Saturday, April 30, 2011

Finally someone in the media speaks up about the Obama handling of the MSM

This is from the Poynter e-letter from Jim Romenesko at the Poynter
Journalism School. Glad to see they finally spoke up on the issue.
About time. Interesting that the point is made about how it seems as if
the MSM is acting as an additional arm of the WH re-election staff.
Does not mention bias but he really should since that is a huge part of
the problem:


http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/romenesko/130189/why-did-sf-chronicle-let-wh-official-complain-anonymously/


Why did SF Chronicle let WH official complain anonymously?

by Jim Romenesko
Published Apr. 29, 2011 1:01 pm
Updated Apr. 29, 2011 3:38 pm

Romenesko Letters
David Cay Johnston believes the Chronicle should have named the official
who complained about the paper posting a video of protesters at an Obama
fundraiser. "To let government officials complain anonymously is to
treat the government as a power unto itself rather than a creation of
the people (see Constitution, preamble)," he writes. "Why did editors
Ward Bushee and Phil Bronstein go along with granting the government
official who complained the privilege of not being named? If no
privilege was granted why do they withhold these crucial facts from
readers?" In his letter to Romenesko, Johnston also is critical of
"amateurs" in the White House press office. || Read the full letter.


From DAVID CAY JOHNSTON: The erosion of the most basic journalism
standards is vividly illustrated today by the San Francisco Chronicle's
appalling coverage of a story about itself and the Obama White House.

The story also reminds us of the continuing, though narrowed,
disconnect between candidate Obama's promises on open government and the
conduct of his taxpayer-paid press operatives, some of whom continue to
behave as if journalists are mere flacks.

First, the Chronicle.

Chronicle Washington correspondent Carolyn Lochhead reports that "the
White House threatened to exclude" the paper from pooled coverage of Bay
Area events for violating White House pool reporter rules because Carla
Marinucci of the Chronicle took video of an anti-Obama protest over
Private Bradley Manning. The Chronicle posted the video at its website
the next day, but bizarrely does not have it on the page where
Lochhead's article appears today.

Those rules require print reporters to stick to taking notes and
forbid them from posting images, audio or video even when citizens
around them are using recording devices.

Reporters who agree to rules must abide by them or reasonably expect
sanctions for violating their promises. The time to complain about rules
is in advance, before you give your word, even when the rules are stupid.

But which government official complained? And exactly what did this
unnamed official say? And to whom did they complain? Lochhead does not
tell readers. Instead Lochhead writes: "The White House press office
would not speak on the record about the issue."

The privilege of speaking in any way short of on the record by name
and title is solely and exclusively in the control of the journalist.

Did the Chronicle grant the complaining official the privilege of
complaining without taking responsibility for their words? Why would any
journalist do that? All complaints (excluding psychiatric cases) should
be heard, but never anonymous complaints from government officials. To
let government officials complain anonymously is to treat the government
as a power unto itself rather than a creation of the people (see
Constitution, preamble).

Why did editors Ward Bushee and Phil Bronstein go along with granting
the government official who complained the privilege of not being named?
If no privilege was granted why do they withhold these crucial facts
from readers?

Are Bushee and Bronstein in fear of the administration? Evidently not,
as they ran a story. So what could they be thinking in withholding this
information from their readers? Or not thinking, perhaps?

If Lochhead, Bushee, Brownstein or some other Chronicle journalist did
grant an anonymity privilege before hearing the complaint they should
stand up, acknowledge their bush league error and tell readers about
this mistake.

If no such privilege was granted before the complaint was made then
the official should be named and his or her exact words reported, as
well as to whom the complaint(s) were made.

And even if the privilege of was granted as to name then there is no
reason not to quote the precise words of the complaint, as well as
telling how high up the complaint came (White House press? Secret
Service? A third party?), how it was delivered – phone, email, mail or
in person – and when.

Among other things this would allow readers to judge for themselves if
the official government complaint constituted a "threat," as the
Chronicle reports and editorializes about, or a mere admonition that the
Chronicle must promise to abide by whatever rules it voluntarily agreed to.

