funny

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So, when DOJ claims the mandate penalty is a tax tomorrow...

Will you blind supporters call Obambi a LIAR, or a flip flopper?

 

Actually, my money is on, "legal semantics".

 

So you deny its a tax?

 

Absolutely deny

 

POTUS to George Stephanopolous, THRICE!

 

We might be seeing reruns of that interview, a LOT!

 

My dear (I think she is top notch), Cokie Roberts, said yesterday that RomneyCare has been a resounding success.

 

I don't know how you got your name my dear, but NO, It isn't.  Its a fucking DISASTER. 

 

Lets see, how can we make an ongoing disaster worse?

 

Ah ha!  Make it Fed.  Thats the goddamned ticket!

 

Never, as in EVER, fails.

 

 

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Re: The French Whitewash of Muslim on Jew Violence

If you cannot figure out why out matters
---
do you really expect all men to fight the same way? if so, then you're
sitting duck.
different wars require different tactics

this is a war waged by zionists against muzzies ... I'll have nothing
to do with it other than tell everyone, especially our government,
that it's not in the best interests of the USA and that we shouldn't
let zionists in America jeopardize our strength for an old myth

On Mar 26, 12:11 pm, "drob...@comcast.net"<drob...@comcast.net> wrote:
> It doesn't matter?  If you cannot figure out why out matters your lips are just flapping in the breeze.  Poor critical thinking skills will expose a worthless opinion every time.
>
> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
> To: PoliticalForum <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, Mar 26, 2012 16:18:51 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: The French Whitewash of Muslim on Jew Violence
>
> intentionally or just through sloppiness?
> ---
> it doesn't matter
>
> the fact is, zionist xians and jews are out to kill as many muzzies as
> possible.
>
> fund and fight your own wars without US tax dollars and military
> support
>
> On Mar 26, 10:27 am, "drob...@comcast.net"<drob...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Did you leave off the conditional clause "in an attempt to kill the maximum number possible" intentionally or just through sloppiness?
>
> > Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
> > To: PoliticalForum <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
> > Sent: Mon, Mar 26, 2012 14:21:04 GMT+00:00
> > Subject: Re: The French Whitewash of Muslim on Jew Violence
>
> > I am unaware of a single incident in Europe or
> > North America when a non-Muslim attacked Muslims with guns
> > ---
> > HOUSTON -- A Muslim man who was shot in a hate crime following the
> > 9/11 terrorist attacks is calling for forgiveness for his attacker.
>
> > September 11th was a day that would forever change the nation's psyche
> > and it set events in motion that, 10 days later, would forever change
> > Rais Bhuiyan's life.
>
> > Bhuiyan calls September 11th his second birthday.
>
> > "I got my life back," he said.
>
> > Bhuiyan was one of the first hate crime victims in the wake of 9/11.
> > He was shot in the face while working at a Dallas convenience store.
>
> > "He asked me 'Where are you from?' and I said, 'Excuse me?'  As soon
> > as I spoke, I felt the sensation of a million bees stinging my face
> > and I heard an explosion," he said.
>
> > He was white supremacist Mark Stroman, who is set to be executed next
> > month for killing two other men in similar incidents.
>
> > Now in a stunning and some would say inspirational turn of events,
> > Bhuiyan, who lost vision in his right eye because of the attack, has
> > grown to see things in a different light.
>
> > "I forgave Mark Stroman man years ago.  In fact I never hated him.  I
> > never hated America for what happened to me either," he said.
>
> > He, as well as others in the Muslim community and beyond are now
> > pushing to have Stroman's death sentence communed to life without
> > parole.
>
> > "Islam calls us to forgiveness and compassion," said Mustaffa Carroll,
> > with CAIR Texas.
>
> > Bhuiyan said the bigger message here is this is all about passion,
> > forgiveness and healing.
>
> > As the tenth anniversary of 9/11 approaches, he said it's a wake-up
> > call for the conscience of a nation.
>
> > On Mar 26, 5:45 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > --------
>
> > > The French Whitewash of Muslim on Jew Violence
>
> > > Mar 24, 2012
>
> > > By Barry Rubin
>
> > > The murders in Toulouse should be a wake-up call for France. True, the
> > > assaults on Jews and French soldiers were three individual terror attacks
> > > perpetrated. Yet they are among dozens of antisemitic incidents that happen
> > > daily in France and throughout Europe. A big story like the Toulouse attack
> > > can draw attention to a broader, dangerous social trend.
>
> > > Or it can be treated as an isolated incident. Nothing to see here; move
> > > along; go back to sleep. Al-Qaida terrorists don't pull up in front of
> > > Jewish schools to murder teachers and students every day, right?
>
> > > In the past, the mass media could be expected to present a debate on how to
> > > interpret this event but now all too often they give a monopoly to the
> > > whitewashers and the apologists.
>
> > > Phase one is to present any terrorist as a right-wing, neo-Nazi, or
> > > opponent of left-wing policies. If the terrorist is a Muslim, however, his
> > > own explanations—citing dominant interpretations of Islam and the goal of
> > > furthering an Islamist revolution—are ignored. Instead, he or they are
> > > presented as confused, psychologically disturbed individuals; victims of
> > > discrimination; or, in short, anything other than ideologically motivated
> > > revolutionaries.
>
> > > Perhaps the leading "professional" apologist for France in this context is
> > > Justin Vaisse. In an article in Foreign Policy, The "New Normal" in
> > > France?, he claims that Mohamed Merah, the Toulouse terrorist, is sort of a
> > > sad sack character who is merely seeking to take his fate into his own
> > > hands and to emerge as the defender of oppressed Muslims in France. In
> > > other words, he's sort of a combination of self-help fanatic and
> > > crime-fighting superhero.
>
> > > As for France itself, antisemitism is supposedly declining. There's no
> > > problem and few major attacks on Jews. Everything is just fine. No need to
> > > make changes; no need to demand that Muslims teach tolerance and fight
> > > against extremists in their own ranks; no need to provide more protection
> > > for Jewish institutions. And no need for a real soul-searching about the
> > > constant demonization of Israel in the French media and, at times, schools.
>
> > > Is this disgusting? Yes and it's also dangerous. The subhead on the article
> > > tells us the Toulouse attack is merely "a banal and fading version of
> > > extremism."To a Jewish ear, the word "banal" recalls the famous Hannah
> > > Arendt line about the "banality of evil" in the Holocaust, while the word
> > > "fading" means the problem is going away.
>
> > > It so happens that I have met Monsieur Vaisse and discussed these issues
> > > with him. At that time he was an advisor on Islam in the French government.
> > > Vaisse had just written a book saying that there was no real political
> > > problem regarding Muslims in France. The book was quickly translated into
> > > English and published by a prestigious Washington research center.
>
> > > According to Vaisse, the entire difficulty lay with economic and social
> > > issues. The problem was that Muslims were poor and badly treated. If this
> > > were fixed then there would be no radicalism, Islamism, or terrorism.
>
> > > I asked him: Accepting your premise for the moment, why should we possibly
> > > believe that France can solve the economic and social problems involved?
> > > There aren't good jobs; there is no prospect of better housing and higher
> > > living standards. Government regulations discourage entrepreneurship. So in
> > > the context of your worldview, isn't the prospect for more radicalization
> > > and violence?
>
> > > He simply gave no serious answer. And this, I should add, was before the
> > > current international economic crash and the Paris riots.
>
> > > But there's more. A colleague asked Vaisse what sources he used in
> > > composing his study. Only French-language sources, he replied. My
> > > astonished colleague said that nothing could be understood without looking
> > > also at the Arabic material that French Muslims were writing and reading.
> > > In fact, this person added, there was an Arabic-language bookstore within
> > > five minutes' walk of Vaisse's office and we could go there right now and
> > > see the radical, antisemitic child-raising manuals being sold there. These
> > > books, my colleague added, weren't just sitting on the shelves they were
> > > being bought and used.
>
> > > Vaisse showed zero interest in this point.
>
> > > For Vaisse, revolutionary Islamism is simply not a factor of any
> > > importance. While he correctly points out that many French Muslim activists
> > > aren't personally pious in their behavior (drinking alcohol, for example),
> > > this is besides the point. Islamism becomes a form of ethnic nationalism
> > > for them, justifying anti-Jewish and general anti-French actions.
>
> > > In addition, this is no transient "second-generation" phenomenon. For over
> > > time, the radicalism is passed on to the third generation through Islamic
> > > schools, mosques, and indoctrination at home. In effect, France and other
> > > countries are turning themselves into permanently unstable bi-national
> > > states.
>
> > > Incidentally, in the Netherlands—in contrast to France—Jewish groups
> > > successfully protested the sale of these child-raising manuals telling
> > > parents to teach their kids that Jews were evil and should be extirpated.
> > > The Dutch government responded by ordering little strips of white paper be
> > > glued over the offending passages. My host then showed me, with a flick of
> > > his finger, how easily these paste-overs could be removed and the sections
> > > calling for the killing of Jews be read.
>
> > > Now consider this point. I am unaware of a single incident in Europe or
> > > North America when a non-Muslim attacked Muslims with guns or bombs in an
> > > attempt to kill the maximum number possible. Probably, you could find a
> > > couple of such cases but it won't be easy and they won't be many. It is the
> > > Jews who are being targeted as a group by many levels of violence and
> > > intimidation. This is a secret to nobody except Western governments,
> > > "experts," and much of the mass media.
>
> > > I have listened in France to discussions among Jews over what parts of
> > > their cities were still safe to live in and which were too dangerous. The
> > > key factor is whether you are wealthy enough to move away from the threats.
> > > I've heard Jewish parents discussing their kids' traumatic experiences in
> > > the public schools.
>
> > > French Jews are either leaving France or at least buying homes in Israel.
> > > Aside from reports in mostly Jewish media, I know about this because I hear
> > > more French being spoken in Tel Aviv streets. My real estate agent friend
> > > has a growing number of French clients, some of whom leave their families
> > > in Israel and commute to work
>
> ...
>
> read more »

