World News: Jan 12, 2011

Wednesday, January 12, 2011

Snowfall Covers 49 States---Including Sunny Hawaii

The Goracle only gave me 5 inches of glow-bull warming. How much did he give you?

Snowfall Covers 49 States---Including Sunny Hawaii

doctorbulldog | 12 January, 2011 at 12:29 pm | Categories: Global Warming | URL: http://wp.me/p1NPg-6Q4

We had this same phenomena occur last year. Of course, the clima-junk-science-tologists will blame it all on glow-bull warming:

Snow in 49 states including Hawaii

HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - According to national news sources, it is snowing in 49 states across the country including Hawaii where snow has fallen atop Mauna Kea on the Big Island.

Florida is the only state without fresh snow.

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RE: Reagan; Dubya; Orange Boner, Cryer of the House, and Wingut Keith

Keith-

I believe that the false slander and hateful smear which you direct at
me personally should in fact be read and judged by the entire group.
Were you drinking when you said these vile, false and hateful things
about me, or were you simply parroting your hateful false wingnut
slogans like "Moonbat" "Obamacare" and "Marxist" in your personal
attacks against me?

I do not accept your lame half-assed apology attempt. Sorry.

-Tommy

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Keith In Köln <keithintampa@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 13:41:28 +0100
Subject: Fwd: Reagan; Dubya; Orange Boner, Cryer of the House...
To: tommysnews@gmail.com

Good Afternoon (CET) Tom,

Although I wrote this, and initially posted it to the group, I immediately
took it off of the board, and tried to recall it through my Outlook. My
attempt was somewhat successful, as it withrdew 213 submissions that went
out, although there are some twenty-two copies of this message that did go
out, and were not recalled. Unlike HP, the majority of the members of PF
subscribe to the group by looking at and reviewing messages from the web
site.

My point being, is that I should not have sent out such a personal attack
against you. Don't get me wrong, I believe every word of what I wrote, I
just should not have shared my thoughts with the group.

My apologies,

Keith

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Keith In Köln <keithintampa@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: Reagan; Dubya; Orange Boner, Cryer of the House...
To: politicalforum@googlegroups.com

Good Morning Frank.

If the group Political Forum has done anything, it exposes the fraud of
folks like TommyTomTomForNews. An individual who portrays himself as open,
honest, forthright, and a champion for Gay Rights, Tom is a very bitter,
small, hateful, uninformed and uneducated (I believe him to be a) man.

Tom has well documented himself to be a champion of Marxist policy, and his
posts are one continual barrage of hateful spew, all of which he has cut and
pasted from sites like the Daily Kos, TruthOut.org, MSNBC, and the New York
Times, with doses of "HomosexualCommunistsAreUs" sprinkled in frequently.
Usually he plagerizes these articles, but on occasion Tom will give a
byline.

Again, if the group serves any purpose, it exposes fraud.

KeithInKöln

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:06 PM, frankg <frankg2@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow, that's an awful lot of hate coming from someone on the left who
> is always bitching about the hate coming from the right.
>
> On Jan 11, 1:24 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Speaking of Crystal Balls, It is well known that grade "D" actress and
> > fashion plate Nancy Davis Reagan and her "psychic" friends were making
> > Presidential decisions for and behind Ronnie.
> >
> > In the context of Reagan's dimentia, it is worth reading Leslie
> > Stahl's memoirs. She recalls that when she visited Reagan on her
> > farewell visit after having covered the White House beat for all of
> > his two terms in office, he had no idea who she was.
> >
> > On 1/10/11, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > From our friend Jim:
> >
> > > RE: Orange Boner, Cryer of the House, Sheds Crocodile Tears Again a...
> >
> > > I thought that was a given that Ronald Reagan had Alzheimer's years
> before
> > > he
> > > became President.
> >
> > > (Before I go any further, I know whereof I speak concerning
> Alzheimer's.)
> >
> > > Like most people in the early stages of the disease, he was affable and
> > > able to parrot what was given to him to read and/or say.
> > > With his experience of doing this for a living, he became the "Great
> > > Communicator."
> > > What he communicated was what his handlers told him to say.
> > > To hide his deficiencies, Nancy was constantly at his side...prompting
> him
> > > and covering for him. She was his enabler.
> > > That is the "normal behavior" for the spouse or significant other of
> an
> > > Alzheimer's patient. They will pursue it relentlessly, calling it love,
> no
> > > matter how harmful the deception.
> > > Ronald Reagan was never properly intellectually able to be President.
> > > That meant nothing to the morally bankrupt ReTHUGlican Party.
> > > Neither was DUH-Byah. Again, there was no concern because all they
> needed
> > > and wanted was a front (AKA Shill) to use as a diversion from their
> > > destruction of America...for personal gain.
> >
> > > Both Reagan and Bush were what I refer to as Post Turtles.
> >
> > > Everybody knows a turtle cannot climb a fence post.
> >
> > > Put one up there to create a diversion while you go about your
> dastardly
> > > deeds and then claim they are "Presidential policies."
> >
> > > Think "trickle down economics" and the illegal invasion of Iraq.
> > > Both...crimes against our nation for the benefit of the power brokers.
> >
> > > Neither of those two had enough sense to craft a policy on anything.
> Much
> > > less economics or war.
> >
> > > Reagan, because of his Alzheimer's.
> >
> > > Bush, because he's just plain stupid and a sociopath.
> >
> > > Both were the malleable court jesters for the powerful forces that put
> them
> > > in office.
> >
> > > We suffer from what happened during the term of office for both of
> these
> > > dunder heads. Our nation will continue to suffer for generations to
> come.
> >
> > > The latest twist or "innovation" on the Post Turtle theme is the Tea
> Party,
> > > financed and controlled by billionaires who are also sociopaths.
> >
> > > With the current Gang of Five on the Supreme Court gutting the
> Constitution
> > > to suit the power brokers, we're in for much more...and worse...of the
> > > same insanity.
> > > Our very existence as a nation is in jeopardy. Unlike the
> ReTHUGlicans,
> > > that is not empty hyperbole!
> > > Stay tuned...
> > > Jim
> >
> > > I AM CONVINCED HIS ALZHEIMER'S WAS AFFECTING HIM BEFORE HE BECAME
> > > PRESIDENT
> >
> > > --
> > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > > Have a great day,
> > > Tommy
> >
> > --
> > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > Have a great day,
> > Tommy
>
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The Government Spending Threat to Economic Freedom

