Wednesday, October 5, 2011

The Budget Mess: A Crisis in Legitimacy


The Budget Mess: A Crisis in Legitimacy
by Sheldon Richman, Posted October 5, 2011

Reality has finally caught up with the ruling elite, and its members inside and outside of government are in a panic. They have freely spent the taxpayers' money for generations, building a corporatist warfare-welfare state, and when that wasn't enough to finance their projects, they borrowed just as freely. For a long while it paid off handsomely in power and wealth, but now even they realize things can't go on as they have for so long.

This fiscal year the government will spend $3.8 trillion, more than 40 percent of which will be borrowed. In the last full year before the current administration came to power, outlays were just under $3 trillion. Earlier this year, the Office of Management and Budget estimated that in 2016 spending will rise to $4.5 trillion. Red ink abounds. The FY2008 deficit stood at less than half a trillion dollars -- an astounding amount in its day -- then hit a record $1.88 trillion in 2009. According to administration estimates, the deficit won't fall below a trillion dollars until 2013, then it will begin rising again in 2016.

Bear in mind that deficit projections depend on assumptions about future economic growth and therefore future revenues and expenditures. The state of the economy influences how much money the state collects in taxes and how much it spends. At a time when people are clamoring for the deficit to be shrunk, officials have an incentive to be unrealistically optimistic in their projections in order to mollify the public. The costs of erring on the rosy side are low: they are not likely to be held accountable several years later when their predictions don't come true, because it will be all too easy to blame "unforeseeable" circumstances.

It should also be noted that budget discussions overflow with opportunities for creative accounting, or, more bluntly, deceit. The most recent example is the supposed $38 billion budget cut for FY2011. Although that figure, a tiny percentage of federal outlays, was only about half of what House Republicans said they wanted, it turns out that the compromise between the House leadership and the White House was, in the Washington Post's words, "accounting alchemy." The Post reported,

A federal budget compromise that was hailed as historic for proposing to cut about $38 billion would reduce federal spending by only $352 million this fiscal year, less than 1 percent of the bill's advertised amount, according to the Congressional Budget Office…. The findings from the budget office warned that the deal may never come close to delivering on its promises. The analysts found that $13 billion to $18 billion of the cuts involve money that existed only on paper and was unlikely to be tapped in the next decade.

"The problem -- in the murky mathematics of the federal budget -- is that not all 'spending' is really spending," the Post added. "In fact, when 'emergency' money for military action is factored in, the overall spending for this fiscal year may actually increase, by more than $3 billion."

In Orwellian Washington a cut can really be an increase.

Many of the alleged cuts were actually the canceling of agency spending authority that wasn't being used. "A Washington Post analysis of the 459-page budget revealed at least 98 cases in which Congress took back unused IOUs and called it a cut," the paper reported.

That's government accounting for you -- smoke and mirrors, in Jimmy Breslin's memorable phrase.


The effects of deficit spending

All this deficit spending has had a deep structural effect on America's political economy. In mid April the national debt was $14.3 trillion, about 98 percent of GDP. Of that, about 68 percent ­ 67 percent of GDP ­ is held by people or entities outside the U.S. government; 47 percent is held by foreigners (32 percent of total debt). China holds $1.1 trillion. Last year the administration's Mid-Session Budget Review projected the debt would hit 100 percent of GDP by 2012, and a doubling of the debt by 2020, exceeding 100 percent of GDP for the rest of the decade. (The debt figure does not include all the government's liabilities, such as the obligations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac or the unfunded liabilities of Social Security and Medicare.)

To see the yearly budget impact of this, note that in 2010 the U.S. government paid more than $400 billion in interest, a little less than the Medicare budget. It was the fourth-largest budget item. (About half was paid to the public.) This year the government is on track to exceed that amount. It is estimated that in 2019 the government will pay $700 billion in interest. Obviously, those figures are all subject to changes in the interest rate.

Obama's 2012 budget is slightly smaller than his last budgets, because previous budgets contained extraordinarily large items, such as his so-called stimulus bill and his health-care "reform."