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Re: The French Whitewash of Muslim on Jew Violence

PlainOl'

Does you ass get jealous of the shit you mouth spews?

On 26 March 2012 12:18, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:
> intentionally or just through sloppiness?
> ---
> it doesn't matter
>
> the fact is, zionist xians and jews are out to kill as many muzzies as
> possible.
>
> fund and fight your own wars without US tax dollars and military
> support
>
> On Mar 26, 10:27 am, "drob...@comcast.net"<drob...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Did you leave off the conditional clause "in an attempt to kill the maximum number possible" intentionally or just through sloppiness?
>>
>> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
>> To: PoliticalForum <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Mon, Mar 26, 2012 14:21:04 GMT+00:00
>> Subject: Re: The French Whitewash of Muslim on Jew Violence
>>
>> I am unaware of a single incident in Europe or
>> North America when a non-Muslim attacked Muslims with guns
>> ---
>> HOUSTON -- A Muslim man who was shot in a hate crime following the
>> 9/11 terrorist attacks is calling for forgiveness for his attacker.
>>
>> September 11th was a day that would forever change the nation's psyche
>> and it set events in motion that, 10 days later, would forever change
>> Rais Bhuiyan's life.
>>
>> Bhuiyan calls September 11th his second birthday.
>>
>> "I got my life back," he said.
>>
>> Bhuiyan was one of the first hate crime victims in the wake of 9/11.
>> He was shot in the face while working at a Dallas convenience store.
>>
>> "He asked me 'Where are you from?' and I said, 'Excuse me?'  As soon
>> as I spoke, I felt the sensation of a million bees stinging my face
>> and I heard an explosion," he said.
>>
>> He was white supremacist Mark Stroman, who is set to be executed next
>> month for killing two other men in similar incidents.
>>
>> Now in a stunning and some would say inspirational turn of events,
>> Bhuiyan, who lost vision in his right eye because of the attack, has
>> grown to see things in a different light.
>>
>> "I forgave Mark Stroman man years ago.  In fact I never hated him.  I
>> never hated America for what happened to me either," he said.
>>
>> He, as well as others in the Muslim community and beyond are now
>> pushing to have Stroman's death sentence communed to life without
>> parole.
>>
>> "Islam calls us to forgiveness and compassion," said Mustaffa Carroll,
>> with CAIR Texas.
>>
>> Bhuiyan said the bigger message here is this is all about passion,
>> forgiveness and healing.
>>
>> As the tenth anniversary of 9/11 approaches, he said it's a wake-up
>> call for the conscience of a nation.
>>
>> On Mar 26, 5:45 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > --------
>>
>> > The French Whitewash of Muslim on Jew Violence
>>
>> > Mar 24, 2012
>>
>> > By Barry Rubin
>>
>> > The murders in Toulouse should be a wake-up call for France. True, the
>> > assaults on Jews and French soldiers were three individual terror attacks
>> > perpetrated. Yet they are among dozens of antisemitic incidents that happen
>> > daily in France and throughout Europe. A big story like the Toulouse attack
>> > can draw attention to a broader, dangerous social trend.
>>
>> > Or it can be treated as an isolated incident. Nothing to see here; move
>> > along; go back to sleep. Al-Qaida terrorists don't pull up in front of
>> > Jewish schools to murder teachers and students every day, right?
>>
>> > In the past, the mass media could be expected to present a debate on how to
>> > interpret this event but now all too often they give a monopoly to the
>> > whitewashers and the apologists.
>>
>> > Phase one is to present any terrorist as a right-wing, neo-Nazi, or
>> > opponent of left-wing policies. If the terrorist is a Muslim, however, his
>> > own explanations—citing dominant interpretations of Islam and the goal of
>> > furthering an Islamist revolution—are ignored. Instead, he or they are
>> > presented as confused, psychologically disturbed individuals; victims of
>> > discrimination; or, in short, anything other than ideologically motivated
>> > revolutionaries.
>>
>> > Perhaps the leading "professional" apologist for France in this context is
>> > Justin Vaisse. In an article in Foreign Policy, The "New Normal" in
>> > France?, he claims that Mohamed Merah, the Toulouse terrorist, is sort of a
>> > sad sack character who is merely seeking to take his fate into his own
>> > hands and to emerge as the defender of oppressed Muslims in France. In
>> > other words, he's sort of a combination of self-help fanatic and
>> > crime-fighting superhero.
>>
>> > As for France itself, antisemitism is supposedly declining. There's no
>> > problem and few major attacks on Jews. Everything is just fine. No need to
>> > make changes; no need to demand that Muslims teach tolerance and fight
>> > against extremists in their own ranks; no need to provide more protection
>> > for Jewish institutions. And no need for a real soul-searching about the
>> > constant demonization of Israel in the French media and, at times, schools.
>>
>> > Is this disgusting? Yes and it's also dangerous. The subhead on the article
>> > tells us the Toulouse attack is merely "a banal and fading version of
>> > extremism."To a Jewish ear, the word "banal" recalls the famous Hannah
>> > Arendt line about the "banality of evil" in the Holocaust, while the word
>> > "fading" means the problem is going away.
>>
>> > It so happens that I have met Monsieur Vaisse and discussed these issues
>> > with him. At that time he was an advisor on Islam in the French government.
>> > Vaisse had just written a book saying that there was no real political
>> > problem regarding Muslims in France. The book was quickly translated into
>> > English and published by a prestigious Washington research center.
>>
>> > According to Vaisse, the entire difficulty lay with economic and social
>> > issues. The problem was that Muslims were poor and badly treated. If this
>> > were fixed then there would be no radicalism, Islamism, or terrorism.
>>
>> > I asked him: Accepting your premise for the moment, why should we possibly
>> > believe that France can solve the economic and social problems involved?
>> > There aren't good jobs; there is no prospect of better housing and higher
>> > living standards. Government regulations discourage entrepreneurship. So in
>> > the context of your worldview, isn't the prospect for more radicalization
>> > and violence?
>>
>> > He simply gave no serious answer. And this, I should add, was before the
>> > current international economic crash and the Paris riots.
>>
>> > But there's more. A colleague asked Vaisse what sources he used in
>> > composing his study. Only French-language sources, he replied. My
>> > astonished colleague said that nothing could be understood without looking
>> > also at the Arabic material that French Muslims were writing and reading.
>> > In fact, this person added, there was an Arabic-language bookstore within
>> > five minutes' walk of Vaisse's office and we could go there right now and
>> > see the radical, antisemitic child-raising manuals being sold there. These
>> > books, my colleague added, weren't just sitting on the shelves they were
>> > being bought and used.
>>
>> > Vaisse showed zero interest in this point.
>>
>> > For Vaisse, revolutionary Islamism is simply not a factor of any
>> > importance. While he correctly points out that many French Muslim activists
>> > aren't personally pious in their behavior (drinking alcohol, for example),
>> > this is besides the point. Islamism becomes a form of ethnic nationalism
>> > for them, justifying anti-Jewish and general anti-French actions.
>>
>> > In addition, this is no transient "second-generation" phenomenon. For over
>> > time, the radicalism is passed on to the third generation through Islamic
>> > schools, mosques, and indoctrination at home. In effect, France and other
>> > countries are turning themselves into permanently unstable bi-national
>> > states.
>>
>> > Incidentally, in the Netherlands—in contrast to France—Jewish groups
>> > successfully protested the sale of these child-raising manuals telling
>> > parents to teach their kids that Jews were evil and should be extirpated.
>> > The Dutch government responded by ordering little strips of white paper be
>> > glued over the offending passages. My host then showed me, with a flick of
>> > his finger, how easily these paste-overs could be removed and the sections
>> > calling for the killing of Jews be read.
>>
>> > Now consider this point. I am unaware of a single incident in Europe or
>> > North America when a non-Muslim attacked Muslims with guns or bombs in an
>> > attempt to kill the maximum number possible. Probably, you could find a
>> > couple of such cases but it won't be easy and they won't be many. It is the
>> > Jews who are being targeted as a group by many levels of violence and
>> > intimidation. This is a secret to nobody except Western governments,
>> > "experts," and much of the mass media.
>>
>> > I have listened in France to discussions among Jews over what parts of
>> > their cities were still safe to live in and which were too dangerous. The
>> > key factor is whether you are wealthy enough to move away from the threats.
>> > I've heard Jewish parents discussing their kids' traumatic experiences in
>> > the public schools.
>>
>> > French Jews are either leaving France or at least buying homes in Israel.
>> > Aside from reports in mostly Jewish media, I know about this because I hear
>> > more French being spoken in Tel Aviv streets. My real estate agent friend
>> > has a growing number of French clients, some of whom leave their families
>> > in Israel and commute to work in France. These people know what's actually
>> > going on in France and other countries.
>>
>> > Der Speigel interviews, Daniel Ben-Simon, an expert who explains there are,
>> > "hundreds of anti-Semitic incidents" a year, committed mainly by Arab
>> > immigrants. Indeed, the teacher and his two children murdered in Toulouse
>> > were French Jews who had emigrated to Israel until he had been persuaded to
>> > return to France to work in the school.
>>
>> > So while we will be told to listen to Vaisse and such people, these
>> > reassuring lies have nothing to do with reality.
>>
>> > This is not just a matter of misinformation. Such falsehoods encourage
>> > governments and institutions not to prepare, not to change their ways, not
>> > to learn from bloody experience, to continue denying the very existence of
>> > an antisemitic problem. And that means there will occasionally be more such
>> > tragedies but also hundreds of incitements to antisemitism, blood libels
>> > against Israel, assaults, threats, and other acts of anti-Jewish hatred
>> > that you will never hear about.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> read more »
>
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Trayvon Martin Shooter Told Cops Teenager Went For His Gun