This morning, The Heritage Foundation and The Wall Street Journal released the 2011 Index of Economic Freedom, and while the news is good for many countries, it is depressing for the United States. All told, 117 countries, mainly developing and emerging market economies, improved their Economic Freedom Index score. Meanwhile the U.S. dropped to 9th place, remaining "mostly free," weighed down by the burden of President Obama's spending spree.

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Pics and toons 1/12/11 (4)

Pics and toons 1/12/11/ (3)

Pics and toons 1/12/11 (2)

Pics and toons 1/12/11 (1)

The ObamaCare Fraud

ObamaCare will penalize doctors to pay patients and penalize patients to pay doctors...

Now there is a good idea, don't pay the doctors direct but funnel the money through the governments hands first. No chance of anything going wrong there. <sic>

REASON MAGAZINE

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Re: Stupidity In Action: Rep. Peter King, GOP Fear Monger Moron, To Introduce Inadequate Gun-Control Legislation

Good luck with that one, Tommy!

On 1/12/2011 10:07 AM, Tommy News wrote:

Repeal the Second Amendment and get rid of ALL the guns gradually. -T

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Not Really About Driving

Not Really About Driving
By Eric Peters

Why do we bother with driver's licenses at all? They're certainly not a measure of even minimal competence as a driver. You take a written (now digital) test that Forrest Gump could pass, along with (maybe) a cursory "road" test that takes place in the parking lot of the DMV. A 12-year-old could pass these tests. More to the point, adults far less competent than the average 12-year-old routinely pass these tests. They have a driver's license, all right, but calling them "drivers" is generous. The sail fawn-addled, SmoooVee doing 80 in a snowstorm, Buick in the left lane refusing to move right, double-yellow-crossing, half-blind inattentive Taco-eating marginality of the average Driver Americanus is known the world over.

So, we do we bother with them at all? Because in the U.S., a driver's license is really an ID card. A sort of internal passport we're all compelled to carry -- and produce, upon demand. It has very little to do with driving -- and much to do with herding us like the cattle we've become. I go too far? Well, see how far you can go without a driver's license -- even if you never get behind the wheel of a car. Banks want to see your driver's license before they'll open an account -- which you need to cash your check from your employer -- who won't hire you unless you produce the government-issued internal passport -- which you also can't board an airplane without and do many other things besides.

All of which have exactly zilch to do with operating a motor vehicle.

Of course, it was the Germans who invented the "driver's" license. (Stifle the PC outrage; your angry correspondent is as ethnically Volkdeutsch as sauerkraut.)

The first one was issued to Karl Benz for his Motorwagen in 1888 -- and like so many other not-so-great ideas from the Fatherland it migrated to the Homeland not too many years later.

The Germans have a DNA-encoded fetish for controlling things -- including other humans. Again, stifle the PC outrage. I understand the German mindset because I grew up within in it and am plagued by it myself. It takes an everyday act of will to remind myself that other people are not my playthings and that they have as much right to do as they please -- provided they're not harming anyone, of course -- as I do.

Anyhow.

We now have to carry around these infernal internal passports that have nothing to do with driving ability, in order for the authorities -- government and corporate -- to be able to identify, record and process us.

Like the Fourth Amendment and other former freedoms we've surrendered over the years, the freedom to travel thus no longer exists in this country. Even if you are on foot you can expect trouble if you cross paths with a representative of the sicherheitspolizei who -- for no reason or for any reason -- demands you "show me some ID" - and you don't happen to have any. Doesn't matter that you're just walking to the store (or whatever) and haven't done a thing to warrant suspicion of criminal conduct (the old standard; long since thrown in the woods).

