Thursday, May 17, 2012

RNC, Romney campaign will erect new organization to bypass state GOP

This should have the GOP Faithful wholly livid and outraged ....

"Taking over the Republican Party is like trying to take over the Gambino Family. In Nevada, the mob known as the RNC is joining with the Romney Family to set up a new party to bypass the Paulians. The establishment group will be seated in Tampa. It's like the 1952 convention, when Eisenhower stole the nomination from Taft by tossing out Taft delegations, under the aegis of Earl Warren, and seating Ike establishmentarians instead. Warren was rewarded with the chief justiceship of the Supremes, and wreaked huge harm. The Republican party can never be trusted. It is, after all, an adjunct of the federal government." -- LHR, Jr.

RNC, Romney campaign will erect new organization to bypass state GOP
By Jon Ralston
Wednesday, May 16, 2012 | 2:41 p.m.

UPDATE: Late yesterday, GOP Chairman Michael McDonald, trying to slow down any move to make the party irrelevant, worked with the RNC and released a statement designed to undercut the Clark County party's call for Reince Priebus' resignation and indicate to DC that he is willing to play ball:

"The Chairman of the Republican National Committee Reince Priebus has the authority to take the necessary steps to support a candidate to ensure Republicans win the presidency in November. RNC Rule 11 applies to the RNC's ability to make endorsements and spend resources in state races and may have been misinterpreted by some in Nevada in its application to the presidential election. Ron Paul's campaign released a statement on May 5 providing Chairman Priebus and the RNC their "full consent" to move forward with setting up Victory organizations. Certainly we do not need to wait for Tampa before assisting our presumptive nominee. I look forward to working with Chairman Priebus and Republicans across the state of Nevada as we build a top-notch ground game to beat Barack Obama and elect Mitt Romney to the White House."

In concert, Sean Spicer, the communications director of the RNC, told me: "The RNC continues to work with the state party."

To some extent this merely heads off the inevitable because nobody here on the ground -- from the RNC, from the Romney campaign, from the Dean Heller campaign, from the Joe Heck campaign -- is likely to trust the party with any real money. But can McDonald slow down the move to erect the outside entity for a bit -- at least before something else goofy happens out here? Perhaps. After all, if he can persuade the City Council to give him $4 million for a project even though he's not a developer, maybe he can sell the DC and Boston folks that he really can run a viable state party.

Fed up with an inept and self-destructive GOP apparatus in Nevada, the Republican National Committee and the Mitt Romney campaign have decided to erect a "shadow state party" in this critical swing state, sources confirmed today.

"They are still bogged down in the minutiae of whether Romney will be the presumptive nominee," scoffed a GOP strategist familiar with the details of the restructuring. "We don't have time for that when the Obama campaign already is in full campaign mode. We have no use for them (the state GOP)."

The lack of faith in the Republican Party here intensified with the botched February caucus, metastasized after the Ron Paul takeover in Sparks and reached its zenith with Tuesday evening's call for RNC Chairman Reince Priebus to resign by a divided Clark County GOP

Priebus was described to me as "disappointed with the censuring," which probably means his blood pressure went high enough to give an elephant a stroke. So Priebus, in concert with the Romney folks here, have decided to turn the so-called Team Nevada office on Tropicana into the de facto Republican Party.

"The goal is for us to be running get out the vote, running phone programs, voter ID, voter contact, everything through the Team Nevada headquarters," the strategist told me. That is, everything the party is supposed to do, except the GOP here can't raise money and has the inmates running the asylum.

He continued: "The RNC has said it is willing to do everything possible as the state party appears not to be willing to work with us, so we will do it without them."

The plan would be to transfer money directly to Team Nevada and/or funnel some through the Washoe Republican Party, run by the respected Dave Buell, who is well-liked by the RNC and Romney folks.

To distill, the GOP insider said, "Essentially we're setting up a shadow state party."

And it will surely cast a long shadow over a state GOP that is trying to oust its executive director, David Gallagher, a political pro, while other staff departures seem likely as the Paul folks complete their coup. Even soon-to-be-former RNC Committeeman Bob List called the state GOP "dysfunctional" during an appearance today on NPR's "Talk of the Nation," although the former governor also blamed the Romney campaign for resting on its caucus win laurels and allowing the Paul revolution to occur.

But List is likely not to factor into these plans, which will feature full integration, as is occurring nationally, between the RNC and Romney. It's also likely that after the June 12 primary clears the filed, the Rep. Joe Heck and Sen. Dean Heller campaigns will get on board.