I guess black boys in hoodies holding threatening bags of skittles
candy are "a reasonable belief of a threat" to some racists. How very
sad.

Im memory of Trayvon Martin, I wore my Grey Hoodie, hood up, to do the
grocery marketing, and got a number of stares from white men. One
nearly turned his head around like Linda Blair in The Exorcist as he
passed me. -T

Trayvon Martin Shooter Told Cops Teenager Went For His Gun

George Zimmerman Defense

George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch crime captain who shot dead
17-year-old Trayvon Martin, originally told police in a written
statement that Martin knocked him down with a punch to the nose,
repeatedly slammed his head on the ground and tried to take his gun, a
police source told ABC News.

Zimmerman had claimed he had called police about Martin, whom he found
suspicious, then went back to his car when Martin attacked him,
punching him.

The new information is the most complete version yet of what Zimmerman
claims happened on the night of Feb. 26 when he shot and killed the
teenager.

In addition, an eyewitness, 13-year-old Austin Brown, told police he
saw a man fitting Zimmerman's description lying on the grass moaning
and crying for help just seconds before he heard the gunshot that
killed Martin.

The initial police report noted that Zimmerman was bleeding from the
back of the head and nose, and after medical attention it was decided
that he was in good enough condition to travel in a police cruiser to
the Sanford, Fla., police station for questioning. He was not
arrested.

Martin's girlfriend had said in a recording obtained exclusively by
ABC News that she heard Martin ask Zimmerman "why are your following
me, and then the man asked, what are you doing around here." She then
heard a scuffle break out and the line went dead.

Phone records obtained by ABC News show that the girl, who is 16 and
asked to remain anonymous, called Martin at 7:12 p.m., five minutes
before police arrived, and remained on the phone with Martin until
moments before he was shot.

ABC News has also learned that Martin was staying in Sanford at the
time because he'd been suspended from Krop High School in Miami after
being found with an empty bag of marijuana. He was staying at his
father's fiance's house in Sanford.

Family spokesperson Ryan Julison confirmed to ABC News that Martin was
suspended for an "empty baggy that had contained pot."

"It's irrelevant to what happened on Feb. 26, does not change material
facts of the situation, specifically that had George Zimmerman not
left his vehicle and heeded the police dispatcher's guidance, we
wouldn't be here today," Julison said.

During Zimmerman's call to 911, the dispatcher asked him if he was
following the teen. When Zimmerman replied that he was, the dispatcher
said, "We don't need you to do that."

The new information in the emotionally charged case could complicate
pressing charges against Zimmerman, which one veteran prosecutor has
already said could be difficult.

"The stand-your-ground law is one portion of justifiable use of deadly
force," veteran State Attorney Angela Corey told ABC News. "And what
that means is that the state must go forward and be able to prove it's
case beyond a reasonable doubt… So it makes the case in general more
difficult than a normal criminal case."

Zimmerman shot Martin dead the night of Feb. 26 after following him
for several minutes. Zimmerman told police Martin looked suspicious
because he was wearing a hoodie, and when he confronted him the two
fought -- ultimately resulting in a single bullet in Martin's chest.

Zimmerman claimed self defense and this weekend the lawyer counseling
him, Craig Sonner, told ABC News that he was likely to invoke
Florida's controversial stand-your-ground law in his defense.

Video and more here:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-shooter-teenager-gun/story?id=16000239
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Re: The French Whitewash of Muslim on Jew Violence

It doesn't matter?  If you cannot figure out why out matters your lips are just flapping in the breeze.  Poor critical thinking skills will expose a worthless opinion every time.

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless

-----Original message-----

From: plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com>
To: PoliticalForum <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Mar 26, 2012 16:18:51 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: The French Whitewash of Muslim on Jew Violence

intentionally or just through sloppiness?
---
it doesn't matter

the fact is, zionist xians and jews are out to kill as many muzzies as
possible.