Yes, I know that technically -- in some states -- "the law" still says they have to have some sort of articulable probable cause. See how much that helps when the SD man is Tazering you -- or worse -- for "resisting" or whatever he'll say you were doing. In fact, in the real world, possessing an ID -- a driver's license -- is a functional necessity, not simply to transact day-to-day business but to avoid becoming the star player in the next YouTube video episode of Don't Taze Me, Bro!

It's weird. Almost none of us question the basic of idea of being made to carry a driver's license/ID card -- even as many of us have lately erupted in anger (rightly so) over the TSA's creepy and degrading low-rent porno scan n' feels.

Maybe we ought to.

If a driver's license were what the term implies -- proof that you have shown you're competent to operate a vehicle, based on successful completion of an at-least slightly demanding driver's test in an actual car on actual roads -- then, okay.

Maybe.

At least then, the bearer could take some pride in the same way that a college graduate or a person who holds a sharpshooter's certificate can take pride in a real achievement.

But the "driver's" licenses almost all of us carry today are nothing more than the equivalent of the yellow tags you see stapled into the left ears of cows. And serve the same purpose.

I think it's time for the cattle to question the whole business...

http://spectator.org/archives/2011/01/11/not-really-about-driving

You Can Not Legislate Away Crazy

You Can Not Legislate Away Crazy

Upper Marlboro, MD --(Ammoland.com)- I am deeply saddened by the loss of life from the tragic shooting in Tucson, Arizona.

Our country is already going through a trying time as it deals with the economy and a loss of faith in our politicians. Unfortunately, the talking heads are already playing the blame game.

Arizona has been celebrating recent improvements in its policy toward self defense and personal protection. It has become a model of freedom.

Nature Abhors A Vacuum So Send In The Clowns.
As great as America is, we still have crazy people. We still have criminals. The tragic shooting will resurrect attempts of failed gun prohibitionist to use this time of sorrow for their own gain. Enemies of freedom that are both foreign and domestic will weigh in.

They will try to use this event as a fundraiser in the name of little Christina-Taylor Green, the little nine year old political hopeful that was slain. They will attack high capacity magazines because magazines can’t retort. Of course, they must do something right?

The truth is you cannot legislate crazy.
As someone that has made terrorism, criminal behavior and analysis my life, I know you can follow group dynamics. You can monitor the operation and practices of groups and institutions. You can predict human behavior with some percentage of certainty because humanity hasn’t changed.

But crazy people are always a wild card. You can’t predict what sets them off this time or will cause them to act violently.

Celebrities and politicians will have to be extremely careful in the future. With the access to social information that all of us willingly provide, it is easier to trace and track us than ever before. We are all creatures of habit. You become a target of opportunity for any mentally ill person that sees you as a representation of the demon that is inside him. A new law won’t save one life.

Gun, magazine, ammunition, and edged weapons restrictions only affect and disarm the law abiding.

There has been no shortage of mental illness related attacks on the innocent. Kenneth James Ward, blamed the Mormon church for his troubles and opened fire on a layperson in a church in 2010. Then there was the matriarch of a Cambodian immigrant family in Seattle with a history of mental problems, that killed three members of her own family back in September 2010. And who can forget Seung-Hui Cho, the mentally ill student from Virginia Tech in 2007? How about Robert Pickett, who tried to assassinate President George W. Bush in 2001? John Hinkley, Jr. is still trying to get out from his attempt on President Ronald Reagan in 1981. As a personnel protection specialist, I know, “you can’t legislate crazy.”

We will hear many accounts in the next few days about people that knew that the 22-year-old Jared Loughner was “off.” We already have laws that make it illegal for the mentally ill from buying, owning or possessing a firearm. Only the law abiding follow the law. Criminals and sociopathic people will find a way to do what they want when given the opportunity. What you have to do is keep your eyes open and focus on the people not the tools.

One of the most derogatory words folks use on both sides of the argument is “gun nuts.” It is not positive. It’s as bad as the “N” word to me. After we grieve, I hope America returns to focus on what our problems are and not try to appease our emotions with worthless name-calling rhetoric or give an ear to those that will use this horrific event for their own agenda.

It is my hope that what happened in Arizona, doesn’t repeat itself for a long, long time. I will continue to pray for the Congresswoman and survivors of the melee. If you have to do something in response, please join me in prayer for the survivors and our Nation.

Rev. Kenn Blanchard

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Stupidity In Action: Rep. Peter King, GOP Fear Monger Moron, To Introduce Inadequate Gun-Control Legislation

Stupidity In Action: Rep. Peter King, GOP Fear Mongering Moron, To
Introduce Inadequate Gun-Control Legislation.

