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Meet The Mayor Of New Planet ‘Stupider’-Pelosi

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Meet The Mayor Of New Planet 'Stupider'-Pelosi

by Terry

How is this repulsive, insane , putty-faced, gone over-the-edge, blatant liar, still in office ?

Oh that's right. She's a democrap ! I can't believe that even SHE believes the crap that comes out of her own mouth.

This statement was so alarmingly absurd, it would almost be funny. Except the 'Sheeple' will swallow every word.

~Terry

Pelosi: Republicans Are Going After Holder As 'Part of a Nationwide Scheme to Suppress the Vote'

By Edwin Mora

June 22, 2012

'Mayor' of Planet Stupider

(CNSNews.com) - House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) told reporters Thursday that Republicans plan to hold U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress because they want to "suppress the vote."

"What we have seen is the shameful display of abusive power by the Republicans in the House of Representatives. Instead of bringing job-creating legislation to the floor, the transportation bill, they are holding the attorney general of the United States in contempt of Congress for doing his job," she said.
"It's really important to note how this is connected with some of their other decisions. It is not an accident. It is no coincidence that the attorney general of the United States is the person responsible for making sure that voter suppression does not happen in our country…These very same people who are holding into contempt [the attorney general] are part of a nationwide scheme to suppress the vote," Pelosi said. "They're closely allied with those who are suffocating the system, unlimited special interest secret money and they are poisoning the debate."

"They're going after Eric Holder because he is supporting measures to overturn these voter suppression initiatives in the states," she later added.

Holder says requiring voters to present identification at the polling place suppresses the minority vote, and he is suing Texas and South Carolina over their voter ID laws.

Pelosi, defending the Obama administration, said she knows it "made every attempt to make every document available" to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. The committee has voted to hold the attorney general in contempt of Congress for refusing to comply with congressional subpoenas related to Operation Fast and Furious, an administration initiative that allowed two thousand guns to fall into the hands of Mexican drug cartels and may have led to the death of a U.S. Border Patrol Agent.

Pelosi called it frivolous to invoke contempt of Congress. "To frivolously use that really important vehicle to undermine the person who is assigned to stop the voter suppression in our country -- I'm telling you this is connected. It is no accident. It is a decision and it is as clear as can be. Not only to monopolize his time. It's to undermine his name. Undermine his name as he goes forward to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States."

Responding to Pelosi's remarks, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said, "The American people deserve the truth on what happened in Fast and Furious."

A spokesman for Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) chairman of the oversight committee, criticized Pelosi for her comments. "For minority leader Pelosi to dismiss this tragedy and say the investigation is really about voter suppression is offensive and wrong," said the spokesman, Frederick R. Hill.

Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh said he "never dreamed" that Democrats would come up with such a stupid explanation for President Obama invoking executive privilege to deny Congress the documents it wants Holder to turn over:

"We need a new planet. We need a new planet called Stupider, and I need to put Nancy Pelosi on it as the mayor of the whole planet, as the governor, as the evil emperor, whatever," Limbaugh told his listeners."I knew yesterday that it would take a while for these people to come up with an explanation, 'Well, it's common. Well, every president does it (invokes executive privilege). Well, this is just a witch hunt.'
"But I never dreamed, because I can't think this stupidly, I never dreamed that the official Democrat Party response would be that the Republicans intend to cheat in the election and Holder was gonna stop 'em, and so Holder has to be stopped because he was gonna stop the cheating. That's what the mayor of the new planet Stupider, Nancy Pelosi, said this morning in Washington, D.C. The very same people holding Holder in contempt are part of a nationwide scheme to suppress the vote."

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/pelosi-republicans-are-going-after-holder-part-nationwide-scheme-suppress-vote

You can also watch S.C Rep. Trey Gowdy on Greta van Sustern's show, calling Pelosi " Mind numbingly stupid", for her remarks:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/rep-gowdy-has-a-message-for-nancy-pelosi-and-her-voter-suppression-claims-mind-numbingly-stupid/

Terry | June 23, 2012 at 2:36 am | Tags: Barack Obama, Democrats, Fast & Furious, Left, Nancy Pelosi, Obama administration, White House | Categories: 2012 Election, Congress, Conservatives, Eric Holder, Idiots, Liberals/Democrats, The Powers That Be, US Presidents | URL: http://wp.me/pKuKY-ffV

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What a War Between China and the United States Would Look Like

Any Chinese move to take over Taiwan would trigger a confrontation with the U.S. Navy and Air Force. Is the U.S. prepared to counter this growing threat?

By Erik Sofge

The mobile DF-21D can target aircraft carriers, and there are no reliable U.S. defenses against it.

August 9, 2015 - 0400 Hours

The war for Taiwan starts in the early morning. There are no naval bombardments or waves of bombers: That's how wars in the Pacific were fought 70 years ago. Instead, 1200 cruise and ballistic missiles rise from heavy vehicles on the Chinese mainland.