Also, war-related spending is assumed to diminish ­ although we'll see. The Libyan intervention cost more than $600 million as of April 4 ­ and it was just starting. Nevertheless, projections have outlays exceeding 25 percent of GDP before settling in the range of 22-23 percent of GDP. That's higher than most of the period 1947–2008 (there were exceptions in the 1980s). Over ten years, so-called mandatory spending would increase $1.3 trillion, while so-called discretionary spending would fall $1.45 trillion relative to "baseline projections." Here's what the Congressional Budget Office said about Obama's 2012 budget plan:

If the President's proposals were enacted, the federal government would record deficits of $1.4 trillion in 2011 and $1.2 trillion in 2012. Those deficits would amount to 9.5 percent and 7.4 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), respectively. (By comparison, the deficit in 2010 totaled 8.9 percent of GDP.) Those deficits would exceed the ones projected to occur under current law, by $26 billion and $83 billion, respectively.
The deficit under the President's proposals would fall to 4.1 percent of GDP by 2015 but would generally rise thereafter. Compared with CBO's current-law baseline projections, deficits under the proposals would be about 0.5 percentage points of GDP higher in 2012, 1.3 percentage points higher in 2013, and 1 to 2 percentage points higher thereafter. By 2021, the deficit would reach 4.9 percent of GDP, compared with 3.1 percent under CBO's baseline projections. Over the 2012–2021 period, deficits under the President's budget would total $9.5 trillion, compared with $6.7 trillion under those baseline projections.

Obama's profligate spending should not lead us to think he succeeded a budget hawk in office. On the contrary, the eight years of George W. Bush saw outlays go from $1.9 trillion to nearly $3 trillion. There was a budget surplus of $128 billion when he came into office. By 2009 the surplus had turned into a deficit of nearly $1.5 trillion. The national debt stood at $5.7 trillion when Bush first took the oath of office. When he left Washington, the debt was $10.7 trillion.


Unsustainable policies

But let's not get lost in these numbers. Virtually everyone agrees that the current situation is unsustainable. It's easy to see why the ruling elite think so, and it has nothing to do with new-found compassion for the long-suffering taxpayers or the consumers who will suffer if the price inflation resulting from the Federal Reserve's monetary expansion kicks in. The elite are concerned that if some control is not achieved over the spending, by 2025 all revenues collected by the national government will be swallowed up by the three pillars of the welfare state -- Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security - and interest on the debt. Today all so-called entitlements combined account for more than half the budget. Add interest and it's up to two-thirds. With the baby boomers beginning to retire and going on Social Security and Medicare, and with Medicaid set to expand under Obamacare, an explosion in outlays is just up the road. Medicare alone has unfunded liabilities of $37 trillion over the next 75 years. Social Security's hole is shallower but given the demographics, the problem is clear ­ the worker-retiree ratio is heading towards 2 to 1 in 2040. (It was more than 16 to 1 in 1950.)

But if all revenues go to those programs and interest, how will the politicians do all the other things they like doing: subsidizing pet projects (many of which are carried on by well-connected businesses); policing the globe for political and economic reasons, which often means fighting overt and covert wars and channeling billions to the military-industrial complex; engineering a national education policy; running the infrastructure (more money for corporate cronies); and generally centralizing power in Washington, D.C.?

Obviously, the ruling elite cannot let that happen. Yet to attempt to maintain spending on all those things, federal outlays would have to exceed half the GDP, perhaps up to three-quarters of all the wealth produced by the American people. Tax rates designed to raise that amount could ignite a tax revolt and further erode the legitimacy of the corporatist warfare-welfare state. Investors might be too nervous to lend, at least at low interest rates.

As the politicians and their patrons must see it, the corporatist warfare-welfare state faces a double crisis. The first is fiscal. Unless they do something soon, they won't have the money to maintain the gravy train. Discipline will be imposed on them from outside. The other looming crisis is a crisis in legitimacy. People are catching on that the politicians have used the borrowing power to hide the cost of government, imposing heavy burdens on future generations. If the ruling elite doesn't at least appear to fix things they could have trouble at the polls.

Hence, House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan's "Path to Prosperity," which has been endorsed by the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, and Obama's expression of support for modest budget cutting. But both approaches, whatever their differences in detail and style, have one overriding feature in common: they aim at preserving the corporatist warfare-welfare state. Neither represents a rethinking of the role the U.S. government has played in any of its spheres, domestic or foreign, for generations. Both embrace the long-held view that a government-business partnership is indispensable to a smooth-running economy, that the welfare state is important in maintaining public legitimacy and in ameliorating the anti-competitive effects of corporatism, and that global military hegemony is indispensable for self-serving political and economic interests. In other words, neither side wishes to see a truly free market.

http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd1107b.asp

**JP** Heroic Tale of Holocaust, With a Twist – The Muslim Help

Heroic Tale of Holocaust, With a Twist – The Muslim Help

Posted: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 

By Elaine Sciolino – NYT

HolocaustThe stories of the Holocaust have been documented, distorted, clarified and filtered through memory. Yet new stories keep coming, occasionally altering the grand, incomplete mosaic of Holocaust history.

One of them, dramatized in a French film released here last week, focuses on an unlikely savior of Jews during the Nazi occupation of France: the rector of a Paris mosque.