Peter King is a Reich wing GOP fear monger moron. Guns should not be
allowed near ANYONE, not just near government officials. The real
solution to gun violence: Repeal the Second Amendment and get rid of
ALL the guns gradually. -T

Peter King, Leading Republican, To Introduce Strict Gun-Control Legislation
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/11/peter-king-strict-gun-control_n_807323.html

"Rep. Peter King, a Republican from New York, is planning to introduce
legislation that would make it illegal to bring a gun within 1,000 feet
of a government official, according to a person familiar with the
congressman's intentions."

Does anyone truly believe that this proposed law would have stopped
Loughner from doing what he did?
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this people has not so much lost its liberty as won its enslavement."
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Why We Shouldn’t Disarm Crazy People

Why We Shouldn't Disarm Crazy People
http://foodforthethinkers.wordpress.com/2011/01/11/why-we-shouldnt-disarm-crazy-people/

Michael Moore Is Right

Michael Moore Is Right
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Violence Begets Violence...and Government Is Violence

Violence Begets Violence...and Government Is Violence
http://www.strike-the-root.com/violence-begets-violenceand-government-is-violence

Column by Alex R. Knight III

Exclusive to STR

The recent shootings in Tucson, Arizona, involving Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, federal judge John Roll, and others has brought a tidal wave of outrage from the mainstream press, with those on the political left railing against what they perceive as the violence-inducing tirades emanating from everyone, apparently, from Michael Savage to Sarah Palin – while those on the right are offering somber condolences. The vitriol has reached a nearly apoplectic point. And through it all, it is nothing short of astonishing to witness that virtually no one is pointing out the obvious.

Government, by its very nature, must necessarily rely upon violence in order to perpetuate itself. Constantly, and without relent, bureaucrats all up and down the pecking order threaten us with violence in order to control our lives and property in a manner most consistent with their ideas of how we should be living and what our money and other belongings should be utilized for. It is literally as if we are being repeatedly punched in the face and kicked in the groin 24/7 – and then when someone, somewhere decides to hit back wildly, when someone finally snaps under the pressure, there is a collective indignant awe; a kind of shocked repulsive reflex: “What a crazed right-wing nut!” “Look what Rush Limbaugh did now!” “These tea-partiers are sickos!”

Truth is, friends, not only are such hollow diatribes woefully inaccurate – they miss the point entirely. These same accusers of the political right as the source of all earthly evil fail utterly to just look at themselves in a mirror once in a while. Just like the right-wing, they advocate for the existence of a monopolistic institution that uses violence on a routine basis in order to domineer the lives and property of others – yet strut around pompously as such moral, peace-loving, “sensitive” individuals. Make no mistake: Behind those rose-colored glasses, behind that ebullient smile, behind that fun-loving facade is a cop in riot gear with a baton, pepper spray, and a shotgun. Behind all the lip service to higher ideals is an orders-following soldier, a machine gun, a cache of bombs. There is nothing moral or peaceful about using government as a vehicle by which to shape the world in your image at the expense of someone else’s liberty. To suggest otherwise is a pathetic sham, and flagrant dishonesty – to say nothing of intellectual bankruptcy.

No sane person, of course, is going to defend these shootings – especially since several of the victims were just innocent bystanders, not government employees. Violence simply begets violence, and yet another wrong doesn’t make a right. That said, it is high time to grow up and realize that government behaves no differently as a constant matter of its very existence. Is anyone going to seriously contend that this is an acceptable manner for human beings to interact with one another?

Look, all that Voluntaryists/Libertarians/Anarchists (all synonymous terms) are saying is that we can do much better. In fact, if we’re going to survive as a species, we’d better – sooner rather than later. And all it takes is growing up, and living according to reality, instead of the deadly fantasy known as government.
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Alex R. Knight III is the author of numerous horror, science-fiction, and fantasy tales, including Victoria's Place and Other Tales of Terror. He has also written and published poetry; non-fiction articles, reviews, and essays for a variety of venues; and is former Communications Director for the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire. In 1998, he was awarded Activist of the Year for that organization. He now lives and writes in rural southern Vermont where he holds a B.A. in Literature & Writing from Union Institute & University, and looks forward to living in a government-less society of liberty.

Re: Tommy, Gays are sitting in the majority !!!!!!!!!! Have the same "Married" rights.

Markie Mark-

Your twisted pretzel glue logic and hypocritical hyperbole is false,
and does not pass muster, but it is also highly offensive and
misleading.

Same gender couples do NOT have the same rights as opposite gender
couples. Far, far, from it, in fact.
DOMA and many other laws which discriminate against same gendered
couples and LGBT people are unjust, unconstitutional, and based upon
animus, homophobia, and prejudice.

Civil Marriage is not the only right denied to LGBT people. In thirty
two states is is legal to fire people simply for being gay. Gays face
bullying, violemce, hatred, and homophobia on a daily basis, as
evidenced in this group and others. LGBT people are discriminated
against in many other ways you do not even realize. Financial
inequalities, disdain, hatred, and discrimination are rampant.

Nothing less than full LGBT EQUAL civil rights is acceptable. NOTHING less.