Taiwan's modest missile defense network—a scattered deployment of I-Hawk and Patriot interceptors—slams into dozens of incoming warheads. It's a futile gesture. The mass raid overwhelms the defenses as hundreds of Chinese warheads blast the island's military bases and airports. Taiwan's air force is grounded, and if China maintains air superiority over the Taiwan Strait, it can launch an invasion. Taiwanese troops mobilize in downtown Taipei and take up positions on the beaches facing China, just 100 miles to the west. But they know what the world knows: This is no longer Taiwan's fight. This is a battle between an old superpower and a new one. Ever since 1949, when Nationalist forces retreated to Taiwan following the Communist victory in the Chinese Civil War, Beijing has regarded the island as a renegade province of the People's Republic. Now, in 2015, only the United States can offer Taiwan protection from China's warplanes and invasion fleet.

The nearest aircraft carrier is the USS Nimitz, which had just left the Japanese port of Yokosuka on Tokyo Bay when the missiles landed on Taiwan. Although Beijing has promised to attack anyone who interferes with this "internal security operation," the U.S. president orders the Nimitz and its escorts to the Taiwan Strait. The Nimitz battle group needs at least two days for the carrier to reach the strait, more than 1300 miles southwest. The closest other carrier group, near Pearl Harbor, is six days out.

Until the Nimitz arrives, it's up to Kadena Air Base in Okinawa, 400 miles northeast of Taiwan, to defend the island. By 0515 hours, Air Force pilots are taking off in 40 F-15E fighters to conduct combat air patrols over the island. Half of them are airborne when Kadena comes under attack. First, error messages begin popping up on computer screens. Modern air defense systems share sensor information and targeting data to better coordinate their actions, but this connection is going to become a liability. An army of hackers operating throughout China swarms the base's networks, tying up communications with gibberish and cluttering the digital screens of radar operators with phony and conflicting data.

Next, early-warning satellites detect the infrared bloom of 25 ballistic missiles launched from the Chinese mainland. Five detonate in orbit, shredding American communication and imaging satellites. While not a technical first—both the U.S. and China have knocked down satellites—it's the first outbreak of a hot war in space, and it partially blinds U.S. forces.

The 20 remaining missiles re-enter the atmosphere over Okinawa. Kadena's Patriot batteries fire missiles in response, but they are off-network and in disarray—10 missiles are struck by multiple interceptors, but an equal number slip through the defensive screen and hit Kadena. Some of the GPS-guided warheads contain bomblets that crater the base's two runways. Others air-burst over the base, devastating barracks, radar arrays and hangars. Kadena is far from destroyed, but until its runways can be repaired, it is out of the fight. The F-15s on the way to Taiwan must bank for Guam, 1300 miles southeast—they have the range to reach the base there, but only Kadena is close enough to stage efficient combat patrols. Also, F-22 stealth fighters based at Hickam Air Force Base, Hawaii, now cannot land on the base's shattered runways and reinforce the F-15s. With Kadena's satellites gone, the Nimitz and its flotilla of eight escorts, including Aegis-guided missile destroyers and a pair of submarines, are steaming toward an enemy possessing one of the world's largest submarine fleets and an arsenal of land-, air- and sea-launched antiship missiles.

About 8 hours after the mass raid on Taiwan, klaxons start blaring aboard the Nimitz and her escorts. There are more missiles in the air, this time headed straight for the carrier group. The Taiwan Strait is still more than 1000 miles away, but the war has come to the Nimitz. Skimming the surface of the Pacific are four supersonic missiles flying faster than their own roar.

Chances are that a war between China and the United States will not happen in 2015, or at any other time. Under normal circumstances, a war for Taiwan would simply be too costly for either side to wage, especially given the chance of nuclear escalation. But circumstances are not always normal.

"I get criticized often for saying this, but I think Beijing is capable of acting irrationally when it comes to Taiwan," says retired Rear Adm. Eric McVadon, who served as a naval attaché in Beijing and is currently senior adviser of Asia-Pacific studies at the Institute for Foreign Policy Analysis in Cambridge, Mass. "They are obsessed with Taiwan. On some given day, it's entirely possible for people to be standing around a table in the Politburo in Beijing, and someone gets the ball rolling. And when it stops, we're at war."

The deciding factor could be anything from domestic unrest in China's increasingly rebellious rural provinces to a spike in aggressive, vocal Taiwanese nationalism. However, like many Pentagon war games, this notional conflict is not concerned with potential political triggers, but instead with evaluating China's raw military capabilities. The scenario is based on analyses by civilian think tanks including RAND Corp., Chinese defense papers and interviews with senior Pentagon officials.

The chance of war may be remote, but the Chinese strategy to deny American access to battlegrounds near China's coasts—and the hardware to pull it off—certainly exists. Since the Gulf War, the Chinese military has shifted from academic analysis of how to defeat U.S. aircraft carriers in the East China and South China seas to buying and building the weapons to make the plan a strategic reality. This is not a Cold War–era buildup, aimed at waging or deterring an apocalyptic last stand. This is a force engineered to win a limited local war—for example, keeping the United States away long enough to win Taiwan.

China's economic boom has allowed its military to rapidly expand its inventory of cruise missiles, aimed at Taiwan, and multistage ballistic missiles with enough range to hit much of Asia. The People's Liberation Army has also bought submarines—including at least 12 whisper-quiet diesel–electric models from Russia—and is developing a large fleet of warplanes.

But China's most dangerous new weapon could be an antiship ballistic missile (ASBM), specifically designed to target a moving aircraft carrier. The United States has 11 carriers. To win a future conflict, China would not have to destroy every one of them, just the pair that would be available to respond to a fight off China's coast.