Again: the journalist, not the source, controls the contours of the
communication. If you give your word you may have to go to jail to
defend it.

Whether any communication is on background or on deep background is
entirely in the control of the journalist. However, the journalist also
must take responsibility for her actions. "Off the record" makes
information useless, so when some says that is their wish it is useful
to spend a moment explaining the variations of less than fully on the
record attribution so the other person understands these crucial, but
subtle, issues.

Reporters should be careful about granting any privilege, insisting on
good reasons (the safety of life, whistleblowing). When a government
official makes a complaint they should be told their complaint will be
heard in full, but fully on the record and if otherwise then readers,
listeners and viewers deserve a full explanation.

Privilege is granted before, not after, words are spoken.

The citizen who rarely speaks with a reporter may be due more leeway,
but anyone in a high government post such as a White House press job
knows the rules and should be held to them.

The Chronicle also needs to tell readers the reasons it broke its word
when it agreed to the pool coverage rules, rather than doing the
honorable thing: complain first and if you cannot abide by the rules
either do not participate in the pool or declare your intentions. If the
Chronicle did complain then readers should be told about that.

To be clear, the White House rule here is incredibly outdated and is
now stupid, but if you choose to violate your word then you must assume
full responsibility for it.

The Chronicle needs to publish a corrective naming the official who
made the complaint with details or explaining why it cannot do so
without behaving dishonorably. And the top editors need to demonstrate
leadership on this basic issue of attribution and identification.

Now, the Obama administration.

Candidate Obama promised a fresh era of transparency and openness
after eight years of unnamed spokesman, anti-robot technology to hide
official information from search engines, outing an undercover CIA agent
and other conduct inimical to a free society and official accountability.

A week after the inauguration I reported on the amateur-hour,
controlling and withholding White House press operation for the Columbia
Journalism Review online.

Some critics argued it was much too soon to raise such issues. Since
then a number of other journalists have written about the same and other
problems with Obama's White House press operation, which is heavily
staffed by people with no experience as working reporters and who
sometimes treat reporters as if they were paid flacks working for the
administration.

I have found at cabinet agency public information shops that questions
about the reasons information is sought, and refusal to provide
information because of the expectation that a report will be critical,
persists in the agencies, despite the candidate's promises. Obama should
be held strictly accountable for these failures since he set a standard
with voters.

From Nixon through GWBush I always got White House press operations on
the record by name. Only Obama press aides sometimes continue to try and
speak without identifying themselves fully and asserting a pre-emptive
right to determine what is less than fully on the record.

A White House reporter, since departed, told me last year about an
inappropriate use of a backgrounder by the Obama White House. He said
when he complained no one other reporter backed him up. He said some of
the others later indicated they were fearful that being seen as
antagonistic to the administration would put their jobs in danger at a
time when thousands of journalists are out of work. There's a word for
that: cowardice.

The Obama White House needs to make its press operation just what the
candidate promised and, if necessary, replace amateurs with people who
have actually experience as journalists.

Reporters need to be clear and firm on standards of attribution.

Publishers, editors and producers need to tell their reporters in no
uncertain terms that they are not to be cowed by this or any other
administration and that hat will put their jobs in danger is not being
aggressive about getting the facts on the record with officials being
identified in full so they can be held accountable.

We all need to work against any further erosion of one of the most
basic standards of journalism, work vital to making those we temporarily
put in power accountable.

I hope those who read these words will email them to those who need to
hear them – Obama, Daniel Pfeiffer, Jay Carney, Bronstein, Bushee and
Lochhead among others — or print them out and post them in the newsroom,
including the White House press room.

—————

I invited Ward Bushee to respond. He says there were "off-the-record
exchanges required by key people in the White
House communications office who told us it would remove our reporter,
then threatened retaliation to Chronicle and Hearst reporters if we
reported on the ban, and then recanted to say our reporter might not be
removed afterall." He adds that "If the White House has indeed decided
not to ban our reporter, we would like an on-the-record notice that she
will remain the San Francisco print pool reporter."