fund and fight your own wars without US tax dollars and military
support

On Mar 26, 10:27 am, "drob...@comcast.net" wrote:
> Did you leave off the conditional clause "in an attempt to kill the maximum number possible" intentionally or just through sloppiness?
>
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> From: plainolamerican
> To: PoliticalForum
> Sent: Mon, Mar 26, 2012 14:21:04 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: The French Whitewash of Muslim on Jew Violence
>
> I am unaware of a single incident in Europe or
> North America when a non-Muslim attacked Muslims with guns
> ---
> HOUSTON -- A Muslim man who was shot in a hate crime following the
> 9/11 terrorist attacks is calling for forgiveness for his attacker.
>
> September 11th was a day that would forever change the nation's psyche
> and it set events in motion that, 10 days later, would forever change
> Rais Bhuiyan's life.
>
> Bhuiyan calls September 11th his second birthday.
>
> "I got my life back," he said.
>
> Bhuiyan was one of the first hate crime victims in the wake of 9/11.
> He was shot in the face while working at a Dallas convenience store.
>
> "He asked me 'Where are you from?' and I said, 'Excuse me?'  As soon
> as I spoke, I felt the sensation of a million bees stinging my face
> and I heard an explosion," he said.
>
> He was white supremacist Mark Stroman, who is set to be executed next
> month for killing two other men in similar incidents.
>
> Now in a stunning and some would say inspirational turn of events,
> Bhuiyan, who lost vision in his right eye because of the attack, has
> grown to see things in a different light.
>
> "I forgave Mark Stroman man years ago.  In fact I never hated him.  I
> never hated America for what happened to me either," he said.
>
> He, as well as others in the Muslim community and beyond are now
> pushing to have Stroman's death sentence communed to life without
> parole.
>
> "Islam calls us to forgiveness and compassion," said Mustaffa Carroll,
> with CAIR Texas.
>
> Bhuiyan said the bigger message here is this is all about passion,
> forgiveness and healing.
>
> As the tenth anniversary of 9/11 approaches, he said it's a wake-up
> call for the conscience of a nation.
>
> On Mar 26, 5:45 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > --------
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> > The French Whitewash of Muslim on Jew Violence
>
> > Mar 24, 2012
>
> > By Barry Rubin
>
> > The murders in Toulouse should be a wake-up call for France. True, the
> > assaults on Jews and French soldiers were three individual terror attacks
> > perpetrated. Yet they are among dozens of antisemitic incidents that happen
> > daily in France and throughout Europe. A big story like the Toulouse attack
> > can draw attention to a broader, dangerous social trend.
>
> > Or it can be treated as an isolated incident. Nothing to see here; move
> > along; go back to sleep. Al-Qaida terrorists don't pull up in front of
> > Jewish schools to murder teachers and students every day, right?
>
> > In the past, the mass media could be expected to present a debate on how to
> > interpret this event but now all too often they give a monopoly to the
> > whitewashers and the apologists.
>
> > Phase one is to present any terrorist as a right-wing, neo-Nazi, or
> > opponent of left-wing policies. If the terrorist is a Muslim, however, his
> > own explanations—citing dominant interpretations of Islam and the goal of
> > furthering an Islamist revolution—are ignored. Instead, he or they are
> > presented as confused, psychologically disturbed individuals; victims of
> > discrimination; or, in short, anything other than ideologically motivated
> > revolutionaries.
>
> > Perhaps the leading "professional" apologist for France in this context is
> > Justin Vaisse. In an article in Foreign Policy, The "New Normal" in
> > France?, he claims that Mohamed Merah, the Toulouse terrorist, is sort of a
> > sad sack character who is merely seeking to take his fate into his own
> > hands and to emerge as the defender of oppressed Muslims in France. In
> > other words, he's sort of a combination of self-help fanatic and
> > crime-fighting superhero.
>
> > As for France itself, antisemitism is supposedly declining. There's no
> > problem and few major attacks on Jews. Everything is just fine. No need to
> > make changes; no need to demand that Muslims teach tolerance and fight
> > against extremists in their own ranks; no need to provide more protection
> > for Jewish institutions. And no need for a real soul-searching about the
> > constant demonization of Israel in the French media and, at times, schools.
>
> > Is this disgusting? Yes and it's also dangerous. The subhead on the article
> > tells us the Toulouse attack is merely "a banal and fading version of
> > extremism."To a Jewish ear, the word "banal" recalls the famous Hannah
> > Arendt line about the "banality of evil" in the Holocaust, while the word
> > "fading" means the problem is going away.
>
> > It so happens that I have met Monsieur Vaisse and discussed these issues
> > with him. At that time he was an advisor on Islam in the French government.
> > Vaisse had just written a book saying that there was no real political
> > problem regarding Muslims in France. The book was quickly translated into
> > English and published by a prestigious Washington research center.
>
> > According to Vaisse, the entire difficulty lay with economic and social
> > issues. The problem was that Muslims were poor and badly treated. If this
> > were fixed then there would be no radicalism, Islamism, or terrorism.
>
> > I asked him: Accepting your premise for the moment, why should we possibly
> > believe that France can solve the economic and social problems involved?
> > There aren't good jobs; there is no prospect of better housing and higher
> > living standards. Government regulations discourage entrepreneurship. So in
> > the context of your worldview, isn't the prospect for more radicalization
> > and violence?
>
> > He simply gave no serious answer. And this, I should add, was before the
> > current international economic crash and the Paris riots.
>
> > But there's more. A colleague asked Vaisse what sources he used in
> > composing his study. Only French-language sources, he replied. My
> > astonished colleague said that nothing could be understood without looking
> > also at the Arabic material that French Muslims were writing and reading.
> > In fact, this person added, there was an Arabic-language bookstore within
> > five minutes' walk of Vaisse's office and we could go there right now and
> > see the radical, antisemitic child-raising manuals being sold there. These
> > books, my colleague added, weren't just sitting on the shelves they were
> > being bought and used.
>
> > Vaisse showed zero interest in this point.
>
> > For Vaisse, revolutionary Islamism is simply not a factor of any
> > importance. While he correctly points out that many French Muslim activists
> > aren't personally pious in their behavior (drinking alcohol, for example),
> > this is besides the point. Islamism becomes a form of ethnic nationalism
> > for them, justifying anti-Jewish and general anti-French actions.
>
> > In addition, this is no transient "second-generation" phenomenon. For over
> > time, the radicalism is passed on to the third generation through Islamic
> > schools, mosques, and indoctrination at home. In effect, France and other
> > countries are turning themselves into permanently unstable bi-national
> > states.
>
> > Incidentally, in the Netherlands—in contrast to France—Jewish groups
> > successfully protested the sale of these child-raising manuals telling
> > parents to teach their kids that Jews were evil and should be extirpated.
> > The Dutch government responded by ordering little strips of white paper be
> > glued over the offending passages. My host then showed me, with a flick of
> > his finger, how easily these paste-overs could be removed and the sections
> > calling for the killing of Jews be read.
>
> > Now consider this point. I am unaware of a single incident in Europe or
> > North America when a non-Muslim attacked Muslims with guns or bombs in an
> > attempt to kill the maximum number possible. Probably, you could find a
> > couple of such cases but it won't be easy and they won't be many. It is the
> > Jews who are being targeted as a group by many levels of violence and
> > intimidation. This is a secret to nobody except Western governments,
> > "experts," and much of the mass media.
>
> > I have listened in France to discussions among Jews over what parts of
> > their cities were still safe to live in and which were too dangerous. The
> > key factor is whether you are wealthy enough to move away from the threats.
> > I've heard Jewish parents discussing their kids' traumatic experiences in
> > the public schools.
>
> > French Jews are either leaving France or at least buying homes in Israel.
> > Aside from reports in mostly Jewish media, I know about this because I hear
> > more French being spoken in Tel Aviv streets. My real estate agent friend
> > has a growing number of French clients, some of whom leave their families
> > in Israel and commute to work in France. These people know what's actually
> > going on in France and other countries.
>
> > Der Speigel interviews, Daniel Ben-Simon, an expert who explains there are,
> > "hundreds of anti-Semitic incidents" a year, committed mainly by Arab
> > immigrants. Indeed, the teacher and his two children murdered in Toulouse
> > were French Jews who had emigrated to Israel until he had been persuaded to
> > return to France to work in the school.
>
> > So while we will be told to listen to Vaisse and such people, these
> > reassuring lies have nothing to do with reality.
>
> > This is not just a matter of misinformation. Such falsehoods encourage
> > governments and institutions not to prepare, not to change their ways, not
> > to learn from bloody experience, to continue denying the very existence of
> > an antisemitic problem. And that means there will occasionally be more such
> > tragedies but also hundreds of incitements to antisemitism, blood libels
> > against Israel, assaults, threats, and other acts of anti-Jewish hatred
> > that you will never hear about.
>
> ...
>
> read more »

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Re: What’s going to happen during 3 days of SCOTUS arguments on health care?

So libbies, whatchya gonna do, when they do?

 

On Monday, March 26, 2012 9:11:51 AM UTC-4, GregfromBoston wrote:

Tomorrow will be the most interesting.  Will the government argue that the individual mandate penalty IS a tax, and since congress has the power to tax, end of story - after the POTUS, and every supporter in congress from Bela Pelosi to Teddy the Lion has emphatically claimed it is NOT a tax?

 

My guess is YES.

 

Oh, and Kagan should recuse, but won't

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Re: **JP** ہوشیار۔ خبردار

اسلام علیکم
جناب واقعی یہ بہت افسوس نا ک بلکہ خوفنا ک صورتحال ہوگی ہم سب کو آگاہ ہو نا چا ہےتا کہ ہم اس مصیبت سے بچ سکیں ۔اللہ ہمارے پا کستا ن کو اس نئے عذاب سے بچا ئے آمین
خوش رہیں عینی نیازی

2012/3/26 shaukat ali <samuzzaffar@gmail.com>

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plz fwd this pakge (raleted your's ne

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Rick Santorum Projects Tired Old Karl Rove-Dick Cheney GOP Fear Mongering

Rick Santorum Projects Tired Old Karl Rove-Dick Cheney GOP Fear Mongering

WATCH: Santorum's Doomsday Video
By Michelle Garcia

Rick Santorum's campaign has released a new video which describes an
America after the re-election of Barack Obama.