This move has been inevitable and essential for some time for the RNC and Team Romney to combat a formidable Democratic machine. They won't be able to do everything the Democrats can do, but separating themselves from the imploding and embarrassing party structure is a good first step.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/ralstons-flash/2012/may/16/rnc-romney-campaigns-will-erect-new-organization-b/

Photo was taken at La Bastille Plaza in Paris

This photo was taken at La Bastille Plaza in Paris, during the election celebration for the comrade socialist president Hollande. See any French flags? Anywhere? Actually, there is ONE towards the bottom right. The other flags are in order of appurtenance, Palestinian (2 flags top right+1 center left), Algerian, Turkish (towards center), Syrian (towards left of pic + below Palestinian flag), Moroccan (w. star in center), and European Union flag. The other flags I can't recognize, there are also Syndicates or Unions' flags. That's France in a nutshell.

Also please read below the picture from a French citizen.

This e-mail was sent from a friend in France - Maxime Lépante, through Stuart Kaufman

Hello to my American friends,

As you know, the Socialist François Hollande won the presidential elections in France, last Sunday. It is a catastrophe for France.

Hollande was elected by the Muslims:

A survey (of 10,000 Muslims) shows that 93% of the Muslims voted for him.

As 2 million Muslims participated in this election, Hollande got 1,720,000 Muslim votes more than Sarkozy did: (0.93-0.07) x 2,000,000 = 1,720,000. But at the end, from the entire population, he got only 1,139,316 votes more than Sarkozy. So, without the Muslims' votes, Sarkozy would have been re-elected.

All the Muslim criminals feel now empowered. Criminality is already on the rise (1,700 cars were burnt in France for the first night). Muslims are screaming anti-French and anti-Jews watchwords in our streets.

Veiled women, wearing the illegal burqa, are strolling in our streets.

And, as if this wasn't enough, Hollande wants to give to all the foreigners the right to vote in our elections!!

France will face a very hard situation. We are heading for civil war in a few years.

That's the last news from occupied France.

Maxime Lépante.

Stuart Kaufman

Sent from my iPad

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Anonymous: We Have Access to Every Secret Government Database

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Anonymous: We Have Access to Every Secret Government Database

Anonymous has been meek and quiet since the great Sabu treachery, failing to even threaten much of anything. But in a new interview, one of the group's last remaining leaders says Anon has a nuclear card up its sleeve.

Christopher "Commander X" Doyon, whose name is public because he's been busted for hacking a California government website, sat for an interview with the National Post. The exchange circles mostly around Doyon's exile in Canada, where he's hoping to dodge the wrath of American feds. But he ends on one particularly ominous and/or laughable note:

Q. What's next for Anonymous?
A: Right now we have access to every classified database in the U.S. government. It's a matter of when we leak the contents of those databases, not if. You know how we got access? We didn't hack them. The access was given to us by the people who run the systems.

On the face of it, this is an absurd claim. "Every classified database in the U.S. government" is an outrageously ambitious catch, almost surely too vast to be possible—did someone from literally every government agency sell out to Anonymous? All of them? Even one cache would be a huge feat—see Cablegate—but all of them? It reeks of a tall tale, particularly from an organization with a serious credibility problem (remember when they said they were going to end Mexican drug cartels? Right).

But Doyon's lesser point, that the next great Anonymous coup would be an inside job, is entirely plausible:

The five-star general (and) the Secretary of Defence who sit in the cushy plush offices at the top of the Pentagon don't run anything anymore. It's the pimply-faced kid in the basement who controls the whole game, and Bradley Manning proved that.

Commander X is right: it's amazingly easy for anyone with access to powerful data to spread that data around. So while Anon likely isn't sitting on the collective knowledge of every secret filing cabinet in the United States government, they could have their mitts on some of them. And that alone still makes them dangerous as hell. [National Post]

if Obama had another son, he would look a hell of a lot like George Zimmerman.