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Re: Lefturds at D.C. Comics Force Superman To Renounce His U.S. Citizenship

Oh for christ's sake MJ, controlling how people can become citizens
once they get here certainly includes whether or not then can get
here, and what we can do when they do.

Here is the US Code, as constitutionally enacted by Congress.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/usc_sec_08_00001227----000-.html

You're not very good at playing bullshit semantics, and thats a
compliment.

On Apr 30, 12:09 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Only Congressmen and federal reps are given the right to "Travel" between or
> within States of which they are not citizens.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 9:10 AM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > Naturalization, of course, is the acquisition of citizenship and
> > nationality by somebody who was not a citizen or national of that country
> > when he or she was born and has absolutely NOTHING to do with Immigration.
> > You actually PROVE the point as such would have been the ideal place to
> > provide such a power.
>
> > Regard$,
> > --MJ
>
> > Modern nationalism and collectivism have, by the restriction of migration,
> > perhaps come nearest to the "servile state." …Man can hardly be reduced more
> > to a mere wheel in the clockwork of the national collectivist state that
> > being deprived of his freedom to move.... Feeling that he belongs now to his
> > nation, body and soul, he will be more easily subdued to the obedient state
> > serf which nationalist and collectivist governments demand. -- Wilhelm Röpke
>
> > At 10:35 AM 4/30/2011, you wrote:
>
> > The Constitution does not authorize the federal government to control
> > immigration.
> > ------------------------------------
>
> > Uhm, yes it does:
>
> > The Congress shall have Power  ...
>
> > To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,  Article 1, section 8
>
> > Next
>
> > On Apr 30, 9:02 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > At 07:38 AM 4/30/2011, you wrote:Just another illegal alien waiting to be
> > deported by Republitards.
> > > ----
> > > at it should ... our law says illegal aliens are to be deported
> > > they are criminals/parasites
> > > Actually, the Law of the Land provides no authority to the Congress to
> > make such laws in the first place.
> > > Regard$,
> > > --MJThe Constitution does not authorize the federal government to control
> > immigration. Nor does it say anything about illegal aliens. ... Sadly,
> > lawmakers have repeatedly interpreted this silence as license for
> > ill-conceived legislation. Congress began barring entry to the nation in
> > 1875 with prostitutes and convicts. Soon, all sorts of people fell short of
> > congressional glory: ex-convicts in 1882, along with Chinese citizens,
> > lunatics, and idiots. Paupers, polygamists, and people suffering from
> > infectious diseases or insanity made the list in 1891, while the illiterate
> > were banned in 1917. -- Becky Akers
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Re: [DailyKos] Wow, Obama is more clever than I thought....


Obama birth certificate: The Bernanke distraction?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/la-pn-birth-certificate-bernanke,0,1567654.story

"He could stop paying banks interest on their reserves, so they'd be more likely to loan them out"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20110428/us_time/httpswamplandtimecom20110427thefedsfirst
pressconferencebenbernankechannelsjerryseinfeldxidrssfullnationyahoo

Bernanke Says Everything is A-OK (Other than Employment, Non-Core Inflation, and Anything Else That Makes a Healthy Economy)   (3 months ago)

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/bernanke-says-everything-ok-other-employment-non-core-inflation-and-anything-else-makes-heal



On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 11:32 AM, <ProudLiberal7@aol.com> wrote:

Tom Tancredo: Obama Withheld Birth Certificate To Make Republicans Look 'Nuts'

Tancredo
Tom Tancredo (file).

Conservative firebrand and former Colorado congressman Tom Tancredo hasn't had particularly kind words for President Barack Obama. Last October, for instance, he said that the president was a greater threat to the country than Al Qaeda.

And he's long questioned where the president was actually born. When Michelle Obama described Kenya as her husband's "home country" in a speech in 2008, the anti-immigrant Tancredo responded, "If his wife says Kenya is his homeland, why don't we just send him back?"

So one might think that the release of President Obama's long-form birth certificate would humble the birther and radio host.

