falsely, over and over again? You should know better than to swing
that false smear bully club.
On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Another buzz word from the Pelosi/Reid/Obama camp: "Fair"; as in, I think
> we should change the regulation because it is fair, not because I think it
> will help the economy".
>
> Yes, Tom, I have a BA in political science. I am not naive, and I am quite
> aware of what the terms Marxist, Socialist, and Capitalist means, as well
> as the teachings of Trotsky, Engels, Mao, and a host of other "Fair Minded
> Collectivists".....
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Jonathan Ashley <
> jonathanashleyii@lavabit.com> wrote:
>
>> Why are you dodging the question, Tommy?
>>
>> You are subscribed to a political forum. How is asking which of two
>> systems
>> of government you think we should follow being silly?
>>
>> The fact that you understand it is a baited question leads me to believe
>> you know you are a socialist. You're just afraid to admit it.
>>
>> Or, perhaps - since you push all the collectivism crap on us - you prefer
>> being called a collectivist.
>>
>> *Collectivist*, n. An advocate of collectivism. -- a. Relating to, or
>> characteristic of, collectivism.*
>> *
>>
>> *Collectivism*, n. The doctrine that land and capital should be owned by
>> society collectively or as a whole; communism.
>>
>>
>> On 10/20/2010 10:07 AM, Tommy News wrote:
>>
>> Why would you even ask such a silly, baited, and officiously offensive
>> question?
>>
>> I am not a Marxist, Socialist, or Communist.
>>
>> Centrist Liberals, Democrats, and President Obama are not either.
>>
>> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashleyii@lavabit.com>
>> <jonathanashleyii@lavabit.com> wrote:
>>
>> Should have read:
>>
>> Tommy,
>>
>> Which one of the following systems of government do you believe we
>> should follow?
>>
>> 1. A system in which the means of production and distribution are
>> privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to
>> the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.
>>
>> 2. A system of social organization in which the means of producing
>> and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized
>> government that often plans and controls the economy.
>>
>>
>> On 10/20/2010 9:36 AM, Tommy News wrote:
>>
>> It appears that you do not know what Marxism is, Keith, as you
>> continually and falsely call Democrats, Centrist liberals,
>> Progressives, and President Obama Marxists, which they are not.
>>
>> That is why I sent this piece, to enlighten you, if that is possible.
>>
>> Liberals and Democrats are NOT Marxists, Socialists, or Communists.
>> Using these false slurs over and over again is offensive and repetitive.
>>
>> I believe that those who slander and disrespect the President are
>> anti-American.
>>
>> On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa<keithintampa@gmail.com>
>> <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Those who don't comprehend or understand what Marxism, Socialism,
>> Capitalism, etc., mean, and somehow believe that it is "hate speech" by
>> calling an individual a "Socialist"; because he advocates a socialistic
>> political and economic system over a capitalistic, free market economy,
>> are
>> ignorant.
>>
>> I don't mean to say that they are stupid....Far from it. Actually, I
>> have a
>> lot of respect for these that are ignorant, or Anti-American. They are
>> dangerous to our Nation. I have come to the conclusion that these
>> folks
>> fall into one of two categories:
>>
>> (A) *e.g.;* Most of them are ill informed and not well read. They
>> don't
>> keep up with current events, other than to watch liberal, biased
>> mainstream
>> media, or read and follow far left slanted web sites, never taking the
>> time
>> to comprehend why or how any specific situation or came to be, or the
>> root
>> cause, genesis or motivation of any particular issue. They tend to
>> believe
>> that they are the only ones that are compassionate, failing to realize
>> that
>> it is statistically proven in fact, that those who are conservative
>> contribute far more money& resources to charitable causes. Further,
>> (and
>> just as important!) these same individuals don't have a lot of knowledge
>> of
>> our history; they fail to understand or comprehend the principals and
>> tenets
>> that made the United States the greatest Nation-State in the World, bar
>> none. In general, these people reject the notion that our founding
>> fathers
>> were influenced by Christian principals and tenets, but they do
>> understand
>> enough history that they would very much like to revise this one
>> important
>> aspect. Thus their lack of understanding and reasoning; or,
>>
>> (B) They are literally Anti-Americans, and they want to see the United
>> States become equal to or consistent with a third world or fourth world
>> Nation-State.
>>
>> There is literally no other option.
>>
>> The point being, is that ALL of these folks are hypocritical, and filled
>> with hate. When confronted with truth, logic, or just basic facts, all
>> they
>> can resort to is slinging out hate filled smear, and the typical far
>> left,
>> Socialist-Elitist talking points that have been generated by the George
>> Soros' funded foundations, media organizations and social networks.
>> All
>> they can do, is attack the messenger.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Tommy News<tommysnews@gmail.com>
>> <tommysnews@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> Thiose who use words as clubs are misguided bullies.
>>
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