John Bradbender, the Santorum campaign strategist who produced the
video, told the New York Timesthat "Obamaville" is a teaser for an
eight-part series of short clips, depicting Santorum's view on how
America could be destroyed if Obama remains president. The trailer
depicts the end of religious freedom, suicide-inducing gas prices, and
warns that Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will wreak havoc on
the country.

"If this scares a few people and even if they say it's over the top,
maybe they want to learn more," Bradbender said. "It would be a
mistake on our part if we weren't sounding an alarm in a sensational
way."

Watch the video below:

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2012/03/25/WATCH_Santorums_Doomsday_Video/

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GLAAD Awards Winners: Smash Producers, Pariah, Lady Gaga, NY Times, Advocate and Out

GLAAD Toasts to Smash Producers, Pariah, Lady Gaga, Advocate and Out
By Michelle Garcia

The feature film Pariah and ABC's Dancing with the Stars were awarded
with Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation awards on Saturday
night in New York.

Smash producers Craig Zadan & Neil Meron received the prestigious Vito
Russo Award, presented to them by Bernadette Peters and John Stamos.
Hollywood mogul Harvey Weinstein honored openly gay 17-year-old
anti-bullying advocate, Katy Butler, who has been lobbying the Motion
Picture Association of America to lower the rating for the documentary
Bully, so younger people may view it. Dee Rees's coming-of-age feature
Pariah, starring Adepero Oduye and Kim Wayans, won outstanding feature
film while Dancing With The Stars won outstanding reality television
program. The Advocate and Out also shared a win for outstanding
overall magazine coverage. The event was hosted by Glee's Cory
Monteith and Naya Rivera.

Additional categories will be presented at the GLAAD Media Awards in
Los Angeles on April 21 and in San Francisco on June 2.

Also, check out video highlights of the event below.

The following is a list of all other award recipients announced at the
23rd Annual GLAAD Media Awards in New York.
- Outstanding TV Journalism Segment: "Battle Against Bullying" ABC
World News with Diane Sawyer (ABC) [accepted by: reporter Josh
Elliott]
- Outstanding Magazine Article: TIE: "15th Anniversary of the Passage
of the Defense of Marriage Act" (series) by Chris Geidner (Metro
Weekly) [accepted by: Chris Geidner] and "Black & Gay in Corporate
America" by Carolyn M. Brown (Black Enterprise) [accepted by: Carolyn
M. Brown]
- Outstanding TV Movie Or Mini Series: Cinema Verite (HBO)
- Outstanding Talk Show Episode: "Coming Out on the Oprah Show: 25
Years of Unforgettable Guests" The Oprah Winfrey Show (syndicated)
- Outstanding TV Journalism - Newsmagazine: "The 'Sissy Boy'
Experiments" Anderson Cooper 360 (CNN)
- Outstanding Newspaper Article: "Led by the Child Who Simply Knew" by
Bella English (The Boston Globe)
- Outstanding Newspaper Columnist: Frank Bruni (The New York Times)
- Outstanding Newspaper Overall Coverage: The New York Times
- Outstanding Magazine Overall Coverage: The Advocate/Out
- Outstanding Digital Journalism-Multimedia: "Injustice at Every Turn"
(ITLMedia.org)
- Outstanding Blog: TIE: Mombian and Towleroad
- Outstanding Music Artist: Lady Gaga, Born This Way (Interscope Records)
- Outstanding Comic Book: Batwoman by J.H. Williams III and W. Haden
Blackman (DC Comics)
- Outstanding Los Angeles Theatre: No Word in Guyanese for Me by Wendy Graf
- Outstanding New York Theatre: Broadway & Off Broadway: The
Intelligent Homosexual's Guide to Capitalism and Socialism with a Key
to the Scriptures by Tony Kushner
- Outstanding New York Theatre: Off-Off Broadway: Southern Comfort
book and lyrics by Dan Collins, music by Julianne Wick Davis

SPANISH-LANGUAGE

- Outstanding Daytime Talk Show Episode: "Lesbianas celebran 10 años"
Caso Cerrado (Telemundo)
- Outstanding Talk Show Interview: "Entrevista con Raquel Gómez y Mony
Ruiz Velasco" Al Punto (Univision)
- Outstanding TV Journalism - Newsmagazine: "Asesino" Primer Impacto (Univision)
- Outstanding TV Journalism Segment: "Ángeles del cambio" Noticiero 34
(KMEX TV-34 [Los Angeles, Calif.])
- Outstanding Newspaper Article: TIE: "Casamiento e hijos biológicos
para pareja gay hispana de EEUU" by Claudia Torrens ( Associated
Press) and "Madre hay una sola, no necesariamente" by Virginia
Gaglianone (La Opinión)
- Outstanding Magazine Article: "Nueva York la igualdad" by Michelle
Oyola (People en Español)
- Outstanding Digital Journalism Article: "Las 7 señales de un niño
transgénero" by Paula Andalo (Univision.com)
- Outstanding Music Artist: Ricky Martin, Música + Alma + Sexo (Sony
Music Latin)
- Special Recognition: El Diario la Prensa

More:
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2012/03/25/GLAAD_Toasts_to_Smash_Producers_Pariah_Lady_Gaga_and_Advocate/

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Why Barack Obama is the More Effective Evil

"He has been more effective in Evil-Doing than Bush in terms of protecting the citadels of corporate power, and advancing the imperial agenda. He has put both Wall Street and U.S. imperial power on new and more aggressive tracks -- just as he hired himself out to do."

Why Barack Obama is the More Effective Evil
March 25, 2012

Dear Readers: This is the best speech I have come across in many years. PCR

Original Content at http://www.opednews.com/articles/Why-Barack-Obama-is-the-Mo-by-Glen-Ford-120324-930.html

No matter how much evil Barack Obama actually accomplishes during his presidency, people that call themselves leftists insist on dubbing him the Lesser Evil. Not only is Obama not given proper credit for out-evil-ing George Bush, domestically and internationally, but the First Black President is awarded positive grades for his intentions versus the presumed intentions of Republicans. As the author says, this "is psycho-babble, not analysis. No real Left would engage in it."


Glen Ford at the Left Forum

BAR executive editor Glen Ford made the following presentation at the Left Forum, Pace University, New York City, March 17. On the panel were Gloria Mattera, Margaret Kimberley (BAR), Suren Moodliar, John Nichols, and Victor Wallis. The discussion was titled, The 2012 Elections: Lesser Evil or Left Alternative?

"He has put both Wall Street and U.S. imperial power on new and more aggressive tracks -- just as he hired himself out to do."


Power to the people!

Let me say from the very beginning that we at Black Agenda Report do not think that Barack Obama is the Lesser Evil. He is the more Effective Evil.

He has been more effective in Evil-Doing than Bush in terms of protecting the citadels of corporate power, and advancing the imperial agenda. He has put both Wall Street and U.S. imperial power on new and more aggressive tracks -- just as he hired himself out to do.

That was always Wall Street's expectation of Obama, and his promise to them. That's why they gave him far more money in 2008 than they gave John McCain. They were buying Obama futures on the electoral political market -- and they made out like bandits.

They invested in Obama to protect them from harm, as a hedge against the risk of systemic disaster caused by their own predations. And, it was a good bet, a good deal. It paid out in the tens of trillions of dollars.

If you believe that what Wall Street does is Evil, then Obama's service to Wall Street is Evil, and there is nothing lesser about it.

They had vetted Obama, thoroughly, before he even set foot in the U.S. Senate in 2004.

He protected their interests, there, helping shield corporations from class action suits, and voting against caps on credit card interest. He was their guy back then -- and some of us were saying so, back then.

He was the bankers' guy in the Democratic presidential primary race. Among the last three standing in 2008, it was Obama who opposed any moratorium on home foreclosures. John Edwards supported a mandatory moratorium and Hillary Clinton said she wanted a voluntary halt to foreclosures. But Barack Obama opposed any moratorium. Let it run its course, said candidate Obama. And, true to his word, he has let the foreclosures run their catastrophic course.

Only a few months later, when the crunch came and Finance Capital was in meltdown, who rescued Wall Street? Not George Bush. Bush tried, but he was spent, discredited, ineffective. Not John McCain. He was in a coma, coming unglued, totally ineffective.