Muslims, it seems, rescued Jews from the Nazis.

"Les Hommes Libres" ("Free Men") is a tale of courage not found in French textbooks. According to the story, Si Kaddour Benghabrit, the founder and rector of the Grand Mosque of Paris, provided refuge and certificates of Muslim identity to a small number of Jews to allow them to evade arrest and deportation.

It was simpler than it sounds. In the early 1940s France was home to a large population of North Africans, including thousands of Sephardic Jews. The Jews spoke Arabic and shared many of the same traditions and everyday habits as the Arabs. Neither Muslims nor Jews ate pork. Both Muslim and Jewish men were circumcised. Muslim and Jewish names were often similar.

The mosque, a tiled, walled fortress the size of a city block on the Left Bank, served as a place to pray, certainly, but also as an oasis of calm where visitors were fed and clothed and could bathe, and where they could talk freely and rest in the garden.

It was possible for a Jew to pass.

"This film is an event," said Benjamin Stora, France's pre-eminent historian on North Africa and a consultant on the film. "Much has been written about Muslim collaboration with the Nazis. But it has not been widely known that Muslims helped Jews. There are still stories to be told, to be written."

The film, directed by Ismaël Ferroukhi, is described as fiction inspired by real events and built around the stories of two real-life figures (along with a made-up black marketeer). The veteran French actor Michael Lonsdale plays Benghabrit, an Algerian-born religious leader and a clever political maneuverer who gave tours of the mosque to German officers and their wives even as he apparently used it to help Jews.

Mahmoud Shalaby, a Palestinian actor living in Israel, plays Salim — originally Simon — Hilali, who was Paris's most popular Arabic-language singer, a Jew who survived the Holocaust by posing as a Muslim. (To make the assumed identity credible, Benghabrit had the name of Hilali's grandfather engraved on a tombstone in the Muslim cemetery in the Paris suburb of Bobigny, according to French obituaries about the singer. In one tense scene in the film a German soldier intent on proving that Hilali is a Jew, takes him to the cemetery to identify it.)

The historical record remains incomplete, because documentation is sketchy. Help was provided to Jews on an ad hoc basis and was not part of any organized movement by the mosque. The number of Jews who benefited is not known. The most graphic account, never corroborated, was given by Albert Assouline, a North African Jew who escaped from a German prison camp. He claimed that more than 1,700 resistance fighters — including Jews but also a lesser number of Muslims and Christians — found refuge in the mosque's underground caverns, and that the rector provided many Jews with certificates of Muslim identity.

In his 2006 book, "Among the Righteous," Robert Satloff, director of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, uncovered stories of Arabs who saved Jews during the Holocaust, and included a chapter on the Grand Mosque. Dalil Boubakeur, the current rector, confirmed to him that some Jews — up to 100 perhaps — were given Muslim identity papers by the mosque, without specifying a number. Mr. Boubakeur said individual Muslims brought Jews they knew to the mosque for help, and the chief imam, not Benghabrit, was the man responsible.

Mr. Boubakeur showed Mr. Satloff a copy of a typewritten 1940 Foreign Ministry document from the French Archives. It stated that the occupation authorities suspected mosque personnel of delivering false Muslim identity papers to Jews. "The imam was summoned, in a threatening manner, to put an end to all such practices," the document said.

Mr. Satloff said in a telephone interview: "One has to separate the myth from the fact. The number of Jews protected by the mosque was probably in the dozens, not the hundreds. But it is a story that carries a powerful political message and deserves to be told."

A 1991 television documentary "Une Résistance Oubliée: La Mosquée de Paris" ("A Forgotten Resistance: The Mosque of Paris") by Derri Berkani , and a children's book "The Grand Mosque of Paris: A Story of How Muslims Saved Jews During the Holocaust," published in 2007, also explore the events.

The latest film was made in an empty palace in Morocco, with the support of the Moroccan government. The Paris mosque refused to grant permission for any filming. "We're a place of worship," Mr. Boubakeur said in an interview. "There are prayers five times a day. Shooting a film would have been disruptive."

Benghabrit fell out of favor with fellow Muslims because he opposed Algerian independence and stayed loyal to France's occupation of his native country. He died in 1954.

In doing research for the film, Mr. Ferroukhi and even Mr. Stora learned new stories. At one screening a woman asked him why the film did not mention the Ashkenazi Jews of Eastern European origin who had been saved by the mosque. Mr. Stora said he explained that the mosque didn't intervene on behalf of Ashkenazi Jews, who did not speak Arabic or know Arab culture.

"She told me: 'That's not true. My mother was protected and saved by a certificate from the mosque,' " Mr. Stora said.