Senior Pentagon leaders are becoming increasingly concerned about the Chinese arsenal. Adm. Robert Willard, head of the Navy's Pacific Command, told Congress in March that "the PLA's continued military advancements sustain a trend of shifting the cross-strait military balance in Beijing's favor." In June, in a speech at the Asia Society in Washington, D.C., Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, added that he has "moved from being curious to being genuinely concerned" about the buildup.

The man who would face the Chinese in battle, Adm. Patrick Walsh, the current commander of the U.S. Navy's Pacific Fleet, sees preparation as a way to avoid a future fight. "When we look at these sorts of developments, such as the ASBM, they are technological developments that we respect, but do not necessarily fear," Walsh says. "The key element in any sort of deterrent strategy is to make it clear to those who would use a given piece of technology that we have the means to counter it, and to maintain a technological edge."

Right now the Chinese seem to have taken the lead in this new arms race. When RAND released a report in 2000 describing the potential outcome of a Sino-American conflict over Taiwan, the United States won the war handily. Nine years later, the nonpartisan think tank revised its analysis, accounting for Beijing's updated air force, its focus on cyber warfare and its ability to use ballistic missiles to take out American satellites. RAND's new conclusion: The United States would ultimately lose an air war, and an overall conflict would be more difficult and costly than many had imagined.

The USS Nimitz is not just an American symbol. The air power delivered by an aircraft carrier, and its crew of nearly 6,000, can sway the tide of a battle--or prevent one from occurring. That's why potential foes like China are investing in weapons that could target carriers and nullify U.S. global influence.

August 9, 2015 - 1230 Hours

The Kilo-class submarines are waiting. Like any patient hunter, that's what they do best. Smaller and slower than their nuclear-powered counterparts, the 230-foot boats are fitted with diesel–electric engines and sound-absorbing tiles that make them virtually invisible to active and passive sonar. They have chosen the spot for an ambush wisely, lurking near rises in the seafloor that clutter sonar returns, and the Nimitz's escorts don't detect the Kilos.

The Chinese subs rise to launch depth and fire two missiles each from their torpedo tubes. The Russian-made weapons burst out of the water and tear directly at the carrier group.

Alarms are wailing on every ship as sailors dash to battle stations, but the Nimitz is the sole target of these Russian-built antiship cruise missiles. They are called SS-N-27B Sizzlers. When the missiles come within 10 nautical miles of the carrier, a rocket-propelled warhead separates from each and boosts into a darting, Mach 3 sprint, skimming along just 30 feet above the surface of the waves.

In the final moments, chaff launchers on the Nimitz release a volley of decoys, while a trio of robotic chain guns aboard the Nimitz—the last line of missile defense—automatically pivot toward the warheads and fire hundreds of 20-mm rounds per second. One Sizzler misses. Two more break apart under fire. The fourth detonates against the Nimitz, tearing a hole in its port side. More missiles arc across the sky as Aegis cruisers shoot antisub munitions into the ocean, tearing apart one Kilo. The other sub eventually will be hunted down by aircraft carrying sonar and torpedoes, but the damage is done.

On the Nimitz, there's no time to mourn the dead. The next attack will come soon. The crew assess the battle damage and begin repairs while the carrier presses on.

August 9, 2015 - 1921 Hours

On the southeast coast of China, more than 500 miles west of the Nimitz, an over-the-horizon radar array has picked up the carrier's position. Based on coordinates supplied by the now-sunk Kilos, the array seeks the carrier by banking radio waves off the atmosphere to peer beyond the earth's curvature. After the signals indicate the flotilla's rough location, the Chinese deploy a drone to confirm the radar fix. This 12-foot-long unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) does its job before being blown apart by an antiair missile fired by a destroyer. The Nimitz is swarmed within the hour.

A formation of fighters appears on the carrier's radar screens. Defensive missiles lift off from a picket line of escort vessels, and the Nimitz begins launching its own F/A-18s to meet the incoming aircraft, which appear to be more than a dozen outdated Jian-7s. With no satellite coverage, thanks to the antisat attack, the surprised escorts can only form a defensive ring around the carrier as the J-7s unleash a volley of antiship cruise missiles.

The U.S. escorts fire at all inbound airplanes, not knowing that the Chinese have retrofitted these older warplanes to serve as unmanned decoys. The battle group cannot trust its computer networks, given the hacking attacks on Kadena, so they must pick targets independently. The defense crews double up on some incoming fighters, wasting their defensive missiles. Radar contacts are vanishing as airplanes and incoming air-launched cruise missiles are destroyed, but one missile gets through, ripping another fiery hole in the Nimitz.

By the time F/A-18 pilots radio that no one is parachuting from the downed J-7s, the main Chinese attack force of high-performance, manned J-10 and J-11 warplanes arrives from the east. The carrier group's F/A-18s move to intercept them. But the Chinese fighters aren't here to dogfight—they launch antiship cruise missiles at the carrier and disengage.

The Aegis cruisers fire a slew of defensive missiles; F/A-18s fire antiair missiles. The sky over the Pacific is a lattice of smoke trails, and through the call and response of sonic booms there is another explosion as the Nimitz takes its third cruise missile hit of the day.