On 1/12/11, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tommy,
>
> All your hyperbole has led me to do a little fact finding. Your claim
> that Gays are discriminated against because of the "marriage" laws is
> just plain BS.
>
> LGBT people are a member of the majority in this regard according to
> the census. Un Married households now make up over 50% of the
> households in the USA.
>
> Welcome to being mainstream in this regard !!!! You no longer have a
> complaint for discrimination against a minority.... you are the
> majority.
>
>
>
> Census Data Shows that Unmarried Households Are Moving Toward a
> Majority in the Nation.
> Location Unmarried Households
> % of households headed
> by unmarried people
>
> per 1990 Census
> snapshot on
> April 1, 1990
>
> Unmarried Households
> % of households headed
> by unmarried people
>
> per 2000 Census
> snapshot on
> April 1, 2000
>
> Unmarried
> Households
> % of households headed
> by unmarried people
> per 2001 Census
> Supplemental
> Survey
> average for 12 months
> in 2001
>
> Unmarried
> Households
> % of households headed
> by unmarried people
> per 2002 Census
> American
> Community Survey
> average for 12 months
> in 2002
>
> Unmarried
> Households
> % of households headed
> by unmarried people
> per 2003 Census
> American Community Survey
> average for 12 months
> in 2003
>
> Unmarried
> Households
> % of households headed
> by unmarried people
> per 2004 Census
> American Community Survey
> average for 12 months
> in 2004
>
> Unmarried
> Households
> % of households headed
> by unmarried people
> per 2005 Census
> American Community Survey
> average for 12 months
> in 2005
>
> Unmarried
> Households
> % of households headed
> by unmarried people
> per 2006 Census
> American Community Survey
> average for 12 months
> in 2006
>
> Unmarried
> Households
> % of households headed
> by unmarried people
> per 2007 Census
> American Community Survey
> average for 12 months
> in 2007
>
>
>
> View
> unmarried majority cities View detailed tables
> for 2001
> Supplemental Survey
> for Nation and States From Census Report
> issued on Sept. 3,
> 2003 From Census Report
> issued on Aug. 26, 2004 From Census Report
> issued on Aug. 30, 2005 From Census Report
> issued on Aug. 15, 2006 From Census Report
> issued on Sept. 12, 2007 From Census Report
> issued on Sept. 23, 2008
> United States 44.9 48.3 49.4 49.5 49.6 49.8 50.3 50.3 50.3
> Alabama 43.0 47.8 49.3 47.1 49.5 49.1 50.2 50.6 50.9
> Alaska 43.8 47.5 48.4 45.0 49.6 47.8 50.1 49.0 48.3
> Arizona 45.4 48.1 49.9 47.4 49.9 48.8 51.1 50.3 50.5
> Arkansas 40.8 45.7 46.5 46.6 47.9 50.3 48.9 48.6 48.3
> California 47.3 48.9 50.5 50.6 50.0 50.0 50.3 50.2 50.3
> Colorado 46.2 48.2 49.6 48.0 48.0 50.2 50.1 49.4 49.8
> Connecticut 44.4 48.0 47.8 47.5 48.9 48.3 49.0 48.6 49.0
> Delaware 44.2 48.7 48.9 48.8 50.2 51.3 49.7 50.9 50.4
> Florida 45.6 49.6 51.1 51.1 51.8 51.7 52.1 51.4 51.8
> Georgia 44.8 48.5 49.3 49.9 50.1 50.7 50.5 51.5 51.1
> Hawaii 40.9 46.4 47.3 47.3 48.4 47.6 46.6 48.5 48.3
> Idaho 37.8 41.1 42.2 41.9 40.7 42.1 43.7 42.8 42.3
> Illinois 45.9 48.7 50.7 50.1 49.5 49.8 50.3 50.1 50.5
> Indiana 41.8 46.4 47.1 48.0 47.2 47.8 48.4 48.7 48.6
> Iowa 40.8 44.9 45.3 46.1 46.1 46.4 46.8 46.9 47.3
> Kansas 41.5 45.3 46.9 48.2 46.9 47.0 47.3 47.7 47.2
> Kentucky 40.8 46.1 45.7 46.9 46.4 47.0 48.5 49.6 49.7
> Louisiana 46.4 51.1 53.3 53.0 52.8 53.1 54.1 52.2 53.3
> Maine 41.9 47.5 46.8 47.5 49.2 48.6 48.7 49.5 47.9
> Maryland 45.8 49.8 50.9 49.8 50.7 52.2 51.0 51.3 51.6
> Massachusetts 47.9 51.0 51.9 50.7 51.3 51.7 52.4 51.9 52.4
> Michigan 44.9 48.6 49.0 49.4 49.2 49.6 49.9 49.9 50.3
> Minnesota 42.8 46.3 45.4 47.1 46.7 46.2 47.3 47.9 47.9
> Mississippi 45.3 50.2 52.0 51.2 52.2 52.7 53.5 53.7 52.6
> Missouri 43.7 48.0 47.9 48.0 48.5 48.6 49.7 49.9 49.9
> Montana 42.3 46.4 45.8 45.9 47.5 47.5 47.9 47.0 47.6
> Nebraska 41.8 45.8 46.5 46.4 46.3 46.7 47.6 47.1 47.9
> Nevada 48.6 50.3 51.4 51.5 52.2 52.4 52.5 52.6 51.8
> New Hampshire 40.3 44.7 44.4 45.2 45.3 45.5 45.7 46.9 45.0
> New Jersey 43.5 46.5 46.9 45.8 46.5 47.2 48.2 48.0 48.1
> New Mexico 44.0 49.6 50.6 51.1 51.3 54.0 52.1 52.4 53.9
> New York 50.1 53.4 54.1 54.7 54.5 54.1 55.1 54.9 54.6
> North Carolina 43.4 47.5 47.2 49.1 49.4 49.7 50.7 50.6 50.2
> North Dakota 40.9 46.6 48.3 48.8 47.9 48.2 49.0 49.2 49.5
> Ohio 43.9 48.6 50.3 50.1 49.6 50.1 50.6 51.1 51.0
> Oklahoma 42.3 46.5 47.4 46.9 47.9 49.7 49.0 49.5 49.5
> Oregon 44.4 48.1 49.8 50.1 49.7 50.3 50.6 50.4 50.1
> Pennsylvania 44.3 48.3 48.8 49.2 50.7 49.2 50.2 50.4 50.3
> Rhode Island 46.5 51.8 54.8 51.5 53.1 53.3 53.2 53.0 52.9
> South Carolina 43.6 48.9 50.1 50.1 50.1 50.1 51.8 51.8 52.3
> South Dakota 41.1 45.8 45.2 46.6 45.6 47.0 48.1 46.8 48.0
> Tennessee 42.8 47.4 49.1 48.9 49.4 50.2 50.2 50.4 50.8
> Texas 43.4 46.0 47.4 46.7 47.0 48.1 48.3 48.5 48.3
> Utah 35.2 36.8 38.3 36.2 37.6 37.0 38.5 38.1 37.7
> Vermont 43.6 47.5 46.5 46.5 49.6 48.2 51.5 49.9 50.1
> Virginia 43.2 47.2 47.9 48.1 48.2 47.8 48.8 49.5 49.4
> Washington 45.0 48.0 49.8 49.9 50.8 50.0 50.2 50.04 49.9
> West Virginia 41.0 46.0 46.8 48.1 48.3 47.5 47.5 47.5 48.0
> Wisconsin 42.5 46.8 48.6 48.0 48.5 48.4 49.2 48.5 48.7
> Wyoming 40.3 45.2 46.5 46.8 45.7 47.0 46.6 46.8 48.4
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Re: Sarah Palin: The "Blood Libel" in Tucson mass shooting is on Her Own Hands, but is also on ours.