Not so much. In fact, Tancredo took the opportunity to gloat about his own prescience.

He issued a press release reminding readers of his comments a year ago on Alan Colmes' radio show regarding the birther controversy. Shortly after saying he had "absolutely no idea where [Obama] was born," Tancredo made these remarks about the whole fracas:

TANCREDO: Now they very well not want to show it because they want to propagate this whole thing that's going on about birthers. ... They may be doing it for that reason; I don't know why they don't want anyone to see it. ... They want it propagated because you know -

COLMES: It makes your party look nuts!

TANCREDO: Yeah well maybe that's why they don't produce document, I don't know.

He repeated that claim in the statement issued Friday. "Obama has followed Mohammed, not the religious leader, but the boxer. President Obama has pulled off the perfect Mohammed Ali rope-a-dope," he said in the release, according to the Colorado Independent.

The idea, according to Tancredo, is that Obama withheld his birth certificate until now simply for the purpose of making Republicans look foolish. And the analogy to Ali seems to suggest a begrudging admiration of the strategy.

In his most recent foray into electoral politics, Tancredo ran for Colorado Governor last year, winning 37 percent of the vote on the American Constitution Party ticket against Gov. John Hickenlooper, far out-gaining Republican Dan Maes.


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Re: Lefturds at D.C. Comics Force Superman To Renounce His U.S. Citizenship

Only Congressmen and federal reps are given the right to "Travel" between or within States of which they are not citizens. 

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 9:10 AM, MJ <michaelj@america.net> wrote:


Naturalization, of course, is the acquisition of citizenship and nationality by somebody who was not a citizen or national of that country when he or she was born and has absolutely NOTHING to do with Immigration. You actually PROVE the point as such would have been the ideal place to provide such a power.

Regard$,
--MJ

Modern nationalism and collectivism have, by the restriction of migration, perhaps come nearest to the "servile state." …Man can hardly be reduced more to a mere wheel in the clockwork of the national collectivist state that being deprived of his freedom to move.... Feeling that he belongs now to his nation, body and soul, he will be more easily subdued to the obedient state serf which nationalist and collectivist governments demand. -- Wilhelm Röpke




At 10:35 AM 4/30/2011, you wrote:
The Constitution does not authorize the federal government to control
immigration.
------------------------------------

Uhm, yes it does:

The Congress shall have Power  ...

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,  Article 1, section 8

Next

On Apr 30, 9:02 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> At 07:38 AM 4/30/2011, you wrote:Just another illegal alien waiting to be deported by Republitards.
> ----
> at it should ... our law says illegal aliens are to be deported
> they are criminals/parasites
> Actually, the Law of the Land provides no authority to the Congress to make such laws in the first place.
> Regard$,
> --MJThe Constitution does not authorize the federal government to control immigration. Nor does it say anything about illegal aliens. ... Sadly, lawmakers have repeatedly interpreted this silence as license for ill-conceived legislation. Congress began barring entry to the nation in 1875 with prostitutes and convicts. Soon, all sorts of people fell short of congressional glory: ex-convicts in 1882, along with Chinese citizens, lunatics, and idiots. Paupers, polygamists, and people suffering from infectious diseases or insanity made the list in 1891, while the illiterate were banned in 1917. -- Becky Akers

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Re: [libertarian-364] OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS A FRAUD -- HE NEEDS TO BE IMPEACHED!!

Linda:  I agree with you basically.  You have to understand that DC libertarians live in a liberal Democratic terrarium and easily fall into the cultural assumptions of the ruling class media with whom they socialize.  That's why they are berated by other libertarians, often unfairly, as "cosmotarians," "Beltway libertarians" ("Craniacs," "Kochtopus" etc).

Kyle and others:  I agree that EVERY other issue is more important than where Mama Sotero's placenta hit the ground.