On Wednesday, the day of the film's release here, hundreds of students from three racially and ethnically mixed Paris-area high schools were invited to a special screening and question-and-answer session with Mr. Ferroukhi and some of his actors.

Some asked banal questions. Where did you find the old cars? (From an antique car rental agency.) Others reacted with curiosity and disbelief, wanting to know how much of the film was based on fact, and how it could have been possible that Jews mingled easily with Muslims. Some were stunned to hear that the Nazis persecuted only the Jews, and left the Muslims alone.

Reviews here were mixed on the film, which is to be released in the Netherlands, Switzerland and Belgium. (American rights have been sold as well.) The daily Le Figaro said it "reconstitutes an atmosphere and a period marvelously." The weekly L'Express called it "ideal for a school outing, less for an evening at the movies."

Mr. Ferroukhi does not care. He said he was lobbying the Culture and Education Ministries to get the film shown in schools. "It pays homage to the people of our history who have been invisible," he said. "It shows another reality, that Muslims and Jews existed in peace. We have to remember that — with pride."






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The First Woman to Cast a Vote in Chicago Did So With Her Feet





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The First Woman to Cast a Vote in Chicago Did So With Her Feet

Posted: 04 Oct 2011 07:00 PM PDT

Kittie Smith

Kittie Smith: "How I sharpen my lead pencil. How I use shears in cutting paper and cloth. The Position I occupy when I write."

Today I found out the first woman to cast a vote in Chicago did so with her feet.

The woman was Kittie Smith.  Smith lost her arms as a child, after having both her arms and hands burned badly on a kitchen stove.  It is unclear exactly how her arms came to be burned so badly so that they needed amputated.  It is thought by many that her father did it intentionally, given his history of alcoholism and abuse of his children, as well as the manner and severity in which she was burned.  However, later in life, Kittie denied this and said it was an accident.  In Kittie's own words:

My father was a drinking man and was in the habit of sending his children to a neighboring saloon for liquor, though I was sent more often than any of the others.  I remember tasting of the liquor I carried, and think it was always beer.  In November, 1891, and on the afternoon of Thanksgiving Day, my father and I were alone in the house, my brothers being at play out of doors, and in going about the house, I found a bottle filled with what I afterwards knew must have been whiskey.  Being but a child, I picked up the bottle and drank freely from it; its effect was almost immediate, and I grew weak and stupefied.  My father was in an adjoining room and called to me to go and put some wood on the kitchen fire and I called back that I was sick and could not go, but he insisted and I obeyed.  I had taken the lids from the stove, when, from the combined effect of the heat and the liquor, my whole being gave way and I sank on to the open stove, unconscious.  I must have lain there some time, for the physicians and surgeons said that the bones of my hands and arms were amputated three inches from the shoulders.  I was burned on the neck and on the chest but those burns were not serious.
We lived at this time at 548 Park Avenue, and neighbors claimed that my father was also intoxicated, and that he held me on the stove until my arms were burned, and that they heard me screaming.  The Humane Society of Illinois took the matter and had my father placed under arrest.  After a trial in a Justice Court, he was held to the grand jury, and, on the final trial in the spring of 1892, he was acquitted for lack of evidence.
Kittie Smith

Kittie Smith: "My picture is the one standing at the right. It is not very good of me for I moved. But it is the only picture I have showing my arms, so I value it very highly."

Her father shortly after waived all rights to her and her care was given to the Children's Home Society of Illinois (her mother already having died when Kittie was 9 years old).  During the next several years, she was taken in to a variety of homes, often for only a few weeks at a time, and was supported by donations through the "Kittie Smith fund".  She learned to write, sew, and do other tasks at the Home for Destitute and Crippled Children.

Upon reaching adulthood, Kittie was on her own as far as supporting herself and earned money by selling drawings, embroidery, and writing cards, all made with her feet.

Kittie eventually became the first woman to vote in Chicago Illinois in 1913.  "Hold on there!"  You say? "The 19th Amendment wasn't passed until 1920.  How was she able to vote in 1913?"  She was able to vote largely by the tenacious and persistent efforts of Gracie Wilbur Trout and her cohorts, in 1912 through 1913.  By their efforts, in Illinois, on June 26, 1913, women began being allowed to vote on presidential elections as well as many other elections, with the bill being signed by the Governor of Illinois in front of Trout.  In 1913, an estimated 250,000 women, with Kittie Smith leading the way, voted in Chicago Illinois when the first Illinois election took place after that bill passed.