Brucie Girl-

If you believe that is funny, than you are even sicker than I believed.
Perhaps we should all pray for Brucie Girl's full demise, as The world
would be a far better place without her sick, evil, vile, insindiary
insanity.

On 1/12/11, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
> So she can enjoy all her favorite activities
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In Tucson, Guns Have a Broad Constituency

In Tucson, Guns Have a Broad Constituency
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/11/us/11guns.html?_r=1

In Tucson, Guns Have a Broad Constituency
By JO BECKER and MICHAEL LUO
Published: January 10, 2011

TUCSON — “I have a Glock 9 millimeter, and I’m a pretty good shot.”

The quip, by Representative Gabrielle Giffords, was made in an interview last year with The New York Times, when tensions were running high in her district. It speaks not only to her ability to defend herself but also to the passionate gun culture in Arizona, which crosses political lines and is notable for its fierceness, even in the West.

Indeed, the federal judge who was killed on Saturday in the shootings here, John M. Roll, had his wife and many people who worked with him take lessons at the Marksman Pistol Institute, an indoor range downtown. One of the doctors who operated on Ms. Giffords after the shooting rampage was a member of the Pima Pistol Club, an outdoor range where federal and local law enforcement personnel were practicing on Monday.

Arizona’s gun laws stand out as among the most permissive in the country. Last year, Arizona became only the third state that does not require a permit to carry a concealed weapon. The state also enacted another measure that allowed workers to take their guns to work, even if their workplaces banned firearms, as long as they kept them in their locked vehicles.

In 2009, a law went into effect allowing people with concealed-weapons permits to take their guns into restaurants and bars.

It is unclear whether the attack on Saturday will do anything to shift attitudes about guns in this state. But at the federal level, gun control advocates have quickly zeroed in on the “high-capacity” ammunition magazine used by the suspect, Jared L. Loughner.

Gun magazines that hold more than 10 rounds were banned under the federal assault weapons ban until the statute expired at the end of 2004. Today, just six states and the District of Columbia limit the sale of such magazines.