There is no lull, no time to regroup—unharmed Missile Defense Agency satellites have detected another volley of ballistic missiles fired from China. These aren't projected to hit Taiwan, Okinawa, or any other land-based target. They are tracking toward the carrier group. These are ASBMs.

The Aegis cruisers respond, launching multistage SM-3 interceptors that rise like a cluster of suns. Once in space, they deploy kill vehicles, self-guided craft designed to ram ballistic missiles. Only one connects. Four ASBMs re-enter the atmosphere and perform a swooping, high-g maneuver that allows them to scan the ocean's surface for their moving target.

So the battle for the Nimitz, and for Taiwan, ends as it began, with missiles. At 2015 hours, two ASBMs dump harmlessly into the sea, victims of technical glitches. The other two dive into the carrier, shattering the superstructure and killing hundreds. The damage doesn't reach the two nuclear reactors, but two gaping holes in the flight deck, and the carnage in the hangars below, render the ship useless. The Nimitz must retreat. If this were an all-out war, the PLA would push one last time to sink the carrier. But China's goal was never to trigger an extended, costly, bloody contest of superpowers. The goal was to deny American access to Taiwan prior to an invasion.

The following morning, Chinese troop transports cross the strait and secure the island without firing a shot. A brutal ground war was never part of the plan. Beijing calculated that without American assistance, Taipei would surrender. It also predicted an endless loop of video footage of the crippled Nimitz returning to port. There is more than one way to win a war.

China's J-10 multirole fighter is comparable to America's F-16 Fighting Falcon.

The U.S. Military shocked the world when it unveiled the sophisticated weaponry used to defeat Iraq's military in 1991. Now potential adversaries have invested in tools similar to those that made the United States military so dominant during the Gulf War. "Since the end of the Cold War, we've been in the position to unleash substantial quantities of precision firepower on our adversaries, while suffering none of that type of attack," says RAND's David Shlapak, one of the authors of the think tank's original 2000 report on a war over Taiwan as well as the followup 2009 report. "That led us to a certain style of warfare—bases that are sanctuaries, lines of communication that are indestructible."

That technological edge led to overconfidence, and Cold War skill sets, such as submarine hunting, atrophied. At the same time, the Russians sold quiet diesel–electric Kilo submarines to countries like Iran and China. When the Navy placed Rear Adm. J.J. Waickwicz in charge of the Fleet Anti-Submarine Warfare Command in 2004, he determined it would take years to re-establish sub-hunting expertise. "There was a lack of training and really good equipment to manage the problem," says Waickwicz, now retired. "We have to be willing to put the funding into synthetic and simulation training."

When it comes to missiles, China may be surpassing the United States. Earlier this year, the Pentagon said China has "the most active land-based ballistic and cruise missile program in the world." And no one else has developed an ASBM. Despite billions of dollars in research and controlled tests, the results of a clash between sophisticated missiles and modern defense interceptors are unknown. If missile defense tools do not perform as advertised, carriers could be pushed so far from a fight that they'd become irrelevant, nullifying America's principal tool of power projection.

What can be done? Most war games end with a "hot wash," a kind of debriefing, where participants discuss what went right and what went completely wrong. They discuss what they would do differently if they could roll back the clock. And sometimes, they do just that—rewind and run through the fight all over again.

August 9, 2015 - 1215 Hours

The battle to defend the Nimitz no longer begins with missiles, but with robots. Hours before the carrier group reaches those lurking diesel–electric Kilos, the carrier's escort ships deploy a handful of unmanned underwater vehicles (UUVs) to patrol between Taiwan and Okinawa.

These torpedo-size drones use continuous active sonar (CAS) arrays, which release a steady stream of energy, the sonar equivalent of a spotlight. "CAS will change the calculus from the sub being the hunter, to being the hunted," says Waickwicz, who now works for Virginia-based Alion Science and Technology, which is testing its CAS technology on a surface vessel and next year plans to begin testing the sonar on UUVs.

The robots protecting the carrier group aren't armed, but the nuclear-powered Virginia-class sub monitoring their progress certainly is. The Chinese subs lying in ambush must scatter before firing or be sunk.

There are ways to make air defenses more resilient as well. This time Kadena is better prepared for hacker attacks, thanks to sophisticated missile defense batteries like the Medium Extended Air Defense System. Instead of relying on a single computer network to coordinate antiair launches, each MEADS can operate autonomously and cover 360 degrees of sky.

With the Air Force base functional, F-15s (and, later, F-22s flying in from Hawaii) can guard the Nimitz, engage the incoming decoys and preserve the group's supply of antiair missiles.

The Chinese fighters launch their missiles, but only two reach the Nimitz. Pilots and sailors are killed and wounded, but the flight deck is intact, and the carrier's mission to protect Taiwan can continue.

There's one more threat to counter, though. The ASBMs take off from five different locations in southeastern China. One of them is spotted by an American stealth UAV, one of a handful operating high-endurance missions out of Kadena. In 2009 the U.S. Air Force confirmed the use of the first radar-deflecting drone—the RQ-170 Sentinel—on surveillance missions over Afghanistan.

By 2015 the Air Force is flying heirs to the Sentinel that are armed with experimental Network-Centric Airborne Defense Element missile interceptors. Fired from standard air-to-air launchers, these missiles can strike ballistic missiles before they leave the atmosphere. When tensions between China and Taiwan began to rise, the Air Force quietly rushed the experimental weapons from the Nevada Test and Training Range to Kadena.