For those who are curious, here is an example of her penmanship:

Foot Letter by Kittie Smith

Bonus Factoids:

  • Along with writing and doing embroidery, Kittie was also able to dress herself; brush her teeth; comb her hair; and do other such common tasks, despite her lack of arms.  She could also do common household tasks such as sweeping, mopping, cleaning stoves, etc.  More amazingly, she could play the piano, and type, as well as do semi-skilled wood-work, having made book cases, desks, and other furniture completely by herself.  Beyond all this, Kittie's story moved many people due to her extreme optimist and positive thinking, generally known to consider herself extremely lucky in life.
  • By 1906, largely due to her endearing qualities and heart wrenching story, she had collected over $35,000 worth of quarters, sent to her as a response to her distributed pamphlets which included a slot for a quarter if people felt so moved to give.  She then used this money to start her own company which was dedicated to helping disabled children overcome their handicaps.
  • After the U.S. Revolution, women were actually allowed to vote in a few places in the United States, with the restriction typically just being on relative wealth (both for men and women).  For instance, in New Jersey, whether male or female, you needed to have at least £50 to vote, which is equivalent to about $7,800 today.  The laws were later revised though and, by the early 1800s, women were no longer allowed to vote in most all places in the United States.
  • Ellen Martin, in 1891, was the first woman able to vote in Lombard, Illinois.  She noticed that the Lombard charter on who could vote didn't mention gender.  This charter superseded Illinois law and, thus, she was legally allowed to vote.  She and 14 other women voted in the 1891 elections, before the charter was amended.
  • President Woodrow Wilson pushed hard for the suffrage bill that would allow women across the nation to vote to pass.  Despite this, the bill failed in 1915, 1918 (although in this case, it made it passed the House and into the Senate), and 1919.  Wilson then called a special session of congress in May of 1919, with the purpose of finally passing the suffrage bill.   It passed with 42 more votes than  necessary in the House.  It then passed 56 to 25 in the Senate.  The states themselves then ratified it with Illinois, Wisconsin, and Michigan being the first.  Tennessee was the last of the needed 36 states to ratify the bill.  Thus, in the summer of 1920, the 19th Amendment to the Constitution was put in place, allowing women in all states to vote.

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The Government’s Illusory Terrorist Threat


The Government's Illusory Terrorist Threat
by Ivan Eland, October 05, 2011

Now that the big kahuna ­ Osama bin Laden ­ has been killed, the "War on Terror" is much less exciting. Even before Osama's demise, experts sent chills through the massive post-9/11 U.S. government anti-terrorism bureaucracies by concluding that the threat from al-Qaeda had been much weakened by the group's own bloody excesses against civilians, many of whom were Muslims. Yet the way government works, every agency ­ whether fighting poverty, obesity, childhood acne, or terrorism ­ needs a threat to hype to keep the cash flowing in from scared taxpayers. So the anti-terrorism agencies need to keep the threat, however declining, fresh in the public mind and publicize their efforts to successfully combat the danger. Recently, two incidents illustrate the extent of the government's refrain that the "terrorists are (still) coming, the terrorists are (still) coming!"

As the public has tired of drawn-out, muddled, and costly (in blood and treasure) counterinsurgency wars in faraway places that seem to have only a tangential relationship to battling insidious terrorists, technology has ridden to the rescue. Now any U.S. president can kill potential terrorists with pilotless drone aircraft much more cheaply and without casualties from putting troops on the ground. For example, the U.S. is using such technology in Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen to take out alleged Islamic terrorists. Recently, an American drone successfully assassinated Anwar al-Awlaki, a U.S. citizen who spoke fluent English and was inspiring Islamist militants with charismatic speeches. U.S. authorities also made vague allegations that he was operationally involved in the BVD (underwear) bombing and a plot to blow cardboard boxes on cargo planes out of the sky. Even disregarding the obvious problem of what legal authority the United States used to justify violating the Fifth Amendment's prohibition on taking life, liberty, or property without due process ­ the Justice Department's legal memo justifying Awlaki's killing is classified, and Awlaki doesn't seem to be covered by the post-9/11 authorization for war, which only approved military action against those who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks or harbored the attackers ­ the U.S. government clearly hyped the threat that Awlaki posed.

Awlaki was little known in the Middle East, and one knowledgeable scholar termed him " a-dime-a-dozen cleric." Thus, his importance to the war on terror was largely a creation of the American government and media. Seeing the opportunity for some free publicity ­ what terrorists crave ­ al-Qaeda then pushed Awlaki further into the manufactured limelight. And now that the U.S. has made him a martyr by assassinating him on the basis of secret criteria, vague allegations, and no due process, the State Department had to put out a worldwide travel alert to American citizens warning of retaliatory attacks to avenge Awlaki's death.