Mr. Loughner was carrying two extended magazines that held 31 rounds each, as well as two "regular" magazines that were not high-capacity, when he opened fire with a semiautomatic pistol on a crowd outside a Tucson supermarket on Saturday, said Deputy Erin Gibson, a spokeswoman for the Pima County Sheriff's office. She added that deputies later recovered 31 shell casings.

It was only when he stopped to reload that bystanders were able to tackle him.

“The reason he was able to be tackled was he had to pause to reload,” said Dennis Henigan, vice president of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, a group that works to change gun laws and the gun industry. “The problem is, he didn’t have to pause to reload until he’d already expended 30 rounds.”

Representative Carolyn McCarthy, Democrat of New York, is preparing legislation to prohibit high-capacity magazines and could introduce a measure as early as this week, said Shams Tarek, a spokesman.

Mr. Tarek said Ms. McCarthy’s office had been in talks with the staff of Senator Frank R. Lautenberg, Democrat of New Jersey, about working together on the issue. “We’re trying to come up with something that’s reasonable, that has a chance to go somewhere,” Mr. Tarek said.

Public support for stricter gun control, however, has dropped significantly over the last couple of decades, and there is little evidence to suggest that mass shootings change opinions.

In a Gallup poll conducted in October, just 44 percent of Americans said the laws covering the sale of firearms should be made stricter, matching Gallup’s record low on the question set in 2009. The 1999 Columbine and 2007 Virginia Tech shootings appear to have had little, if any, effect on these views.

In Arizona, the liberalization of gun laws has accelerated over the last two years, after Jan Brewer, a Republican, succeeded Janet Napolitano, a Democrat, as governor in 2009, putting Republicans in control of both the Legislature and the governor’s office.

In the last two weeks, two bills were introduced relating to the right to carry guns on college campuses, one allowing professors to carry concealed weapons and one allowing anybody who can legally carry a gun to do so.

“Here in Arizona, it’s very difficult to change the culture,” said Hildy Saizow, president of Arizonans for Gun Safety. “But we’re going to try.”

Federal laws bar anyone who has been “adjudicated as a mental defective,” as well as those involuntarily committed to a mental health facility, from buying a gun. Administrators at Pima Community College banned Mr. Loughner from the school last year because they had concerns about his mental well-being, but the episode would not have risen to the level in which it would have shown up on a computerized background check, or legally barred him from buying a gun, legal experts said.

Similarly, federal law prohibits “unlawful” drug users and “addicts” from buying guns, based on recent convictions, or multiple arrests over the past five years. Mr. Loughner was arrested in 2007 for possession of drug paraphernalia; he successfully competed a court diversion program, which resulted in the charge’s being dropped from his record. He failed a drug test when trying to enlist in the Army in 2008, Pentagon officials said. But, it does not appear that any of this would have been enough to bar him from buying a gun, at least in Arizona.

A handful of other states, like New Jersey, Illinois and Massachusetts, where more extensive investigations of individuals seeking gun licenses are conducted, might have picked up some of these issues, said Josh Horwitz, executive director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.

Mr. Loughner legally bought his Glock 19, the same type of 9 millimeter pistol that Seung-Hui Cho, the Virginia Tech gunman used, on Nov. 30 at Sportsman’s Warehouse in Tucson, according to law enforcement officials. Not long before the shooting on Saturday, Mr. Loughner went to a Wal-Mart in the city to buy gun ammunition, but left the store before the sales person came back with the bullets, according to a person with knowledge of the situation who spoke only on the condition of anonymity because of the criminal investigation.

The individual said that Mr. Loughner then bought the ammunition he had sought at another Wal-Mart in Tucson.

F.B.I. agents visited local gun ranges here on Monday, trying to reconstruct his movements after he bought his gun. At the Marksman Pistol Institute, an agent entered shortly before noon, questioning the owner over the dulled popping sounds of gunfire.

The owner, Barbara O’Connell, had already checked the logs. Mr. Loughner had not been there, according to her paperwork, and no one recalled seeing him. The story was the same at another outdoor range.

Most people at the ranges said that, if anything, the shooting would cause more people to carry guns as a means of self-defense, rather than cause a retrenchment in the form of stricter laws.

“The criminals are going to have guns, so why should we as law-abiding citizens be punished for what a criminal does?” said Ms. O’Connell.

Ms. O’Connell lamented the death of Judge Roll, who was well known at the range: “He knew how to shoot, but he’d just been to church, and he probably didn’t have his gun.”

Serge Kovaleski and Dalia Sussman contributed reporting from New York; Clayton R. Norman contributed from Tuscon.

RE: Reagan; Dubya; Orange Boner, Cryer of the House...

One more point if I may <bitch>. Telling someone to “put the crack pipe down” is defamatory at best. I tend to put my drug related insults in the form of a question such as “have you been hogging the bong again Doc?” or “have you taken your meds today?). A question – NOT an accusation. ;-)

Yes, I have responded to trolls BUT I do it in such an EXTREME way purposefully. Most non-trolls get it. Some do not and think I am a nasty, ranting idiot. I don’t care.