The high-endurance UAVs can loiter, unseen, waiting for a ballistic missile launch. When their sensors detect the rocket's plume, two of the UAVs fire at the rising missiles, and one scores a hit; the missile disintegrates into a ball of burning fuel and debris. That's one fewer carrier-hunting missile streaking at the Nimitz.

Another is knocked out in space by SM-3 interceptors. Now three are entering the ASBM's signature death dive. The Aegis ships shoot again, but during this replay they are using a new model, the SM-2 Block IV. Like most terminal-phase systems, it is a defensive Hail Mary. Two ASBMs miss, but a third is clipped by an SM-2 and dumps into the sea.

The hot wash ends with the carrier safe, its presence thwarting the invasion and tipping the scales toward Taiwan during cease-fire negotiations. Preparedness is the cornerstone of deterrence, and some analysts say that the Pentagon must match Chinese advances to prevent conflict. "Part of what keeps the probability of war so small is that the U.S. and Taiwan have taken steps to make sure it would be painful for China," RAND's Shlapak says. As it adapts to China's strengths, the Pentagon is confronted with an unfamiliar position. The battle for Taiwan—even if no shots are ever fired—has already begun.

How Communism Works

http://history.howstuffworks.com/cold-war/communism1.htm

Karl Marx, the father of communism

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Communist Theories and Principles

The political theory of socialism, which gave rise to communism, had been around for hundreds of years by the time a German philosopher named Karl Marx put pen to paper. Marx, also known as the father of communism, spent most of his life in exile in Great Britain and France. He wrote the Communist Manifesto in 1848, which later served as the inspiration for the formation of the Communist Party. Communism is also known as "Marxism."

Marx believed that a truly utopian society must be classless and stateless. (It should be noted that Marx died well before any of his theories were put to the test.) Marx's main idea was simple: Free the lower class from poverty and give the poor a fighting chance. How he believed it should be accomplished, however, was another story. In order to liberate the lower class, Marx believed that the government would have to control all means of production so that no one could outdo anyone else by making more money. Unfortunately, that proves to this day to be more difficult than he might have realized.

Marx described three necessary phases toward achieving his idea of utopia.

Phase 1: A revolution must take place in order to overthrow the existing government. Marx emphasized the need for total destruction of the existing system in order to move on to Phase 2.
Phase 2: A dictator or elite leader (or leaders) must gain absolute control over the proletariat. During this phase, the new government exerts absolute control over the common citizen's personal choices -- including his or her education, religion, employment and even marriage. Collectivization of property and wealth must also take place.
Phase 3: Achievement of utopia. This phase has never been attained because it requires that all non-communists be destroyed in order for the Communist Party to achieve supreme equality. In a Marxist utopia, everyone would happily share property and wealth, free from the restrictions that class-based systems require. The government would control all means of production so that the one-class system would remain constant, with no possibility of any middle class citizens rising back to the top. (You can see the full text of the manifesto at this Web site.)

Marx also detailed the 10 essential tenets of communism, namely:

Central banking system
Government controlled education
Government controlled labor
Government ownership of transportation and communication vehicles
Government ownership of agricultural means and factories
Total abolition of private property
Property rights confiscation
Heavy income tax on everyone
Elimination of rights of inheritance
Regional planning

In the communist society that Marx described, the government has supreme authority through its total control of land and means of production. Because the government distributes land and property among the people, communism sets a standard of equality -- both economically and socially -- among its followers.

The system seems to work in theory, but how did communism work in practice? Read on to learn about the rise of the first communist nation.

Re: [NewJersey_for_Kerry] Democrat internet spammer says dead people are a "molehill"

Poor, poor Kenneth. When folks are given an opportunity to have free choice, it's a proven fact that stupid people usually make the wrong choices. Wala: Kenneth Sloan.

On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:

Babble on silly

You say this bad program existed under Bush

And yet your Democratic media and democratic congress did nothing about it,nd now people are dead

And Obama and Holder are trying to hide documents, which you say would show it is all Bush's fault. So why not show them

As usual you are too stupid to grasp anything including the implications of your own nazi leaders lies