Another detail that has come out in the local reports. Zimmerman's
grandfather was black. That's exactly right. That has also surfaced. I
wonder how long all of this stuff has been known by our friends in the
Drive-By Media? George Zimmerman has more black in him than Elizabeth
Warren has Indian. Exactly right. George Zimmerman's grandfather was
black. Now, I had never heard that before, but assuming that that's
true, George Zimmerman is a heck of a lot more black than Elizabeth
Warren is Indian, exactly as you stated, Mr. Snerdley. (interruption)
You have a question? Yeah, he's a black-white Hispanic. In fact, given
our current culture and the president, the way he weighs in on things,
I have the perfect way now to describe George Zimmerman. If all this
is true, and just going by the photos that we've seen of Zimmerman,
I'd almost have to say that if Obama had another son, he would look a
hell of a lot like George Zimmerman.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/05/16/why_the_left_dropped_the_trayvon_story

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Wall Street Editorial Page: If the Government Claims You are a Terrorist, then You ARE a Terrorist

Wall Street Editorial Page: If the Government Claims You are a Terrorist, then You ARE a Terrorist
Posted by Bill Anderson on May 17, 2012 06:12 AM

The "War on Terror" has become a sickness. Abroad, the U.S. Armed Forces either commit acts of war in small, defenseless countries or they are engaged in dirty wars of occupation, as we have seen in Iraq and Afghanistan. Drone strikes kill innocents and now the government has decided that Americans are so evil that they, too, need to feel the full force of the drone.

Cheering on every lie and abuse has been the neocon (emphasis on "con") Wall Street Journal editorial page and today we see the Journal's viewpoint in all its evil: the government should not have to face any restrictions at all when it comes to pursuing what it calls "terrorists." On top of that, the Journal goes on to lambast those few "Tea Party" Republicans who have the audacity to question the abuses of the FBI, the CIA, and the Armed Forces. The editorial states:

A week ago the world learned of another foiled airplane bombing attack by the Yemeni offshoot of al Qaeda. Osama bin Laden's successors are desperate to strike the U.S. again, which isn't news to most Americans but seems to elude some Members of Congress.

As early as Thursday, the House is due to vote on a measure that effectively declares the war on terror over in the U.S. and dismantles the legal architecture that has protected the homeland since 9/11. Any wonder Americans have so little respect for Congress? Or the Constitution has Presidents run the nation's wars?

The newest "foiled" attempt was yet another CIA "false flag" operation, but the WSJ wants us to believe that the brave U.S. Government agents, using their vast intelligence network that was gained through waterboarding and other "enhanced interrogation" methods that in reality have produced nothing but hot air and lies at home, not to mention hatred of the USA by people abroad. But the editorial gets even better:

Adam Smith, a Washington State Democrat, and Michigan Republican and tea partier Justin Amash want to bar the U.S. military from capturing, detaining or interrogating any terrorist of any nationality captured on American soil. Their proposed amendment to next year's defense authorization bill more or less revokes the legal authority granted by Congress a week after 9/11 to fight terrorists on every front.

What this means in practice is that if al Qaeda big Ayman al-Zawahiri and his soldiers are captured overseas (say, in Pakistan), they can be detained by the military, interrogated, and dispatched to wherever the Commander in Chief decides. But if they happen to make it to the U.S., they will have to be handled like your neighborhood burglar. That means being read their Miranda rights, handed over to the local police and put before a civilian judge. The military or CIA couldn't question them to learn about future plots.

This is a bizarre distinction, as if America is not somehow part of the global terror battlefield. Try to explain that to the al Qaeda bombmakers in Yemen, or the residents of downtown Manhattan. The amendment would essentially reward al Qaeda operatives with better treatment for having the wit to get out of their caves and sneak into America to blow up civilians in shopping malls.

If this is not delusional thinking, then delusion is nonexistent. The only true "organized" terror "plots" in this country since 9/11 have been FBI or CIA-inspired "false flag" actions that were orchestrated and led by government agents. That includes the first "underwear bomber" action and the latest howler, the attempt to blow up a bridge near Cleveland, Ohio, by a gang that on their own probably could not blow up its own bongs.

But the neocon Journal is not done, as the editors include this lament:

The tragedy here is that the political battles over terrorist detention were finally calming down. The anti-antiterror left waged war against President George W. Bush for refusing to treat illegal enemy combatants the same as common criminals, but President Obama has adopted much of the same legal framework. Now a misguided wing of the tea party is giving political cover to the left to revive this fight and confuse the American public with overblown fears that the government can arrest anyone for anything and hold him forever.

Yes, yes, Barack Obama is a hardcore civil libertarian who respects the rights of everyone, including terrorists. Yeah, that truly is an example of "I'll believe it when I see it," given the legal abuses Obama and his hatchet-man Eric Holder have fomented. As much as anything, this editorial exposes the neocons' desire to essentially turn this country into a military dictatorship in which executive power is absolute and when government claims someone is a "terrorist," that person disappears, a country where no accused person is innocent.

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Re: Unbelievable horrors in North Korea coming to light

I know what you mean. I've been to Cuba, but it was controlled as to where we could go. just the touristy stuff.