Bush's bailout failed on a Monday. By Friday, Obama had convinced enough Democrats in opposition to roll over -- and the bailout passed, setting the stage for a new dispensation between the American State and Wall Street, in which a permanent pipeline of tens of trillions of dollars would flow directly into Wall Street accounts, via the Federal Reserve.

And Obama had not even been elected yet.

"True to his word, he has let the foreclosures run their catastrophic course."

Obama put Social Security and Medicaid and all Entitlements on the table , in mid-January. The Republicans had suffered resounding defeat. Nobody was pressuring Obama from the Right.

When the Right was on its ass, Obama stood up and spoke in their stead. There was no Evil Devil forcing him to put Entitlements on the chopping block. It was HIM. He was the Evil One -- and it was not a Lesser Evil. It was a very Effective Evil, because the current Age of Austerity began on that day, in January, 2009.

And Obama had not even been sworn in as president, yet.

Who is the Effective Evil? I haven't even gotten into his actual term as president, much less his expansion of the theaters of war, his unique assaults on International Law, and his massacre of Due Process of Law in the United States. But I want to pause right here, because piling up facts on Obama's Most Effective Evils doesn't seem to do any good if the prevailing conversation isn't really about facts ­ but about intentions .

The prevailing assumption on the Left is that Obama has good intentions. He intends to the Right Thing -- or, at least, he intends to do better than the Republicans intend to do. It's all supposed to be about intentions. Let's be clear: There is absolutely no factual basis to believe he intends to do anything other than the same thing he has already done, whether Democrats control Congress or not, which is to serve Wall Street's most fundamental interests.

But, the whole idea of debating Obama's intentions is ridiculous. It's psycho-babble, not analysis. No real Left would engage in it.

I have no doubt that Newt Gingrich and Republicans in general have worse intentions for the future of my people -- of Black people -- than Michelle Obama's husband does. But, that doesn't matter. Black people are not going to roll over for whatever nightmarish Apocalypse the sick mind of Newt Gingrich would like to bring about. But, they have already rolled over for Obama's economic Apocalypse in Black America. There was been very little resistance. Which is just another way of saying that Obama has successfully blunted any retribution by organized African America against the corporate powers that have devastated and destabilized Black America in ways that have little precedence in modern times.

"When the Right was on its ass, Obama stood up and spoke in their stead."

Obama has protected these Wall Streeters from what should be the most righteous wrath of Black folks. To take a riff from Shakespeare's Othello, "Obama has done Wall Street a great service, and they know it." He has proven to be fantastically effective at serving the Supremely Evil. Don't you dare call him the Lesser.

He is the More Effective Evil because Black Folks -- historically, the most progressive cohort in the United States -- and Liberals, and even lots of folks that call themselves Marxists, let him get away murder! Yet, people still insist on calling him a Lesser Evil, while he drives a stake through Due Process of Law.

I have not spoken much about the second half of Obama's first term in office. That is the period when the Left generally becomes disgusted with what they call his excessive "compromises" and "cave-ins" to Republicans. But that is a profoundly wrong reading of reality. Obama was simply continuing down his own Road to Austerity -- the one he, himself, had initiated before even taking office. The only person caving in and compromising to the Republicans, was the Obama that many of YOU made up in your heads.

The real Obama was the initiator of this Austerity nightmare -- a nightmare scripted on Wall Street, which provided the core of Obama's policy team from the very beginning. That's why Obama's so-called Financial Reform was so diligent in making sure that Derivatives were virtually untouched.

The real Obama retained Bush's Secretary of War, because he was determined to re-package the imperial enterprise and expand the scope and theaters of war.
He would dress up the war machine head-to-foot in a Chador of Humanitarianism, and march deep and deeper into Africa.

He would make merciless and totally unprovoked war against Libya -- and then tell Congress there had been no war at all, and it was none of their business, anyway.
And he got away with it.

Now, that is the Most Effective Evil war mongering imaginable. Don't you dare call him a Lesser Evil. Obama is Awesomely Evil.

"The real Obama was the initiator of this Austerity nightmare."

Obama has advanced the corporatization of the public schools beyond Bush's wildest dreams, methodically constructing a national, parallel system of charter schools that, in practice, undermine and subvert the traditional public schools. In some places, they have replaced, or soon will replace, the public schools. The hedge funds and billionaires are ecstatic! The teachers unions then endorse their undertaker, foolishly believing he is the Lesser Evil.

So, what does the Left do in this election? The Left should do what it is supposed to do here in the Belly of the Beast at all times : disarm the Beast. This is their singular duty -- not to advise the Beast, but to disarm it. At this time on the world historical clock, that means ripping the farcical "humanitarian" veil from the face of U.S. wars -- and that face is Obama's face.

No genuine anti-war activist can endorse the war-maker, Obama. If you want to resist actual imperial wars, you must fight Obama. Period. Anything else is to endorse or acquiesce in his wars.

You can attend the United National Anti-War Coalition conference in Stamford, Connecticut, next weekend, where you can meet with an array of organizations to begin a calendar of activities that will stretch past Election Day. You can join with UNAC in working to stop Obama from doing a repeat of Libya in Syria and Iran. If you can't bring yourself to do that, then I have no advice for you, because the alternative is acquiescence to Obama's cynical duplicities.

If the Green Party or any other party firmly opposes Obama's humanitarian, Orwellian farce, then support them. If they don't, then don't lift a finger for them.
If you are going to fight for anything, you've got to fight for the right to fight. That means fighting for the rule of law. So, if you don't plan to go underground or into exile anytime soon, you must fight the president who claims the right to imprison or kill any person, of any nationality, any place on Earth, for reasons known only to him. The man who excelled George Bush by shepherding preventive detention through Congress -- Barack Obama, the More Effective Evil.

Fight him this election year. Fight him every year that he's here.

Power to the People!

Submitters Website: www.BlackAgendaReport.com

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Glen Ford is a 37-year veteran of Black radio, television, print and Internet news and commentary. He is executive editor of BlackAgendaReport.com and was co-founder of BlackCommentator.com

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Re: The French Whitewash of Muslim on Jew Violence

intentionally or just through sloppiness?
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it doesn't matter

the fact is, zionist xians and jews are out to kill as many muzzies as
possible.