READ the Subject Line of this thread and tell me the purpose of the poster was NOT to inflame ONLY. This garbage needs to stop or the group will be a cesspool for trolls and troll feeders. We all can decide if we want bothered with that kind of garbage.

From: politicalforum@googlegroups.com [mailto:politicalforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith In Köln
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:25
To: politicalforum@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reagan; Dubya; Orange Boner, Cryer of the House...

Hello CW!

Touche'....Point taken.

KeithIn Köln

Klicken Sie auf "Bestätigen" und die oben ausgewählten Vorteile sind automatisch in Ihrem persönlichen Bereich gespeichert!

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Cold Water <coldwater000@gmail.com> wrote:

Exposing fraud on the Internet. Golly gee whiz “Keet”, that is a big job!

This applies to both Tommy and studio -

let me that for you

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=troll+defined

(Follow the link)

Intelligent people do not feed the trolls. You continually respond to the troll posts over and over again as if you expect a different response (the definition of insanity) from the trolls. This type of thing certainly doesn’t indicate a “superior intellect” on your part and will deter others from joining and participating in a group of trolls and troll feeders.

PS Listing the many words to describe a leftist puke has grown tiresome. I would argue that most of Obama’s inner circle are Maoists or Stalinists but we could save that discussion for another day I suppose. Stop listing names and descriptions and get to the point FCS!!! You have worn it out Keith.

From: politicalforum@googlegroups.com [mailto:politicalforum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith In Köln
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 03:57
To: politicalforum@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reagan; Dubya; Orange Boner, Cryer of the House...

Again, if the group serves any purpose, it exposes fraud.

KeithIn Köln

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:06 PM, frankg <frankg2@gmail.com> wrote:

Wow, that's an awful lot of hate coming from someone on the left who
is always bitching about the hate coming from the right.

On Jan 11, 1:24 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Speaking of Crystal Balls, It is well known that grade "D" actress and
> fashion plate Nancy Davis Reagan and her "psychic" friends were making
> Presidential decisions for and behind Ronnie.
>
> In the context of Reagan's dimentia, it is worth reading Leslie
> Stahl's memoirs. She recalls that when she visited Reagan on her
> farewell visit after having covered the White House beat for all of
> his two terms in office, he had no idea who she was.
>

> On 1/10/11, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From our friend Jim:
>
> > RE: Orange Boner, Cryer of the House, Sheds Crocodile Tears Again a...
>
> > I thought that was a given that Ronald Reagan had Alzheimer's years before
> > he
> > became President.
>
> > (Before I go any further, I know whereof I speak concerning Alzheimer's.)
>
> > Like most people in the early stages of the disease, he was affable and
> > able to parrot what was given to him to read and/or say.
> > With his experience of doing this for a living, he became the "Great
> > Communicator."
> > What he communicated was what his handlers told him to say.
> > To hide his deficiencies, Nancy was constantly at his side...prompting him
> > and covering for him. She was his enabler.
> > That is the "normal behavior" for the spouse or significant other of an
> > Alzheimer's patient. They will pursue it relentlessly, calling it love, no
> > matter how harmful the deception.
> > Ronald Reagan was never properly intellectually able to be President.
> > That meant nothing to the morally bankrupt ReTHUGlican Party.
> > Neither was DUH-Byah. Again, there was no concern because all they needed
> > and wanted was a front (AKA Shill) to use as a diversion from their
> > destruction of America...for personal gain.
>
> > Both Reagan and Bush were what I refer to as Post Turtles.
>
> > Everybody knows a turtle cannot climb a fence post.
>
> > Put one up there to create a diversion while you go about your dastardly
> > deeds and then claim they are "Presidential policies."
>
> > Think "trickle down economics" and the illegal invasion of Iraq.
> > Both...crimes against our nation for the benefit of the power brokers.
>
> > Neither of those two had enough sense to craft a policy on anything. Much
> > less economics or war.
>
> > Reagan, because of his Alzheimer's.
>
> > Bush, because he's just plain stupid and a sociopath.
>
> > Both were the malleable court jesters for the powerful forces that put them
> > in office.
>
> > We suffer from what happened during the term of office for both of these
> > dunder heads. Our nation will continue to suffer for generations to come.
>
> > The latest twist or "innovation" on the Post Turtle theme is the Tea Party,
> > financed and controlled by billionaires who are also sociopaths.
>
> > With the current Gang of Five on the Supreme Court gutting the Constitution
> > to suit the power brokers, we're in for much more...and worse...of the
> > same insanity.
> > Our very existence as a nation is in jeopardy. Unlike the ReTHUGlicans,
> > that is not empty hyperbole!
> > Stay tuned...
> > Jim
>
> > I AM CONVINCED HIS ALZHEIMER'S WAS AFFECTING HIM BEFORE HE BECAME
> > PRESIDENT
>
> > --
> > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > Have a great day,
> > Tommy
>
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> Have a great day,
> Tommy

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