I always though if I won the lotto I would like to travel. And visit every national capital in the world and have the national dish there. combine my 2 loves travel and food. Perhaps I could get a Canada Council grant for it and make a TV show.....LOL

Bear

On 17 May 2012 10:39, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:

I hadn't seen this Bear. thanks for sharing. I continue to study North Korea and it's leadership. Fascinating. Believe it or not, I would love to go there. The last bastion of Cold War totalinarism.

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Bear Bear <thatbearguy@gmail.com> wrote:

Shocking. Maybe some of those Marxist occupado's should go and see what communism is really like.

By Peter Worthington ,QMI Agency

Shin Dong-hyuk, likely the only man to successfully escape from a North Korean prison camp.

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TORONTO - Arguably, the most poignant interview ever broadcast on CBC Radio's The Curent, was the story this week, of Shin Dong-hyuk — possibly the only person ever to escape from a North Korean slave-labour prison camp.

All stories about prisons are harsh, but prisons, or political labour camps run by totalitarian regimes can be beyond rational comprehension. And while the Soviet gulag with its millions confined, and China's with even more millions in custody, are inhumane and brutal, they pale to horrors of North Korea's slave camps. Especially in the year 2012.

As the only person ever to escape from a NK camp, Shin Dong-hyuk's story is important as it is unique in giving the world a peek inside that regime, and how the ruling Kim family maintains absolute control through fear and cruelty.

Journalist Blaine Harden discovered Shin, and tells his story in a book — Escape from Camp 14. Harden, a translator and Shin were interviewed by Anna Maria Tremonti on the CBC, and provided a wealth of appalling reality that defies imagination.

Estimates are that roughly 200,000 are in NK slave-labour camps — three generations of inmates. Shine was born in Camp 14. The only food inmates ate was a mush of corn, cabbage and salt — supplemented by mice if they could catch them. And insects.

The electrified razor wire around the camp would kill any who touched it. Anyone caught talking about escaping was shot. Shin was conceived when guards allowed brief intimacy between a male and female inmate for obedient behaviour.

At age 14, he heard his mother and brother talking about escape, and was so fearful and indoctrinated that he asked a guard what he should do. The guard turned him in, and he was roasted over a charcoal fire to extract more information. Then he witnessed his mother and brother hanged.

Rather than feel guilt at their death, he was angry that their loose talk made life tougher for him. Normal, human instincts were channeled into self-preservation.

Shin and another inmate decided to escape, but the other guy was electrocuted trying to get past the fence. Shin crawled over his friend's dead body, which grounded the current. He fled north, stole an army uniform, got into China and made his way to Shanghai, where he reached the South Korean embassy and was taken to Seoul.

Among his recollections is a schoolgirl in Camp 14 being beaten to death by a teacher because she had a few kernels of corn in her pocket.

When Shin accidentally dropped a sewing machine, half his middle finger was chopped off as punishment. Guards had inmates beat other inmates who broke rules.

Responding to Tremonti's question how such inhumane treatment could go on when even Russia and China were easing restrictions, author Harden explained that three generations of Kims rule the world's most tyrannical, oppressive state.

Kim Il-sung instigated the slave camps, followed by Kim Jong-il and now Kim Jong-un who maintain them. North Koreans know of these prisons and fear them to the point of absolute submissiveness and obedience.

Once convicted to a camp, relatives and children are confined to them.

Stalin used fear and intimidation as tools for control, North Korea even more so.

"Class enemies" destined for these horror camps include those who dare practice Christianity, or who don't keep photographs of Kim dusted and prominent in their homes.

If caught, listening to a foreign radio broadcasts can be fatal. As Shin's youthful experience indicated those with deviant thoughts, can be executed. Until he escaped at age 29, he had never tasted chicken or pork — only corn mush.

China is North Korea's protector — more fearful of having affluent, dynamic South Korea as a neighbour without impoverished NK as a buffer, than it is concerned about such niggling nuisances as basic human rights.

In negotiations with North Korea, neither the U.S. nor Japan, and certainly not China, ever raise the question of human rights. What's the use? Perhaps our politicians should read Escape from Camp 14.

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JP - Why you should look around your vehicle ?

From: M. Nadeem <nadeem_mirza@yahoo.com>
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:49 PM
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Thanks Imran, Jazaak Allah Khair

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This is a good example of why you should look around your vehicle before leaving your driveway/parking area.