On Saturday, June 23, 2012, Kenneth Sloan <wilddudenj@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Holder didn't know about Fast & Furious when he first became attorney general, which is why he didn't investigate it right away. Holder has so far been cooperative with Congress in releasing documents except where it may put agents in Mexico in danger. Once again, the GOPers are making a making a mountain out of a molehill to make President Obama look bad. Getting Bin Landen was brushed off, so they need another non-issue, which is why they refused to call as witnesses those who were actually responsible for another failed Bush policy.
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> Oh, Brucie, you really should stop watching FOX. It's a proven fact that regular viewers have lower than average intelligence.
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> --- On Sat, 6/23/12, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NewJersey_for_Kerry] GOPers latest feed bag for their sheeple - President Obama ended Fast & Furious which G.W. Bush started
> To: "NewJersey_for_Kerry@yahoogroups.com" <NewJersey_for_Kerry@yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: "politicalforum" <PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com>, "individual-sovereignty" <Individual-Sovereignty@yahoogroups.com>, "hoosiermaster@yahoogroups.com" <hoosiermaster@yahoogroups.com>, "whateverreturns" <whateverreturns@yahoogroups.com>, "presidentbarakobama" <PresidentBarakObama@yahoogroups.com>, "Hope4America" <Hope4america@yahoogroups.com>, "DeBaters_Gathering@yahoogroups.com" <DeBaters_Gathering@yahoogroups.com>, "3 libertarianrepublicans" <libertarianrepublicans@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Saturday, June 23, 2012, 4:00 AM
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> What congress has called for is a release of documents
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> The bush adminstration could not release documents now, only Holder could
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> Notice that when Democrats controlled Congress theydid not investigate this or ask the Bush Administration to release documents
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> Once again Kenny you and the people you parrot are shown to be who's and morons
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> On Friday, June 22, 2012, Kenneth Sloan <wilddudenj@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> What's even funnier is no one from the Bush administration, which started this among many other failures, was called by the GOPers in Congress to testify about Fast and Furious. It's the GOPers who want this feedbag and do to the attorney general what Bush did to Valarie Plame/Joe Wilson. The fact that turning over sensitive documents that may put undercover agents in danger isn't important Scapegoats are vital the GOPers.
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>> To be sure, the fact that Holder has been investigating voter suppression in such places as Georgia, Texas and Florida during an election year is reason enough for this witch hunt.
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>> Happy post-Atlas Shrugged-the-Movie-Part-1-gets-mislabeled Day, all!
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>> --- On Fri, 6/22/12, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> From: Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [NewJersey_for_Kerry] Democrats latest feed bag for their sheeple - President Obama ended Fast & Furious which G.W. Bush started
>> To: "NewJersey_for_Kerry@yahoogroups.com" <NewJersey_for_Kerry@yahoogroups.com>
>> Cc: "politicalforum" <PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com>, "individual-sovereignty" <Individual-Sovereignty@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Friday, June 22, 2012, 11:54 AM
>>
>>
>> Funny then that Holder has to hide all those documents that would prove that Boooooossshhhhh!!!!,!, did it Kenny boy
>>
>> On Thursday, June 21, 2012, Kenneth Sloan wrote:
>>
>>
>> The first known ATF "gunwalking" operation to Mexican drug cartels,
>> named Operation Wide Receiver, began in early 2006 and ran into late
>> 2007. Licensed dealer Mike Detty informed the ATF of a suspicious gun
>> purchase that took place in February 2006 in Tucson, Arizona. In March
>> he was hired as a confidential informant working with the ATF's Tucson
>> office, part of their Phoenix, Arizona field division.[23] With the
>> use of surveillance equipment, ATF agents monitored additional sales
>> by Detty to straw purchasers. With assurance from ATF "that Mexican
>> officials would be conducting surveillance or interdictions when guns
>> got to the other side of the border",[24] Detty would sell a total of
>> about 450 guns during the operation.[22] These included AR-15s,
>> semi-automatic AK-pattern rifles, and Colt .38s. The vast majority of
>> the guns were eventually lost as they moved into Mexico.[7][23][25]
>>
>> At the time, under the Bush administration Department of Justice
>> (DOJ), no arrests or indictments were made. After President Barack
>> Obama took office in 2009, the DOJ reviewed Wide Receiver in September
>> 2009[26] and found that guns had been allowed into the hands of
>> suspected gun traffickers. Indictments began in 2010, over three years
>> after Wide Receiver concluded. As of October 4, 2011 (2011
>> -10-04)[update], nine people had been charged with making false
>> statements in acquisition of firearms and illicit transfer, shipment
>> or delivery of firearms.[18] As of November, charges against one
>> defendant had been dropped; five of them had pled guilty, and one had
>> been sentenced to one year and one day in prison. Two of them remained
>> fugitives.[23]
>>
>> Another, smaller probe occurred in 2007 under the same ATF Phoenix
>> field division. It began when the ATF identified Mexican suspects who
>> bought weapons from a Phoenix gun shop over a span of several months.
>>
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[NewJersey_for_Kerry] Democrat internet spammer says dead people are a "molehill"

Babble on silly

You say this bad program existed under Bush

And yet your Democratic media and democratic congress did nothing about it,nd now people are dead

And Obama and Holder are trying to hide documents, which you say would show it is all Bush's fault. So why not show them

As usual you are too stupid to grasp anything including the implications of your own nazi leaders lies