John:  I agree with you that birthers aren't really "birthers."  They are transparency advocates protesting media bias and cover up (akin to the cover up of Clinton's sexual assaults and John Edward's love child with a deranged stalker employee and Teddy Kennedy's murder or manslaughter of a staffer he had probably impregnated and obviously committed adultery with, and the Kennedy administrations cover up of JFK's adultery and possible (delegated) murder of Marilyn Monroe --  not to mention Jesse Jackson, Dodd, Waters, Rangels etc financial shenanigans -- i.e. their constant cover ups of major character flaws of Democratic leaders) and Obama's lawyers spending millions to seal these records, including transcripts, client lists etc.

Let's not call each other names.  (Unless I do it!)  Let's have a forum where people can express weird, unheard of, and undesirable opinions, including your own.  And you are free to ignore them or object.

By the way Kyle, I have seen no reply to the Denninger video that purports (persuasively prima facie IMHO) that the release document is obviously a composed image and not an image of a unitary original document.

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 3:22 PM, John <e-v> wrote:
First, I believe it's more productive to talk about "sealers" (who supported keeping Obama's birth and other records secret) and "anti-sealers" (who support making them public record) than "birthers" and "anti-birthers."

Second, I would support impeaching Obama for *real* reasons, such as violating the War Powers Act, and for other violations of the Constitution and of his oath.
The problem is that it would make Joe Biden become President, and Biden is actually worse than Obama.
Let's start by impeaching folks like Eric Holder, Hilda Solis, and Kathleen Sibelius, who actually carried out the policies that Obama wanted, e.g. racial discrimination by the US Department of Justice.
I'll also point out that, like Bill Clinton, Obama is doing a good job of poisoning the Democratic Party.
15 years ago Andrew Sullivan (whose brain had not yet been damaged by AIDS the way it is now, poor guy) said that he wanted Clinton to be the "last man standing" in the Democratic Party, and Christopher Hitchens (whose health had not yet been ravaged by cancer, poor guy) said Clinton would soon have "no one left to lie to."
I figure the same applies to Obama.
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The Hypocrite Krugman on Ron Paul and Unemployment


The Hypocrite Krugman on Ron Paul and Unemployment
Posted by Thomas DiLorenzo on April 30, 2011 08:39 AM

Paul Krugman seems to be losing his mental capacity at an especially rapid rate these days.  His latest idiotic remark is that the reason the Fed is "doing nothing" about unemployment ( He's wrong: The Fed has CREATED plenty of unemployment) is that Ron Paul is the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee.  This is a theme among the more rabid Fed defenders -- that criticisms of the Fed by people like Ron Paul actually created the "Great Recession" by somehow restraining the central planning powers of the Fed.

Krugman sounds not only silly but hypocritical as well.  Ron Paul's first hearing on the Fed was on the subject of the Fed and unemployment.  I was the lead witness.  As LRC readers know, the hearing was turned into a farce by a shameless liar named Congressman Lacy Clay (D-Banksters).  Clay first proclaimed that no amount of money printing could possibly reduce the value of the dollar, ever.  Then he denounced Austrian economics on methodological grounds.  (An uneducated  hack politician from North St. Louis posing as a philosopher of science is arguably the dumbest stunt ever at a congressional hearing).  He then lied about my resume, claiming that there were no economics publications on it (!), and then lied again, claiming that I "work for" the League of the South, which he denounced as a "hate group" (the group does hate Big Government, admittedly).  I have never worked for the League of the South, and said so by interrupting Clay when he made this ridiculous smear.

All of the lapdog statist media, including Paul Krugman, repeated Clay's lies and libels and wrote absolutely nothing at all about what I and fellow Paulian witness Professor Richard Vedder said about the Fed and unemployment.  The purpose of this charade was to "censor" criticisms of the Fed, and of course to attempt to smear Ron Paul.

Re: Lefturds at D.C. Comics Force Superman To Renounce His U.S. Citizenship



Naturalization, of course, is the acquisition of citizenship and nationality by somebody who was not a citizen or national of that country when he or she was born and has absolutely NOTHING to do with Immigration. You actually PROVE the point as such would have been the ideal place to provide such a power.