You can see this young child in the wheel well of the truck. A Pike crew working for another Utility found this child while conducting a CIRCLE OF SAFETY of the company truck the crew members were driving. I don't want to think about what would have happened if the employee had gotten in the truck and drove off without doing a walk around. Please share this eye opening, bone chilling photo and experience with your work groups.

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Re: Unbelievable horrors in North Korea coming to light

<Grin>!

You're probably right Mark! There are a number of those You-Tube videos, of the "Tour" that they give to individuals....All of them resemble the exact same thing. You go and give kudos to "Great Leader". They put you on a bus, damn near blind folded to go and see the temple of where they keep all of the gifts that were given to Great Leader; and there are always a bunch of Korean "Tour Guides" giving the tourists a ration of shit for even looking like they want to take a picture of something.

It would be fun! Dangerous.....Yes, but fun!

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 5:09 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:

Keith... You and or I would simply wind up dead or in jail if we
visited...
Neither of us could keep our mouths shut.

On May 17, 8:39 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I hadn't seen this Bear. thanks for sharing. I continue to study North
> Korea and it's leadership. Fascinating. Believe it or not, I would love
> to go there. The last bastion of Cold War totalinarism.
>
>
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>
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>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Bear Bear <thatbear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > *Shocking. Maybe some of those Marxist occupado's should go and see what
> > communism is really like.
>
> > *
> > [image: peter-worthington]
> > By Peter Worthington <http://www.ottawasun.com/author/peter-worthington> ,QMI
> > Agency
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> > [image: Shin Dong-hyuk 160512] Shin Dong-hyuk, likely the only man to
> > successfully escape from a North Korean prison camp.
> > 4<http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/05/15/unbelievable-horrors-in-north-kor...>
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> > - Change text size for the story<http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/05/15/unbelievable-horrors-in-north-kor...>
> > - Print this story<http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/05/15/unbelievable-horrors-in-north-kor...>
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> > Report an error <http://www.ottawasun.com/contact-us#story>
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> > - North Korea's nuclear test ready 'soon'<http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/04/24/north-koreas-nuclear-test-ready-s...>
> > - World powers urge N.Korea to refrain from nuclear test<http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/05/03/world-powers-urge-nkorea-to-refra...>
> > - UN chief: N.Korea missile 'deplorable'<http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/04/12/us-official-confirms-north-korea-...>
> > - Clinton says U.S. willing to work with N.Korea if it reforms<http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/05/04/clinton-says-us-willing-to-work-w...>
>
> > TORONTO - Arguably, the most poignant interview ever broadcast on CBC
> > Radio's The Curent, was the story this week, of Shin Dong-hyuk — possibly
> > the only person ever to escape from a North Korean slave-labour prison camp.
>
> > All stories about prisons are harsh, but prisons, or political labour
> > camps run by totalitarian regimes can be beyond rational comprehension. And
> > while the Soviet gulag with its millions confined, and China's with even
> > more millions in custody, are inhumane and brutal, they pale to horrors of
> > North Korea's slave camps. Especially in the year 2012.
>
> > As the only person ever to escape from a NK camp, Shin Dong-hyuk's story
> > is important as it is unique in giving the world a peek inside that regime,
> > and how the ruling Kim family maintains absolute control through fear and
> > cruelty.
>
> > Journalist Blaine Harden discovered Shin, and tells his story in a book —
> > Escape from Camp 14. Harden, a translator and Shin were interviewed by Anna
> > Maria Tremonti on the CBC, and provided a wealth of appalling reality that
> > defies imagination.
>
> > Estimates are that roughly 200,000 are in NK slave-labour camps — three
> > generations of inmates. Shine was born in Camp 14. The only food inmates
> > ate was a mush of corn, cabbage and salt — supplemented by mice if they
> > could catch them. And insects.
>
> > The electrified razor wire around the camp would kill any who touched it.
> > Anyone caught talking about escaping was shot. Shin was conceived when
> > guards allowed brief intimacy between a male and female inmate for obedient
> > behaviour.
>
> > At age 14, he heard his mother and brother talking about escape, and was
> > so fearful and indoctrinated that he asked a guard what he should do. The
> > guard turned him in, and he was roasted over a charcoal fire to extract
> > more information. Then he witnessed his mother and brother hanged.
>
> > Rather than feel guilt at their death, he was angry that their loose talk
> > made life tougher for him. Normal, human instincts were channeled into
> > self-preservation.
>
> > Shin and another inmate decided to escape, but the other guy was
> > electrocuted trying to get past the fence. Shin crawled over his friend's
> > dead body, which grounded the current. He fled north, stole an army
> > uniform, got into China and made his way to Shanghai, where he reached the
> > South Korean embassy and was taken to Seoul.
>
> > Among his recollections is a schoolgirl in Camp 14 being beaten to death
> > by a teacher because she had a few kernels of corn in her pocket.
>
> > When Shin accidentally dropped a sewing machine, half his middle finger
> > was chopped off as punishment. Guards had inmates beat other inmates who
> > broke rules.
>
> > Responding to Tremonti's question how such inhumane treatment could go on
> > when even Russia and China were easing restrictions, author Harden
> > explained that three generations of Kims rule the world's most tyrannical,
> > oppressive state.
>
> > Kim Il-sung instigated the slave camps, followed by Kim Jong-il and now
> > Kim Jong-un who maintain them. North Koreans know of these prisons and fear
> > them to the point of absolute submissiveness and obedience.
>
> > Once convicted to a camp, relatives and children are confined to them.
>
> > Stalin used fear and intimidation as tools for control, North Korea even
> > more so.
>
> > "Class enemies" destined for these horror camps include those who dare
> > practice Christianity, or who don't keep photographs of Kim dusted and
> > prominent in their homes.
>
> > If caught, listening to a foreign radio broadcasts can be fatal. As Shin's
> > youthful experience indicated those with deviant thoughts, can be executed.
> > Until he escaped at age 29, he had never tasted chicken or pork — only corn
> > mush.
>
> > China is North Korea's protector — more fearful of having affluent,
> > dynamic South Korea as a neighbour without impoverished NK as a buffer,
> > than it is concerned about such niggling nuisances as basic human rights.
>
> > In negotiations with North Korea, neither the U.S. nor Japan, and
> > certainly not China, ever raise the question of human rights. What's the
> > use? Perhaps our politicians should read Escape from Camp 14.
>
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Re: It's Romney's to Lose: Here's How He Does It