fund and fight your own wars without US tax dollars and military
support

On Mar 26, 10:27 am, "drob...@comcast.net"<drob...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Did you leave off the conditional clause "in an attempt to kill the maximum number possible" intentionally or just through sloppiness?
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> -----Original message-----
> From: plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
> To: PoliticalForum <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, Mar 26, 2012 14:21:04 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: The French Whitewash of Muslim on Jew Violence
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> I am unaware of a single incident in Europe or
> North America when a non-Muslim attacked Muslims with guns
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> HOUSTON -- A Muslim man who was shot in a hate crime following the
> 9/11 terrorist attacks is calling for forgiveness for his attacker.
>
> September 11th was a day that would forever change the nation's psyche
> and it set events in motion that, 10 days later, would forever change
> Rais Bhuiyan's life.
>
> Bhuiyan calls September 11th his second birthday.
>
> "I got my life back," he said.
>
> Bhuiyan was one of the first hate crime victims in the wake of 9/11.
> He was shot in the face while working at a Dallas convenience store.
>
> "He asked me 'Where are you from?' and I said, 'Excuse me?'  As soon
> as I spoke, I felt the sensation of a million bees stinging my face
> and I heard an explosion," he said.
>
> He was white supremacist Mark Stroman, who is set to be executed next
> month for killing two other men in similar incidents.
>
> Now in a stunning and some would say inspirational turn of events,
> Bhuiyan, who lost vision in his right eye because of the attack, has
> grown to see things in a different light.
>
> "I forgave Mark Stroman man years ago.  In fact I never hated him.  I
> never hated America for what happened to me either," he said.
>
> He, as well as others in the Muslim community and beyond are now
> pushing to have Stroman's death sentence communed to life without
> parole.
>
> "Islam calls us to forgiveness and compassion," said Mustaffa Carroll,
> with CAIR Texas.
>
> Bhuiyan said the bigger message here is this is all about passion,
> forgiveness and healing.
>
> As the tenth anniversary of 9/11 approaches, he said it's a wake-up
> call for the conscience of a nation.
>
> On Mar 26, 5:45 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > The French Whitewash of Muslim on Jew Violence
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> > Mar 24, 2012
>
> > By Barry Rubin
>
> > The murders in Toulouse should be a wake-up call for France. True, the
> > assaults on Jews and French soldiers were three individual terror attacks
> > perpetrated. Yet they are among dozens of antisemitic incidents that happen
> > daily in France and throughout Europe. A big story like the Toulouse attack
> > can draw attention to a broader, dangerous social trend.
>
> > Or it can be treated as an isolated incident. Nothing to see here; move
> > along; go back to sleep. Al-Qaida terrorists don't pull up in front of
> > Jewish schools to murder teachers and students every day, right?
>
> > In the past, the mass media could be expected to present a debate on how to
> > interpret this event but now all too often they give a monopoly to the
> > whitewashers and the apologists.
>
> > Phase one is to present any terrorist as a right-wing, neo-Nazi, or
> > opponent of left-wing policies. If the terrorist is a Muslim, however, his
> > own explanations—citing dominant interpretations of Islam and the goal of
> > furthering an Islamist revolution—are ignored. Instead, he or they are
> > presented as confused, psychologically disturbed individuals; victims of
> > discrimination; or, in short, anything other than ideologically motivated
> > revolutionaries.
>
> > Perhaps the leading "professional" apologist for France in this context is
> > Justin Vaisse. In an article in Foreign Policy, The "New Normal" in
> > France?, he claims that Mohamed Merah, the Toulouse terrorist, is sort of a
> > sad sack character who is merely seeking to take his fate into his own
> > hands and to emerge as the defender of oppressed Muslims in France. In
> > other words, he's sort of a combination of self-help fanatic and
> > crime-fighting superhero.
>
> > As for France itself, antisemitism is supposedly declining. There's no
> > problem and few major attacks on Jews. Everything is just fine. No need to
> > make changes; no need to demand that Muslims teach tolerance and fight
> > against extremists in their own ranks; no need to provide more protection
> > for Jewish institutions. And no need for a real soul-searching about the
> > constant demonization of Israel in the French media and, at times, schools.
>
> > Is this disgusting? Yes and it's also dangerous. The subhead on the article
> > tells us the Toulouse attack is merely "a banal and fading version of
> > extremism."To a Jewish ear, the word "banal" recalls the famous Hannah
> > Arendt line about the "banality of evil" in the Holocaust, while the word
> > "fading" means the problem is going away.
>
> > It so happens that I have met Monsieur Vaisse and discussed these issues
> > with him. At that time he was an advisor on Islam in the French government.
> > Vaisse had just written a book saying that there was no real political
> > problem regarding Muslims in France. The book was quickly translated into
> > English and published by a prestigious Washington research center.
>
> > According to Vaisse, the entire difficulty lay with economic and social
> > issues. The problem was that Muslims were poor and badly treated. If this
> > were fixed then there would be no radicalism, Islamism, or terrorism.
>
> > I asked him: Accepting your premise for the moment, why should we possibly
> > believe that France can solve the economic and social problems involved?
> > There aren't good jobs; there is no prospect of better housing and higher
> > living standards. Government regulations discourage entrepreneurship. So in
> > the context of your worldview, isn't the prospect for more radicalization
> > and violence?
>
> > He simply gave no serious answer. And this, I should add, was before the
> > current international economic crash and the Paris riots.
>
> > But there's more. A colleague asked Vaisse what sources he used in
> > composing his study. Only French-language sources, he replied. My
> > astonished colleague said that nothing could be understood without looking
> > also at the Arabic material that French Muslims were writing and reading.
> > In fact, this person added, there was an Arabic-language bookstore within
> > five minutes' walk of Vaisse's office and we could go there right now and
> > see the radical, antisemitic child-raising manuals being sold there. These
> > books, my colleague added, weren't just sitting on the shelves they were
> > being bought and used.
>
> > Vaisse showed zero interest in this point.
>
> > For Vaisse, revolutionary Islamism is simply not a factor of any
> > importance. While he correctly points out that many French Muslim activists
> > aren't personally pious in their behavior (drinking alcohol, for example),
> > this is besides the point. Islamism becomes a form of ethnic nationalism
> > for them, justifying anti-Jewish and general anti-French actions.
>
> > In addition, this is no transient "second-generation" phenomenon. For over
> > time, the radicalism is passed on to the third generation through Islamic
> > schools, mosques, and indoctrination at home. In effect, France and other
> > countries are turning themselves into permanently unstable bi-national
> > states.
>
> > Incidentally, in the Netherlands—in contrast to France—Jewish groups
> > successfully protested the sale of these child-raising manuals telling
> > parents to teach their kids that Jews were evil and should be extirpated.
> > The Dutch government responded by ordering little strips of white paper be
> > glued over the offending passages. My host then showed me, with a flick of
> > his finger, how easily these paste-overs could be removed and the sections
> > calling for the killing of Jews be read.
>
> > Now consider this point. I am unaware of a single incident in Europe or
> > North America when a non-Muslim attacked Muslims with guns or bombs in an
> > attempt to kill the maximum number possible. Probably, you could find a
> > couple of such cases but it won't be easy and they won't be many. It is the
> > Jews who are being targeted as a group by many levels of violence and
> > intimidation. This is a secret to nobody except Western governments,
> > "experts," and much of the mass media.
>
> > I have listened in France to discussions among Jews over what parts of
> > their cities were still safe to live in and which were too dangerous. The
> > key factor is whether you are wealthy enough to move away from the threats.
> > I've heard Jewish parents discussing their kids' traumatic experiences in
> > the public schools.
>
> > French Jews are either leaving France or at least buying homes in Israel.
> > Aside from reports in mostly Jewish media, I know about this because I hear
> > more French being spoken in Tel Aviv streets. My real estate agent friend
> > has a growing number of French clients, some of whom leave their families
> > in Israel and commute to work in France. These people know what's actually
> > going on in France and other countries.
>
> > Der Speigel interviews, Daniel Ben-Simon, an expert who explains there are,
> > "hundreds of anti-Semitic incidents" a year, committed mainly by Arab
> > immigrants. Indeed, the teacher and his two children murdered in Toulouse
> > were French Jews who had emigrated to Israel until he had been persuaded to
> > return to France to work in the school.
>
> > So while we will be told to listen to Vaisse and such people, these
> > reassuring lies have nothing to do with reality.
>
> > This is not just a matter of misinformation. Such falsehoods encourage
> > governments and institutions not to prepare, not to change their ways, not
> > to learn from bloody experience, to continue denying the very existence of
> > an antisemitic problem. And that means there will occasionally be more such
> > tragedies but also hundreds of incitements to antisemitism, blood libels
> > against Israel, assaults, threats, and other acts of anti-Jewish hatred
> > that you will never hear about.
>
> ...
>
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Who Was the Real Thomas Jefferson?

Who Was the Real Thomas Jefferson?
by Thomas E. Woods Jr., Posted March 26, 2012

Liberty, State, & Union: The Political Theory of Thomas Jefferson by Luigi Marco Bassani
(Macon, Ga.: Mercer University Press, 2010); 277 pages.

No one doubts that our understanding of historical figures may need to be revisited from time to time. But academic specialists have been known to overreach. To portray a historical figure in a light exactly opposed to the popular impression and to how all other scholars have viewed him is far more exciting than repeating the boring conventional wisdom. And if you can contrive a case that an admired statesman from history actually supported your own views after all, all the better.

Poor Thomas Jefferson has suffered this kind of treatment at the hands of countless historians, and Marco Bassani, a scholar of the history of political thought, will have none of it. Bassani, an American-born professor teaching at the University of Milan, takes ruthless aim at what has been called the "scholars' Jefferson," who bears scant resemblance to the classical liberal figure of the popular mind. Jefferson is one of those cases in which ­ in terms of his views on property, states' rights, the Union, political majorities, and the Constitution ­ the earlier, conventional view was in fact the correct one. Bassani's wide-ranging knowledge of Jefferson scholarship serves him well in Liberty, State, & Union, as he carefully describes and then refutes the competing schools of thought.

He begins with the controversy over "republicanism" and "liberalism" that erupted among historians of early America in the latter half of the 20th century. The "republican" consensus that developed sought to downplay, and even to dismiss altogether, the role of classical liberalism in the tradition of John Locke from the formative influences of the revolutionary generation. In its place they substituted an ideology called "republicanism."

In colloquial usage, "republican" might be used to describe those who merely support a republican form of government, but that is not what the republican school had in mind. The republicanism those historians postulated was a full-fledged counter-philosophy that was said to describe the thinking of the revolutionary generation more faithfully than the limited-government classical liberalism everyone had thought to be at the center of early American thought. Republicanism, so formulated, placed the locus of true liberty and fulfillment not in the individual, private pursuit of one's ends, but in active participation in the res publica. The strict limitation of government power to the protection of person and property is not the central concern of the "republican" as it is of the classical liberal.