Also as part of the post-9/11 terrorism hype, the government has created a terrorist watch list containing 420,000 names, with no public disclosure of the criteria used to put that many people on it and no due process for such persons to answer the allegations. If only a fraction of that massive and wildly inflated list is trying to do harm to the United States, we are all in trouble.

In sum, in the war on terror, the U.S. government hypes the threat to justify expanding anti-terrorism efforts and budgets, argues that war is the only means to effectively combat the inflated threat (instead of using low-key intelligence and law enforcement measures, which don't generate more terrorists by poking the hornet's nest), and creates a wider retaliatory threat by using such draconian military action. This wider danger is used to justify the need for even harsher military action, and the action-reaction cycle escalates. In sum, the government is creating the demand for its own services; private businesses should be in awe of such ability.

And not only is the government hyping the terrorist threat, it is creating it. Like the hapless BVD bomber, who didn't even have a bomb big enough to bring down the airliner, a graduate student the FBI recently arrested for plotting to blow up the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol with hobbyists' remote-controlled aircraft would have been foiled by the fact that the planes just couldn't carry enough explosives to do the job. The student, a U.S. citizen, got very different treatment than Awlaki. Instead of being assassinated, he was arrested, but before that, the U.S. government purposefully helped him. The government, in order to entrap him, gave him money and grenades, assault rifles, C-4 plastic explosives, and even the remote-controlled aircraft to carry out the attack. Without all this money and equipment, the student would have likely been no threat at all. In fact, according to The New York Times, Carmen M. Ortiz, the U.S. attorney in Boston, admitted, "The public was never in danger from the explosive devices."

This is not an isolated case. In similar cases, the FBI has provided the means to carry out terrorist attacks but then arrested the alleged plotter. Such entrapment provides opportunities for people to do what they otherwise would not or could not do. And Muslims have complained that the FBI is targeting their community with such "gotcha" tactics.

Such governmental hyping of the terrorist threat, or actual creation of it, to justify greater federal coercive action makes one wonder whether to fear more the low probability of a successful terrorist attack or the massive, expensive, and intrusive government efforts to combat it.

http://original.antiwar.com/eland/2011/10/04/the-governments-illusory-terrorist-threat/

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Re: **JP** Fw: PROSTITUTION IN MAKKAH DR HASNAIN thinks you should read this article

Well in my perception they are questioned, and if and so found guilty they would be having punishment for their deeds. The Saudi Government Knows how to deal with these culprits again I quote if they are found guilty under the Sharia law and in Qazi Court. Anyhow reading this article is really shocking.
 
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PROSTITUTION IN MAKKAH??? http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article504375.ece
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Re: **JP** Fw: Re: Pakistani Press look at these partriotic Pakistanis

That type of Afghan commitment was so dangerous and it will be the last nail in their country coffin.

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Subject: **JP** Fw: Re: Pakistani Press look at these partriotic Pakistanis
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From: Gulpari Nazish Mehsud <gulpari.mehsud@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pakistani Press look at these partriotic Pakistanis
To: pakistanipress@googlegroups.com, mailto@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, 3 October, 2011, 7:18 PM

Pakistan Government should take notice of the public statements of Ms. Marvi Sirmed ... She is a senior officer for UN in Pakistan, she appears on TV channels to question if Pakistan should exist as independent country, she openly supports future US and Indian attacks on Pakistan and supports Indian hegemony over Pakistan, secession of Balochistan, etc...Question is: does she represent United Nations offices in Pakistan when she makes these assertions? Where is Ministry of Information & Broadcasting? What is the job description of PID? Why do thse departments exist if their job does not include protecting Pakistan against these soft and indirect attacks? Would a UN employee like this one stay for a single day on the soil of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran, Russia if she used such a language there?
 
gulpari mehsud, islamabad
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How our Pakistani citizens are happy on Indian Afghanistan new secutiry pact
 
Marvi Sirmed
marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed 
Aah! RT @AbasDaiyar: The Strategic Agreement with India includes Indian commitment to assist and train the Afghan National Security Forces.
 
Marvi Sirmed
marvisirmed Marvi Sirmed 
So Indians made it to the security sector partnership in Afghanistan. Good move. #Pakistan, what's next?
 
 
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Re: The Cult of Reagan, and Other Neocon Follies

I guess my point,  is that I am now convinced that either Lil'StevieStink, and/or Lil'MarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews has hijacked PlainOl's compute!
 


 
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Sage2 <wisdom812@gmail.com> wrote:
         And that's why the Obama Administration calls them green
jobs.  We are wasting all our greenbacks on them.