What is funny is that few people realize that Paul has not and is not
varying from PLAN "A"... He continues to do exactly what he said he
would do at the outset. When Tampa opens... they will have to listen.

On May 16, 1:01 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> It's Romney's to Lose: Here's How He Does ItRobin Koerner
> Posted: 05/16/2012 12:09 pm
> Many of Ron Paul's supporters are currently abuzz with a letter that was written byJennifer Sheehan, the RNC's legal council in 2008, whichappearsto state that no state delegate to the GOP convention is bound by his state to vote for a particular candidate. The excitement derives from the fact that if it were true, an outright Romney victory in the first round of voting at the convention in Tampa would be rather unlikely. But if it is not true -- and I am sure the GOP will change rules if necessary to make it untrue -- there may be just as much excitement to be had in the possibility of something that is rather more in the control of Paul's supporters.
> It's the big "What if?" question that the letter begs but that few have asked.
> What if Paul's supporters just ignore the binding rules and vote their consciences? What if, in Tampa, all those Paul supporters who are bound by state rules to vote for Romney put the ball firmly back in the GOP's court, and say, "Your move"?
> One's first reaction might be to point out that if that were possible, it would have happened before.
> But that would be a mistake. The GOP is now in uncharted territory.
> Romney's support has proven so shallow and Paul's so deep that, all over the country, at GOP meetings in which delegates are selected to represent a county at the state convention or a state at the national convention, there are too many Paulites in the room to allow pro-Romney party officials to get their favored slates pushed through without underhanded shenanigans. This is having important effects. The most immediately important of these is that, in states where delegates are bound to vote for the candidate who won the state's primary vote (often Romney), the delegates who care enough to actually participate in the process are Paul supporters, and they are selecting Paul-favoring delegates. For example, whereas of the 28 delegates that Nevada will be sending to Tampa, eight are bound to Paul and 20 are bound to Romney, 14 of Romney's eight are really Ron Paul supporters who'd only be voting for Romney because they are "bound" to. And in Colorado, where 14 delegates are bound to Romney, and only two to Paul, what the official numbers don't say is that the 16 uncommitted are probably all Paul supporters.
> So if the Paul supporters were not bound, they may indeed have the numbers, and therefore the means, to stop Romney in the first round of voting. But would they have the chutzpah to unbind themselves -- and a reasonable expectation that if they caused such creative chaos, the outcome could be favorable? I think they do -- courtesy of the GOP itself.
> Romney's Achilles' heel is a moral one. It is the sum of all of the cheating that has been done in his favor by the party. For example...
> In Oklahoma, party officials pulled out a ballroom divider to cordon off Ron Paul supporters and shut them out of participation. Later they turned out the lights. Voice votes that were clearly lost were declared won.
> In Alaska, party officials defeated the majority by retaining the committee which "interpreted rules" and later, after taking the delegation, reluctantly gave up the party control to the new majority but transferred all of the money out of the Republican Party accounts.
> In Virginia, at a district convention, officials coaxed the Ron Paul delegation outside and then locked the door. The pastor of the church that was hosting the event was, himself, locked outside.
> In Missouri, officials had all the delegates sign up at county conventions and then had their county chairman take the rolls outside and lock them in their car trunks so they could block roll call voting and have their chairman declare lost voice votes as won.