On Saturday, June 23, 2012, Kenneth Sloan <wilddudenj@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Holder didn't know about Fast & Furious when he first became attorney general, which is why he didn't investigate it right away. Holder has so far been cooperative with Congress in releasing documents except where it may put agents in Mexico in danger. Once again, the GOPers are making a making a mountain out of a molehill to make President Obama look bad. Getting Bin Landen was brushed off, so they need another non-issue, which is why they refused to call as witnesses those who were actually responsible for another failed Bush policy.
>
> Oh, Brucie, you really should stop watching FOX. It's a proven fact that regular viewers have lower than average intelligence.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 6/23/12, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NewJersey_for_Kerry] GOPers latest feed bag for their sheeple - President Obama ended Fast & Furious which G.W. Bush started
> To: "NewJersey_for_Kerry@yahoogroups.com" <NewJersey_for_Kerry@yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: "politicalforum" <PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com>, "individual-sovereignty" <Individual-Sovereignty@yahoogroups.com>, "hoosiermaster@yahoogroups.com" <hoosiermaster@yahoogroups.com>, "whateverreturns" <whateverreturns@yahoogroups.com>, "presidentbarakobama" <PresidentBarakObama@yahoogroups.com>, "Hope4America" <Hope4america@yahoogroups.com>, "DeBaters_Gathering@yahoogroups.com" <DeBaters_Gathering@yahoogroups.com>, "3 libertarianrepublicans" <libertarianrepublicans@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Saturday, June 23, 2012, 4:00 AM
>
>
> What congress has called for is a release of documents
>
> The bush adminstration could not release documents now, only Holder could
>
> Notice that when Democrats controlled Congress theydid not investigate this or ask the Bush Administration to release documents
>
> Once again Kenny you and the people you parrot are shown to be who's and morons
>
> On Friday, June 22, 2012, Kenneth Sloan <wilddudenj@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> What's even funnier is no one from the Bush administration, which started this among many other failures, was called by the GOPers in Congress to testify about Fast and Furious. It's the GOPers who want this feedbag and do to the attorney general what Bush did to Valarie Plame/Joe Wilson. The fact that turning over sensitive documents that may put undercover agents in danger isn't important Scapegoats are vital the GOPers.
>>
>> To be sure, the fact that Holder has been investigating voter suppression in such places as Georgia, Texas and Florida during an election year is reason enough for this witch hunt.
>>
>>
>> Happy post-Atlas Shrugged-the-Movie-Part-1-gets-mislabeled Day, all!
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Fri, 6/22/12, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [NewJersey_for_Kerry] Democrats latest feed bag for their sheeple - President Obama ended Fast & Furious which G.W. Bush started
>> To: "NewJersey_for_Kerry@yahoogroups.com" <NewJersey_for_Kerry@yahoogroups.com>
>> Cc: "politicalforum" <PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com>, "individual-sovereignty" <Individual-Sovereignty@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Friday, June 22, 2012, 11:54 AM
>>
>>
>> Funny then that Holder has to hide all those documents that would prove that Boooooossshhhhh!!!!,!, did it Kenny boy
>>
>> On Thursday, June 21, 2012, Kenneth Sloan wrote:
>>
>>
>> The first known ATF "gunwalking" operation to Mexican drug cartels,
>> named Operation Wide Receiver, began in early 2006 and ran into late
>> 2007. Licensed dealer Mike Detty informed the ATF of a suspicious gun
>> purchase that took place in February 2006 in Tucson, Arizona. In March
>> he was hired as a confidential informant working with the ATF's Tucson
>> office, part of their Phoenix, Arizona field division.[23] With the
>> use of surveillance equipment, ATF agents monitored additional sales
>> by Detty to straw purchasers. With assurance from ATF "that Mexican
>> officials would be conducting surveillance or interdictions when guns
>> got to the other side of the border",[24] Detty would sell a total of
>> about 450 guns during the operation.[22] These included AR-15s,
>> semi-automatic AK-pattern rifles, and Colt .38s. The vast majority of
>> the guns were eventually lost as they moved into Mexico.[7][23][25]
>>
>> At the time, under the Bush administration Department of Justice
>> (DOJ), no arrests or indictments were made. After President Barack
>> Obama took office in 2009, the DOJ reviewed Wide Receiver in September
>> 2009[26] and found that guns had been allowed into the hands of
>> suspected gun traffickers. Indictments began in 2010, over three years
>> after Wide Receiver concluded. As of October 4, 2011 (2011
>> -10-04)[update], nine people had been charged with making false
>> statements in acquisition of firearms and illicit transfer, shipment
>> or delivery of firearms.[18] As of November, charges against one
>> defendant had been dropped; five of them had pled guilty, and one had
>> been sentenced to one year and one day in prison. Two of them remained
>> fugitives.[23]
>>
>> Another, smaller probe occurred in 2007 under the same ATF Phoenix
>> field division. It began when the ATF identified Mexican suspects who
>> bought weapons from a Phoenix gun shop over a span of several months.
>>
>
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Re: [NewJersey_for_Kerry] GOPers latest feed bag for their sheeple - President Obama ended Fast & Furious which G.W. Bush started

Babble on silly

You say this bas program existed under Bush

And yet your Democratic media and democratic congress did nothing about it during Bush, and now people are dead

And Obama and Holder are trying to hide documents, which you say would show it is all Bush's fault. So why not show them and show how evil Bush was

As usual you are too stupid to grasp anything including the implications of your own leaders lies