On Oct 4, 6:52 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Green jobs, by Obamas example, cost 23 million apiece, pay 10 to 45 dollars
> an hour and last 10 to 11 months... a real bargain.
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Green Jobs"?
>
> > Okay.......
>
> > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 5:18 PM, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
>
> >> not $$ ... effectiveness
>
> >> Israel is the largest recipient of U.S. foreign military
> >> assistance.Over the past decade, the U.S. has given more than $17
> >> billion in military aid to this country of 7,746,000 people.
>
> >> If military aid were cut off to Israel, the tax money could be spent
> >> in the United States to provide 364,000 low-income households with
> >> affordable housing vouchers, or to retrain 498,000 workers for green
> >> jobs, or to provide access to primary health care services for 24
> >> million uninsured Americans.
> >> Money saved could aid the U.S. military, which is closing military
> >> bases, freezing pay raises for service members, and cutting the
> >> defense budget.
> >> Military aid is given predominantly to Middle Eastern countries,
> >> particularly Egypt, Jordan, Israel and Saudi-Arabia, neither of which
> >> is a developing country.
>
> >> On Oct 3, 8:15 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > It is not just Israel that has working spynets in the US. It is
> >> > EVERYONE!!! They need them, the US and its policies can not be
> >> > trusted.
> >> > ----
> >> > wanna narrow this down a bit?
>
> >> > *Everyone*  is as narrow as it gets, and no, Israel is not the best nor
> >> the
> >> > biggest lobby in Washington. That would be:
>
> >> > US Chamber of Commerce<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000019798&year=2011>
> >> > $770,655,680American Medical
> >> > Assn<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000068&year=2011>
> >> > $252,037,500General
> >> > Electric<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000125&year=2011>
> >> > $251,940,000AARP<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000023726&year=2011>
> >> > $207,432,064Pharmaceutical Rsrch & Mfrs of
> >> > America<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000504&year=2011>
> >> > $204,433,920American Hospital
> >> > Assn<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000116&year=2011>
> >> > $203,648,736Blue Cross/Blue
> >> > Shield<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000109&year=2011>
> >> > $169,655,236National Assn of
> >> > Realtors<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000062&year=2011>
> >> > $166,150,553Northrop
> >> > Grumman<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000170&year=2011>
> >> > $164,845,253Exxon
> >> > Mobil<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000129&year=2011>
> >> > $163,512,742Verizon
> >> > Communications<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000079&year=2011>
> >> > $158,014,841Edison Electric
> >> > Institute<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000297&year=2011>
> >> > $154,005,999Business
> >> > Roundtable<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000032202&year=2011>
> >> > $150,550,000Boeing
> >> > Co<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000100&year=2011>
> >> > $147,884,310Lockheed
> >> > Martin<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000104&year=2011>
> >> > $142,374,763AT&T
> >> > Inc<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000076&year=2011>
> >> > $126,449,336Southern
> >> > Co<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000168&year=2011>
> >> > $124,130,694General
> >> > Motors<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000155&year=2011>
> >> > $121,899,170PG&E
> >> > Corp<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000290&year=2011>
> >> > $119,190,000Pfizer
> >> > Inc<
> >>http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000138&year=2011>
> >> > $114,757,268
>
> >> > Israel doesn't even make the top 20 in lobbying...the top ten are:
>
> >> > United Arab Emirates$10,914,002United
> >> Kingdom$6,105,200Japan$4,231,656Iraq
> >> > $3,708,368Turkey$3,524,632Morocco$3,337,392Saudi Arabia$3,308,285South
> >> Korea
> >> > $2,941,004Netherlands$2,694,604Equatorial Guinea$2,408,168
>
> >> > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:46 PM, plainolamerican
> >> > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> > > It is not just Israel that has working spynets in the US. It is
> >> > > EVERYONE!!! They need them, the US and its policies can not be
> >> > > trusted.
> >> > > ----
> >> > > wanna narrow this down a bit?
>
> >> > > It is not just Israel
> >> > > ---
> >> > > no, israel just happens to be the largest, most effective lobby in DC
> >> > > a lobby that can destroy any voice in opposition to israel
>
> >> > > the US and its policies can not be trusted.
> >> > > ---
> >> > > but somehow the israelis can trust the US to protect them?
>
> >> > > On Oct 3, 2:06 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > Painol,
>
> >> > > > It is not just Israel that has working spynets in the US. It is