> And so on, and so on.The full list, of which is the above is a tiny part, not only provides a moral justification for Paul's people to refuse to play ball at the convention: more importantly, it explains why such hardball could actually work. After all, which fair-minded American wouldn't like to see powerful partisans punished for their arrogance? Which Democrat or Independent or even average American who doesn't care much for politics but feels seriously let down by a political elite who act out of a sense of entitlement rather than a sense of service -- which of them wouldn't think the Paul people were doing no more than giving as good as they had gotten... especially when the nation is reminded that the GOP wasn't bound by its own rules whenit chose to providematerial support to Romney while the race was still ongoing.
> Imagine it. At last,their rEVOLutionwould have to be televised, and what good TV it would be -- the very stuff that cable infotainment is made of.
> When a reporter from CNN interviews a delegate from Nevada with faintly disapproving confusion, the delegate might say, "We wish we didn't have to do it, but at the state convention in 2008, the party officersturned out the lightsand left in the middle of the meeting just so our vote for Ron Paul wouldn't be counted. So we think it's payback time."
> And when that airs, I don't think many Americans would disagree with him. Yet, plenty would think that in a small way, the Paulbots had just landed a punch on behalf of a nation that has wondered for too long how to get through to that special elite that long ago forgot who works for whom.
> What could the GOP do about it?
> If it were to disqualify all those self-unbinding delegates, the fracture -- and more importantly, the story that it told -- would huge. The Democrats would eat it up and the GOP would have just told 20% of its own base that they are not wanted. Even if Romney could still win the nomination, the GOP would have just lost the election.
> So the better course would be for the GOP to count Paul's delegates' votes, and Romney would be unlikely to win on the first round. His mantle as the one who could obviously beat Obama would be tarnished if he couldn't clearly beat his one Republican rival. Not only the liberty Republicans, but also the social Conservatives who never really trusted Romney anyway, would be in a position to choose a candidate they really cared for in the subsequent rounds.
> And that's when the narrative would really change.
> Everyone knows that in a second ballot, Romney's vote would fall, making him less credible, and (here's the safest bet in American politics) Paul's rises, making him the most exciting ticket in town.
> Once the inevitability of Romney's nomination disappears, everyone will be free to admit that it was only the illusion of inevitability that made him look like, well, the inevitable nominee in the first place.
> If the Mormon halo flickers, that very human capacity that has so far served Romney so well -- the post hoc justification of something believed to be in one's self-interest -- would swing, in short order, in Paul's favor. People get very excited about an underdog who can win -- especially if he is an underdog that was kept down by nefarious means.
> Is this possibility or fantasy? At the time of writing, the official bound state delegatecountsout ofthe few statesthat have already held their state conventions are 33 for Paul and 73 for Romney, but the number of delegates from these states that are known to favor Paul and Romney are 65 and 59, respectively. All other delegate numbers are at this point projections or speculation.
> Those who look at the mountain that Ron Paul has to climb and wonder, "How?" might find their answer by looking at the mountain that Romney has to tumble down, and asking the very same question.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-koerner/its-romneys-to-lose-heres_b_1519827.html?ref=email_share

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Re: Unbelievable horrors in North Korea coming to light

Keith... You and or I would simply wind up dead or in jail if we
visited...
Neither of us could keep our mouths shut.