Bassani traces the path by which this interpretation of the revolutionary generation grew to the point that it came to dominate the profession, eclipsing rival versions of the revolutionary outlook and excluding Locke and natural law altogether.

The new consensus, in turn, tried to force the square peg of Thomas Jefferson into the round hole of "republicanism." Jefferson, it turned out, was no classical liberal after all; he, too, was a "republican." J.G.A. Pocock, the founder of the republican school, even tried to portray the Declaration of Independence as a document devoid of Lockean influences. Hannah Arendt, who anticipated many of the themes of the republican school, referred to the ward system that Jefferson spelled out in 1816 (in which most decisions would be made at the level of the ward, a part of a city) as evidence that he considered civic participation to be the highest source of human fulfillment. "The basic assumption of the ward system," she argued, "whether Jefferson knew it or not[!], was that no one could be called happy without his share in public happiness, that no one could be called free without his experience in public freedom, and that no one could be called either happy or free without participating, and having a share in, public power."

Forcing Jefferson of all people into this mold is no easy task, and all such efforts have been ludicrously strained. His political thought is certainly not centered on "republicanism," as understood by those historians. To the contrary, observes Bassani, Jefferson "spent his whole life on the reflection upon the best mechanism to curb and oppose the concentration of political power, both of government against individuals and of the union against the states." Little wonder that in recent years the historiographical pendulum has at last begun to swing the other way.

Private property

Some scholars have even called into question Jefferson's commitment to private property in the tradition of Locke. That effort seems doomed from the start. "Locke's little book on government [which includes a section on the natural right of property] is perfect as far as it goes," Jefferson said. He had in fact been accused of plagiarizing Locke's Second Treatise in the text of the Declaration of Independence: "There are certain principles in which all agree, and which all cherish as vitally essential to the protection of life, liberty, property, and the safety of the citizen." Jefferson likewise wrote that "a right to property is founded in our natural wants, in the means with which we are endowed to satisfy these wants, and the right to what we acquire by those means without violating the similar rights of other sensible beings." He added in 1816, "To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, 'the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry, and the fruits acquired by it.'" Toward the end of his life, Jefferson remarked, "As to the general principles of liberty and the rights of man, in nature and in society, the doctrines of Locke, in his 'Essay concerning the true original extent and end of civil government' and of Sidney in his 'Discourses on government,' may be considered as those generally approved by our fellow citizens of [Virginia], and the United States."

Those who would question the view of Jefferson as a Lockean natural-rights theorist on property contend that he viewed property not as a natural right that may never be curtailed, but as a purely conventional right that individuals enjoy at the sufferance of the community. One way of advancing that claim is by making an argument from omission: in the Declaration of Independence, such critics point out, Jefferson substituted "pursuit of happiness" for "property" in the familiar triad of "life, liberty, and property." That is supposed to indicate that Jefferson wished to remove property from the list of rights man enjoys by nature. Bassani takes on that argument convincingly, providing an impressive body of evidence showing that the enjoyment of property was one of the indispensable ingredients of a truly happy human life.

In order to posit any other Jefferson, revisionist scholars would have to produce a comparable body of statements to the contrary, or show why every existing statement in which Jefferson appears to describe property as a natural right must be given the opposite meaning. That, needless to say, they have not done. "The burden of proof," writes Bassani, "lies with those who espouse the bizarre picture of a champion of Lockean natural rights ­ considered by his contemporaries as the most representative of the ideas of an entire generation steeped in natural law tradition ­ denying property as a natural right. And the clinching evidence is lacking."

The compact theory

On the Constitution, Bassani acknowledges that Jefferson did endorse the work of the Philadelphia Convention ­ with reservations ­ but finds that his enthusiasm has been exaggerated. Jefferson spoke favorably of the Articles of Confederation, telling a correspondent that "the Confederation is a wonderfully perfect instrument, considering the circumstances under which it was formed." In November 1787, two months after the Philadelphia Convention had completed its work, Jefferson confided to John Adams that "all the good of this new constitution might have been couched in three or four new articles to be added to the good, old and venerable fabrick, which should have been preserved even as a religious relique."

To assess Jefferson's endorsement of the Constitution we need to bear in mind the very limited consequences that its ratification entailed in his view. In an era in which "Tenther" (i.e., a supporter of the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution) has, absurdly enough, become a term of derision, Jefferson's approach to the Union is a splash of cold water:

The true theory of our constitution is surely the wisest & best, that the states are independent as to everything within themselves, & united as to everything respecting foreign nations. Let the general government be reduced to foreign concerns only, and let our affairs be disentangled from those of all other nations, except as to commerce, which the merchants will manage the better, the more they are left free to manage for themselves, and our general government may be reduced to a very simple organization, & a very unexpensive one; a few plain duties to be performed by a few servants....

That, in turn, brings us to Bassani's discussion of states' rights, the topic on which Jefferson's thought seems to elicit the greatest consternation among purveyors of fashionable opinion today. ("States' rights," a phrase Jefferson himself used, is of course a shorthand term; Jefferson understood as well as anyone that states do not have rights in the sense that individuals do.) Jefferson was a principal architect of the compact theory of the Union, which conceives of the United States as a collection of self-governing, sovereign communities (the states). (More precisely, it is the peoples of the states who are sovereign; no government is sovereign in the American system.)

Those communities, according to the compact theory, have not forfeited their sovereignty by delegating a portion of their sovereign powers to a central government that is to act as their agent. The sovereign peoples of the states are exercising their sovereign powers when they apportion tasks among the state governments, the federal government, and themselves. They remain just as sovereign as before.

That it is the peoples of the states (often referred to in shorthand merely as "the states"), rather than an American people in the aggregate, who are sovereign is evident from history. The colonies-turned-states declared their independence from Britain as thirteen "Free and Independent States" that had "full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do." The British acknowledged the independence of those states by naming them individually. Article II of the Articles of Confederation declared, "Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence"; the states must have had that sovereignty to begin with in order to retain it in 1781, when the Articles officially took effect. And when the Constitution was to be ratified, it was ratified by each state separately, not in a single national vote. This simple historical overview establishes a very strong prima facie case that the states remained sovereign and were never collapsed into a single whole.

What that meant for Jefferson and many of the thinkers who followed in his footsteps was that in the last resort the states, the constituent parts (and creators) of the Union, had to have the power of nullification, the refusal to allow the enforcement of unconstitutional federal laws within their borders. When a conflict arises as to whether a particular power was delegated to the federal government or reserved to the states, the states must be the ultimate judges; they are the proper disputants in such a case. It would be logically backward for the principals to ask their agent whether that agent was intended to have a particular power.

The states need some kind of defense mechanism by which they can prevent the federal government from destroying the very system they themselves created. (James Madison insists on this point in his famous Report of 1800.) When the delegated powers are abused, recourse may be had to ordinary political remedies. But when the federal government exercises powers not delegated to it, a more direct and immediate response from the states is called for.

According to Bassani, the Kentucky Resolutions of 1798, which vindicate the compact theory ­ and which countless historians have tried to run away from ­ contain "the whole of [Jefferson's] theory of the federal union." Jefferson's draft even contained the word "nullification," which was later removed by a skittish legislature; it would later appear in the Kentucky Resolutions of 1799. It is exceedingly rare to encounter a historian or a political philosopher who approaches this document or its decentralist ideas with sympathy, so entrenched is nationalism in the popular mind. The usual response is to try to explain away Jefferson's position, downplay its significance, or portray it in an absurd light, often raising objections against it that Jefferson himself answered. Bassani, to the contrary, gives us one of the best short overviews of Jefferson's view of the states and the federal government readers are likely to encounter.

Although a popular audience can learn a great deal from Liberty, State, & Union, readers should understand that Bassani is looking to do much more than merely present the real Jefferson to interested laymen. He is seeking to overturn competing schools of thought on Jefferson that have emerged over the years, and he does so in careful and systematic fashion. In navigating the thickets of recent scholarship and uncovering the real Thomas Jefferson, Bassani is an outstanding guide.

Thomas E. Woods Jr. is the New York Times bestselling author of 11 books, most recently Rollback: Repealing Big Government before the Coming Fiscal Collapse and Nullification: How to Resist Federal Tyranny in the 21st Century. See his website: www.TomWoods.com.

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