On Saturday, June 23, 2012, Kenneth Sloan <wilddudenj@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Holder didn't know about Fast & Furious when he first became attorney general, which is why he didn't investigate it right away. Holder has so far been cooperative with Congress in releasing documents except where it may put agents in Mexico in danger. Once again, the GOPers are making a making a mountain out of a molehill to make President Obama look bad. Getting Bin Landen was brushed off, so they need another non-issue, which is why they refused to call as witnesses those who were actually responsible for another failed Bush policy.
>
> Oh, Brucie, you really should stop watching FOX. It's a proven fact that regular viewers have lower than average intelligence.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 6/23/12, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NewJersey_for_Kerry] GOPers latest feed bag for their sheeple - President Obama ended Fast & Furious which G.W. Bush started
> To: "NewJersey_for_Kerry@yahoogroups.com" <NewJersey_for_Kerry@yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: "politicalforum" <PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com>, "individual-sovereignty" <Individual-Sovereignty@yahoogroups.com>, "hoosiermaster@yahoogroups.com" <hoosiermaster@yahoogroups.com>, "whateverreturns" <whateverreturns@yahoogroups.com>, "presidentbarakobama" <PresidentBarakObama@yahoogroups.com>, "Hope4America" <Hope4america@yahoogroups.com>, "DeBaters_Gathering@yahoogroups.com" <DeBaters_Gathering@yahoogroups.com>, "3 libertarianrepublicans" <libertarianrepublicans@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Saturday, June 23, 2012, 4:00 AM
>
>
> What congress has called for is a release of documents
>
> The bush adminstration could not release documents now, only Holder could
>
> Notice that when Democrats controlled Congress theydid not investigate this or ask the Bush Administration to release documents
>
> Once again Kenny you and the people you parrot are shown to be who's and morons
>
> On Friday, June 22, 2012, Kenneth Sloan <wilddudenj@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> What's even funnier is no one from the Bush administration, which started this among many other failures, was called by the GOPers in Congress to testify about Fast and Furious. It's the GOPers who want this feedbag and do to the attorney general what Bush did to Valarie Plame/Joe Wilson. The fact that turning over sensitive documents that may put undercover agents in danger isn't important Scapegoats are vital the GOPers.
>>
>> To be sure, the fact that Holder has been investigating voter suppression in such places as Georgia, Texas and Florida during an election year is reason enough for this witch hunt.
>>
>>
>> Happy post-Atlas Shrugged-the-Movie-Part-1-gets-mislabeled Day, all!
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Fri, 6/22/12, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [NewJersey_for_Kerry] Democrats latest feed bag for their sheeple - President Obama ended Fast & Furious which G.W. Bush started
>> To: "NewJersey_for_Kerry@yahoogroups.com" <NewJersey_for_Kerry@yahoogroups.com>
>> Cc: "politicalforum" <PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com>, "individual-sovereignty" <Individual-Sovereignty@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Friday, June 22, 2012, 11:54 AM
>>
>>
>> Funny then that Holder has to hide all those documents that would prove that Boooooossshhhhh!!!!,!, did it Kenny boy
>>
>> On Thursday, June 21, 2012, Kenneth Sloan wrote:
>>
>>
>> The first known ATF "gunwalking" operation to Mexican drug cartels,
>> named Operation Wide Receiver, began in early 2006 and ran into late
>> 2007. Licensed dealer Mike Detty informed the ATF of a suspicious gun
>> purchase that took place in February 2006 in Tucson, Arizona. In March
>> he was hired as a confidential informant working with the ATF's Tucson
>> office, part of their Phoenix, Arizona field division.[23] With the
>> use of surveillance equipment, ATF agents monitored additional sales
>> by Detty to straw purchasers. With assurance from ATF "that Mexican
>> officials would be conducting surveillance or interdictions when guns
>> got to the other side of the border",[24] Detty would sell a total of
>> about 450 guns during the operation.[22] These included AR-15s,
>> semi-automatic AK-pattern rifles, and Colt .38s. The vast majority of
>> the guns were eventually lost as they moved into Mexico.[7][23][25]
>>
>> At the time, under the Bush administration Department of Justice
>> (DOJ), no arrests or indictments were made. After President Barack
>> Obama took office in 2009, the DOJ reviewed Wide Receiver in September
>> 2009[26] and found that guns had been allowed into the hands of
>> suspected gun traffickers. Indictments began in 2010, over three years
>> after Wide Receiver concluded. As of October 4, 2011 (2011
>> -10-04)[update], nine people had been charged with making false
>> statements in acquisition of firearms and illicit transfer, shipment
>> or delivery of firearms.[18] As of November, charges against one
>> defendant had been dropped; five of them had pled guilty, and one had
>> been sentenced to one year and one day in prison. Two of them remained
>> fugitives.[23]
>>
>> Another, smaller probe occurred in 2007 under the same ATF Phoenix
>> field division. It began when the ATF identified Mexican suspects who
>> bought weapons from a Phoenix gun shop over a span of several months.
>>
>
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Obama 2012 has a new campaign poster!!!

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Obama 2012 has a new campaign poster!!!

by Dr. Eowyn

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H/t FOTM's Miss May and Prison Planet

~Eowyn

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Wish I Was a Mechanic – Car Natural Gas Conversion

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Wish I Was a Mechanic – Car Natural Gas Conversion

by lowtechgrannie

Rick Santelli of CNBC did a half hour program on the future of natural gas as an automotive fuel option. With the boom in the natural gas industry, the price he quotes is around 66 cents a gallon.

One of the commenters on the Santelli video is very knowledgeable and did a conversion of a Lexus for $1,000. Where he's based in in Utah there are service stations offering natural gas for only $1.29 at the pump! He made a video that gives good advice for anyone wanting make the switch!

lowtechgrannie | June 21, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Tags: auto, car, conversion, Fuel, gas, natural gas, Rick Santelli, vehicle | Categories: Uncategorized | URL: http://wp.me/pKuKY-fdP

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