyTomTom,
>>
>> >> >> > This is where your hate, lies and smear get in the way of your
>> >> >> > cognitive
>> >> >> > thinking.
>>
>> >> >> > Because I am opposed to those individuals who put what they do in
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > bedroom at the forefront of their lives; in other words, because
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > am
>> >> >> > opposed to those individuals that define their very existence by
>> >> >> > their
>> >> >> > sexuality, this does not make me a "Homophobe".
>>
>> >> >> > What you do behind closed doors might be wonderful. I don't know.
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > will
>> >> >> > never know. I don't care what it is that you do sexually.
>>
>> >> >> > I am opposed to those militants who are attempting to force their
>> >> >> > sexuality
>> >> >> > upon me, and the rest of America. I am opposed to parades in
>> >> >> > front
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > children with you donned in assless chaps, boas, and/or dressed as
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > Statute of Liberty. I am opposed to you, and any other group or
>> >> >> > entity
>> >> >> > demanding more rights than what the rest of Americans enjoy,
>> >> >> > because
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > who
>> >> >> > you sleep with.
>>
>> >> >> > You are correct, that there have been Gays in our United States
>> >> >> > military
>> >> >> > since 1776. None of them chose to get out and parade around,
>> >> >> > announcing
>> >> >> > who it is that they are boffing or honking on. This is how it
>> >> >> > should
>> >> >> > be.
>>
>> >> >> > KeithInDC
>>
>> >> >> > On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Tommy News
>> >> >> > <tommysn...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> Wrong again Keith.
>>
>> >> >> >> Your homophobia is showing.
>>
>> >> >> >> Gays have been serving in the military, well, since before
>> >> >> >> Alexander
>> >> >> >> The Great and his lover Hephaesteon.
>>
>> >> >> >> The existing military code of conduct shoold be adequate for any
>> >> >> >> behavior issues from a very few.
>>
>> >> >> >> By your logic, heterosexuals should be banned from the military
>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> well due to criminals like Dubya, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, variuus
>> >> >> >> felons, etc.
>>
>> >> >> >> Please also note that Military Enlistment of Felons Doubled under
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> Bush Administration.
>>
>> >> >> >>http://www.palmcenter.org/press/dadt/releases/military_enlistment_of_...
>>
>> >> >> >> Top Ten American War
>> >> >> >> Criminals Living
>> >> >> >> Freely Today
>>
>> >> >> >> Rense Exclusive
>> >> >> >> By Douglas Herman
>> >> >> >> 12-14-5
>>
>> >> >> >> A war crime is a punishable offense, under international law, for
>> >> >> >> violations of the law of war by any person or persons, military
>> >> >> >> or
>> >> >> >> civilian. Every violation of the law of war is a war crime. Also,
>> >> >> >> war
>> >> >> >> crimes are those committed during wartime in violation of
>> >> >> >> international conventions intended to protect civilian
>> >> >> >> populations
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> prisoners of war. You will note that many on this list,
>> >> >> >> categorized
>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> war criminals, ironically, are among the most powerful and
>> >> >> >> wealthy
>> >> >> >> US
>> >> >> >> citizens
>>
>> >> >> >> Robert McNamara. Former US Secretary of Defense, helped kill
>> >> >> >> approximately 2-3 million, mostly poor Vietnamese, Cambodians and
>> >> >> >> Laotians. Not to mention a sizeable portion of the 58,000 dead US
>> >> >> >> servicemen pressed into that war. Not to mention that equal
>> >> >> >> number
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> US veterans who committed suicide in the years to follow.
>> >> >> >> McNamara
>> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> an Elder Statesman now, walking around freely today.
>>
>> >> >> >> Henry Kissinger. Former US Secretary of State, had a hand in the
>> >> >> >> killings mentioned above. Plus condoned thousands of additional
>> >> >> >> killings in Chile, under the sponsorship of US foreign policy.
>> >> >> >> Won
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts. Elder Statesman, walking
>> >> >> >> around
>> >> >> >> freely today.
>>
>> >> >> >> George HW Bush. Former super spy, former US President, the first
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> graduate from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) into the
>> >> >> >> presidency and bring lessons learned at CIA headquarters directly
>> >> >> >> into
>> >> >> >> US policy. While serving under Ronald Reagan, helped encourage
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> Iraq-Iran war, resulting in deaths of one million people,
>> >> >> >> allowing
>> >> >> >> US
>> >> >> >> oil and arms dealers to profit greatly. During the 'Eighties,
>> >> >> >> helped
>> >> >> >> encourage US sponsored military dictators in Latin America,
>> >> >> >> guilty
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> extermination of thousands of ordinary citizens, via US-trained
>> >> >> >> "death
>> >> >> >> squads." Conducted pre-emptive war with Panama, resulting in
>> >> >> >> 1,000-4,000 deaths, simply to topple former CIA henchman and drug
>> >> >> >> lord, Manuel Noriega. Elder Statesman, walking around freely
>> >> >> >> today,
>> >> >> >> basking in limelight.
>>
>> >> >> >> George W. Bush. Two term US president, elected using electronic,
>> >> >> >> "black box" voting methods that permit no verification of actual
>> >> >> >> vote
>> >> >> >> count. Conducted two pre-emptive wars, resulting in excess of
>> >> >> >> 100,000
>> >> >> >> US. Iraqi and Afghani deaths. Condones the use of torture as US
>> >> >> >> policy. Condones rejection of the Geneva Convention, becoming the
>> >> >> >> first US president to openly do so. Considers the US Constitution
>> >> >> >> "A
>> >> >> >> Goddamned piece of paper." Embattled Statesman, walking around
>> >> >> >> freely
>> >> >> >> today.
>>
>> >> >> >> Dick Cheney. Former US Secretary of Defense, and signator of the
>> >> >> >> PNAC,
>> >> >> >> and current Vice President. Accused mastermind of the 911
>> >> >> >> "terrorist"
>> >> >> >> attack against the US (unproven), Cheney has been called "The
>> >> >> >> Vice
>> >> >> >> President For Torture" by the Washington Post. A staunch
>> >> >> >> supporter
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> the Middle Eastern War Without End, Cheney, like Wolfowitz and
>> >> >> >> Rumsfeld bears particular responsibility for the conduct of the
>> >> >> >> war.
>> >> >> >> Elder Statesman, walking around freely today.
>>
>> >> >> >> 8. Paul Wolfowitz. Former US Deputy Secretary of Defense and
>> >> >> >> architect
>> >> >> >> of the Middle Eastern War Without End. Casualties in two
>> >> >> >> pre-emptive
>> >> >> >> wars now exceed 100,000 deaths, not including the estimated
>> >> >> >> 2,000+
>>
>> ...
>>
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