> >> > > > EVERYONE!!! They need them, the US and its policies can not be
> >> > > > trusted.
>
> >> > > > On Oct 3, 10:57 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > I cannot think of any time in our history, where we "intervened"
> >> and
> >> > > > > there
> >> > > > > wasn't an argument for the protection of our sovereignty,
> >> including
> >> > > > > Viet
> >> > > > > Nam
> >> > > > > ---
> >> > > > > are you implying that communism was a direct threat to our
> >> > > > > sovereignty?
> >> > > > > if so, then wouldn't you say that socialism is a direct threat?
>
> >> > > > > You may in fact disagree with the logic,  (and like most
> >> > > > > Moonbats, not comprehend the Truman Doctrine
> >> > > > > ----
> >> > > > > Truman:
> >> > > > > I believe that we must assist free peoples to work out their own
> >> > > > > destinies in their own way.
> >> > > > > Speech to a joint session of the US Congress (12 March 1947),
> >> > > > > outlining what became known as The Truman Doctrine.
>
> >> > > > > All the president is, is a glorified public relations man who
> >> spends
> >> > > > > his time flattering, kissing, and kicking people to get them to do
> >> > > > > what they are supposed to do anyway.
>
> >> > > > >     Had ten minutes conversation with Henry Morgenthau about
> >> Jewish
> >> > > > > ship in Palistine. Told him I would talk to Gen[eral] Marshall
> >> about
> >> > > > > it. He'd no business, whatever to call me. The Jews have no sense
> >> of
> >> > > > > proportion nor do they have any judgement on world affairs. Henry
> >> > > > > brought a thousand Jews to New York on a supposedly temporary
> >> basis
> >> > > > > and they stayed. When the country went backward — and Republican
> >> in
> >> > > > > the election of 1946, this incident loomed large on the DP
> >> [Displaced
> >> > > > > Person] program. The Jews, I find are very, very selfish. They
> >> care
> >> > > > > not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or
> >> Greeks
> >> > > > > get murdered or mistreated as DP as long as the Jews get special
> >> > > > > treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or
> >> political
> >> > > > > neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or
> >> > > > > mistreatment to the under dog. Put an underdog on top and it makes
> >> no
> >> > > > > difference whether his name is Russian, Jewish, Negro, Management,
> >> > > > > Labor, Mormon, Baptist he goes haywire. I've found very, very few
> >> who
> >> > > > > remember their past condition when prosperity comes.
>
> >> > > > > On Oct 3, 11:08 am, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > Hey PlainOl',
>
> >> > > > > > Israel is a conundrum, and not a good example of other hot spots
> >> in
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > > world, albeit they are right in the middle of several issues.
>
> >> > > > > > To the point, if any Nation does any act that would threaten the
> >> > > sovereignty
> >> > > > > > of the United States, then I think we have the right to
> >> intervene.
> >> > >  Thus,
> >> > > > > > when there are those who are not identified with a Nation-State,
> >> but
> >> > > are
> >> > > > > > devout on seeing Islam return to its glory of the 11th and 12th
> >> > > centuries,
> >> > > > > > then yes, I think we have every right to intervene. So was the
> >> case
> >> > > with
> >> > > > > > Afghanistan in 2001, Iraq (which we believed was a potential
> >> threat
> >> > > in
> >> > > > > > 2003)  and Pakistan just last year, when we violated Pakistan's
> >> > > soveriegnty
> >> > > > > > to go in and emasculate Osama bin Laden.
>
> >> > > > > > I cannot think of any time in our history, where we "intervened"
> >> and
> >> > > there
> >> > > > > > wasn't an argument for the protection of our sovereignty,
> >> including
> >> > > Viet
> >> > > > > > Nam,  and Iraq.  You may in fact disagree with the logic,  (and
> >> like
> >> > > most
> >> > > > > > Moonbats, not comprehend the Truman Doctrine with the case of
> >> Viet
> >> > > Nam)
> >> > > > > > and/or be intent on revising contemporary history, but again, I
> >> can
> >> > > think of
> >> > > > > > no incidents.  (Maybe the Spanish American War....)
>
> >> > > > > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 5:04 PM, plainolamerican
> >> > > > > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > would we as a Nation have a right to interfere
> >> > > > > > > ---
> >> > > > > > > yes ... even to the extent of dismantling their government, if
> >> > > > > > > necessary
> >> > > > > > > but, remember, this is not about controlling resources or
> >> > > protecting
> >> > > > > > > one foreign government from another
>
> >> > > > > > > backatcha:
> >> > > > > > > If the US stops providing military support to israel and their
> >> > > enemies
> >> > > > > > > attack them should we interfere?
> >> > > > > > > remember, israel has spied on us, killed our soldiers,
> >> corrupted
> >> > > our
> >> > > > > > > politicians and promotes socialism in our nation
>
> >> > > > > > > On Oct 3, 9:50 am, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com>
>
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