On Oct 16, 4:09 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> We have Federal Election Laws (which are unconstitutional) so that
> the Republicans and Democrats can retain their positions.
>
> Block "Citizens" from voting?
>
> Regard$,
> --MJ
>
> "Freedom for supporters of the government only, for members of one
> party only no matter how big its membership may be is no freedom at
> all. Freedom is always freedom for the man who thinks differently."
> --Rosa Luxemburg
>
> At 03:58 PM 10/16/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>
> >we have federal election laws so that the states can not block
> >citizens from voting
>
> >On Oct 16, 3:26 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I had NO idea that there exists (or ever did) a federal election. They
> > > are entirely the purview of the individual states. If and when there
> > > is a federal election then the feds have a right to make or enforce
> > > election law.
>
> > > On Oct 16, 10:47 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > > > You have several things working against you.
> > > > Not only does Amendment I apply (Congress shall make no law ...
> > free speech),
> > > > there is no Power provided the Congress within the Constitution
> > to 'regulate' or
> > > > 'restrict' or otherwise 'campaigns'.
> > > > Money is most certainly speech -- whether it consists of
> > 'hiring' someone to
> > > > best spread your message OR the measure for the success of a business or
> > > > enterprise.
> > > > Regard$,
> > > > --MJYou should see what the law professors on the H-LAW mailing
> > list are saying about yesterday's Supreme Court First Amendment
> > decision. Allowing people to purchase political ads and make
> > political films without government regulation is, it seems, the end
> > of the world. -- Kevin Gutzman on Citizens United v. Federal
> > Election CommissionAt 12:41 PM 10/16/2010, you wrote:This is a
> > close call.... mike.....Freedom of Speech is Freedom of
> > > > Speech..... but, like I said elsewhere... political donations...
> > > > money... is not speech (in my opinion). I would think that, as long as
> > > > the "person" doing the speech is an "individual" then the money end
> > > > (advertising access costs) associated with his/her political speech
> > > > need not be disclosed... but when the "individual" becomes a
> > > > "political advocacy group" of any sort, then where the money comes
> > > > from should be disclosed...But, of course, there's a Criminally
> > > > Crooked Supreme Court Majority to contend
> > with.....currently.http://van-ezproxy.vancouver.wsu.edu/pag/index.html
> > > > U.S. Chamber of Commercehttp://www.uschamber.org
> > > > E-Mail: mbrs...@uschamber.org
> > > > 1615 H St. NW
> > > > Washington, DC 20062-2000
> > > > Phone: 202-659-6000, 800-638-6582
> > > > Fax: 202-463-3190 "We protect and represent you so your business can
> > > > grow and prosper in a free market economy."
> > > > (http://www.uschamber.org)
> > > > Then there's Karl
> > Rove...http://prairieweather.typepad.com/big_blue_stem/2010/10/suing-one-of-...
> > > > On Oct 16, 10:41 am, "mike [ proud to be a liberal ] 532 !"
> > > > <littlemike...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > the court has opened the door for other governments to chose our
> > > > > leaders .
>
> > > > > On Oct 16, 10:37 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > That s what Republican campaign fund-raising groups are doing by
> > > > > > concealing their donors from the public.
> > > > > > ROTFLMAO!
> > > > > > Individuals, of course, have a right to privacy.
> > > > > > BOTH Republicans AND Democrats fo not trust Americans, but
> > > > > > it is with their lives (of course they are Peddling Pull to maintain
> > > > > > their Power).
> > > > > > Regard$,
> > > > > > --MJYou should see what the law professors on the H-LAW
> > mailing list are saying about yesterday's Supreme Court First
> > Amendment decision. Allowing people to purchase political ads and
> > make political films without government regulation is, it seems,
> > the end of the world. -- Kevin Gutzman on Citizens United v.
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