On May 17, 8:39 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I hadn't seen this Bear. thanks for sharing. I continue to study North
> Korea and it's leadership. Fascinating. Believe it or not, I would love
> to go there. The last bastion of Cold War totalinarism.
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> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Bear Bear <thatbear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > *Shocking. Maybe some of those Marxist occupado's should go and see what
> > communism is really like.
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> > *
> > [image: peter-worthington]
> > By Peter Worthington <http://www.ottawasun.com/author/peter-worthington> ,QMI
> > Agency
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> > [image: Shin Dong-hyuk 160512] Shin Dong-hyuk, likely the only man to
> > successfully escape from a North Korean prison camp.
> > 4<http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/05/15/unbelievable-horrors-in-north-kor...>
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> > - Change text size for the story<http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/05/15/unbelievable-horrors-in-north-kor...>
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> > - World powers urge N.Korea to refrain from nuclear test<http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/05/03/world-powers-urge-nkorea-to-refra...>
> > - UN chief: N.Korea missile 'deplorable'<http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/04/12/us-official-confirms-north-korea-...>
> > - Clinton says U.S. willing to work with N.Korea if it reforms<http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/05/04/clinton-says-us-willing-to-work-w...>
>
> > TORONTO - Arguably, the most poignant interview ever broadcast on CBC
> > Radio's The Curent, was the story this week, of Shin Dong-hyuk — possibly
> > the only person ever to escape from a North Korean slave-labour prison camp.
>
> > All stories about prisons are harsh, but prisons, or political labour
> > camps run by totalitarian regimes can be beyond rational comprehension. And
> > while the Soviet gulag with its millions confined, and China's with even
> > more millions in custody, are inhumane and brutal, they pale to horrors of
> > North Korea's slave camps. Especially in the year 2012.
>
> > As the only person ever to escape from a NK camp, Shin Dong-hyuk's story
> > is important as it is unique in giving the world a peek inside that regime,
> > and how the ruling Kim family maintains absolute control through fear and
> > cruelty.
>
> > Journalist Blaine Harden discovered Shin, and tells his story in a book —
> > Escape from Camp 14. Harden, a translator and Shin were interviewed by Anna
> > Maria Tremonti on the CBC, and provided a wealth of appalling reality that
> > defies imagination.
>
> > Estimates are that roughly 200,000 are in NK slave-labour camps — three
> > generations of inmates. Shine was born in Camp 14. The only food inmates
> > ate was a mush of corn, cabbage and salt — supplemented by mice if they
> > could catch them. And insects.
>
> > The electrified razor wire around the camp would kill any who touched it.
> > Anyone caught talking about escaping was shot. Shin was conceived when
> > guards allowed brief intimacy between a male and female inmate for obedient
> > behaviour.
>
> > At age 14, he heard his mother and brother talking about escape, and was
> > so fearful and indoctrinated that he asked a guard what he should do. The
> > guard turned him in, and he was roasted over a charcoal fire to extract
> > more information. Then he witnessed his mother and brother hanged.
>
> > Rather than feel guilt at their death, he was angry that their loose talk
> > made life tougher for him. Normal, human instincts were channeled into
> > self-preservation.
>
> > Shin and another inmate decided to escape, but the other guy was
> > electrocuted trying to get past the fence. Shin crawled over his friend's
> > dead body, which grounded the current. He fled north, stole an army
> > uniform, got into China and made his way to Shanghai, where he reached the
> > South Korean embassy and was taken to Seoul.
>
> > Among his recollections is a schoolgirl in Camp 14 being beaten to death
> > by a teacher because she had a few kernels of corn in her pocket.
>
> > When Shin accidentally dropped a sewing machine, half his middle finger
> > was chopped off as punishment. Guards had inmates beat other inmates who
> > broke rules.
>
> > Responding to Tremonti's question how such inhumane treatment could go on
> > when even Russia and China were easing restrictions, author Harden
> > explained that three generations of Kims rule the world's most tyrannical,
> > oppressive state.
>
> > Kim Il-sung instigated the slave camps, followed by Kim Jong-il and now
> > Kim Jong-un who maintain them. North Koreans know of these prisons and fear
> > them to the point of absolute submissiveness and obedience.
>
> > Once convicted to a camp, relatives and children are confined to them.
>
> > Stalin used fear and intimidation as tools for control, North Korea even
> > more so.
>
> > "Class enemies" destined for these horror camps include those who dare
> > practice Christianity, or who don't keep photographs of Kim dusted and
> > prominent in their homes.
>
> > If caught, listening to a foreign radio broadcasts can be fatal. As Shin's
> > youthful experience indicated those with deviant thoughts, can be executed.
> > Until he escaped at age 29, he had never tasted chicken or pork — only corn
> > mush.
>
> > China is North Korea's protector — more fearful of having affluent,
> > dynamic South Korea as a neighbour without impoverished NK as a buffer,
> > than it is concerned about such niggling nuisances as basic human rights.
>
> > In negotiations with North Korea, neither the U.S. nor Japan, and
> > certainly not China, ever raise the question of human rights. What's the
> > use? Perhaps our politicians should read Escape from Camp 14.
>
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