Regard$,
--MJ

Modern nationalism and collectivism have, by the restriction of migration, perhaps come nearest to the "servile state." …Man can hardly be reduced more to a mere wheel in the clockwork of the national collectivist state that being deprived of his freedom to move.... Feeling that he belongs now to his nation, body and soul, he will be more easily subdued to the obedient state serf which nationalist and collectivist governments demand. -- Wilhelm Röpke




At 10:35 AM 4/30/2011, you wrote:
The Constitution does not authorize the federal government to control
immigration.
------------------------------------

Uhm, yes it does:

The Congress shall have Power  ...

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,  Article 1, section 8

Next

On Apr 30, 9:02 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> At 07:38 AM 4/30/2011, you wrote:Just another illegal alien waiting to be deported by Republitards.
> ----
> at it should ... our law says illegal aliens are to be deported
> they are criminals/parasites
> Actually, the Law of the Land provides no authority to the Congress to make such laws in the first place.
> Regard$,
> --MJThe Constitution does not authorize the federal government to control immigration. Nor does it say anything about illegal aliens. ... Sadly, lawmakers have repeatedly interpreted this silence as license for ill-conceived legislation. Congress began barring entry to the nation in 1875 with prostitutes and convicts. Soon, all sorts of people fell short of congressional glory: ex-convicts in 1882, along with Chinese citizens, lunatics, and idiots. Paupers, polygamists, and people suffering from infectious diseases or insanity made the list in 1891, while the illiterate were banned in 1917. -- Becky Akers

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Re: 'Transparent' Obama Banishes Reporter for Videoing Protesters at Fundraiser in SF

This is the real link:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/bronstein/detail?entry_id=87978#ixzz1Kw82ehi5

He's a "transparent" asshole

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Re: Is She Really One of the World’s 100 ‘Most Influential’ People?

Unfortunately Gabby's influence was not her idea, a not her doing.

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Re: Travis...if Medicare and Social Security is so bad...

The bad (worst) thing about Social Security is congress can rape and
pillage it any time they like.

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Re: Lefturds at D.C. Comics Force Superman To Renounce His U.S. Citizenship

The Constitution does not authorize the federal government to control
immigration.
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Uhm, yes it does:

The Congress shall have Power ...

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, Article 1, section 8

Next

On Apr 30, 9:02 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> At 07:38 AM 4/30/2011, you wrote:Just another illegal alien waiting to be deported by Republitards.
> ----
> at it should ... our law says illegal aliens are to be deported
> they are criminals/parasites
> Actually, the Law of the Land provides no authority to the Congress to make such laws in the first place.
> Regard$,
> --MJThe Constitution does not authorize the federal government to control immigration. Nor does it say anything about illegal aliens. ... Sadly, lawmakers have repeatedly interpreted this silence as license for ill-conceived legislation. Congress began barring entry to the nation in 1875 with prostitutes and convicts. Soon, all sorts of people fell short of congressional glory: ex-convicts in 1882, along with Chinese citizens, lunatics, and idiots. Paupers, polygamists, and people suffering from infectious diseases or insanity made the list in 1891, while the illiterate were banned in 1917. -- Becky Akers

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I'll Take the Reactionary Over the Murderer, Thanks


I'll Take the Reactionary Over the Murderer, Thanks
by Charles Davis

Ron Paul is far from perfect, but I'll say this much for the Texas congressman: He has never authorized a drone strike in Pakistan. He has never authorized the killing of dozens of women and children in Yemen. He hasn't protected torturers from prosecution and he hasn't overseen the torturous treatment of a 23-year-old young man for the "crime" of revealing the government's criminal behavior.

Can the same be said for Barack Obama?

Yet, ask a good movement liberal or progressive about the two and you'll quickly be informed that yeah, Ron Paul's good on the war stuff -- yawn -- but otherwise he's a no-good right-wing reactionary of the worst order, a guy who'd kick your Aunt Beth off Medicare and force her to turn tricks for blood-pressure meds. By contrast, Obama, war crimes and all, provokes no such visceral distaste. He's more cosmopolitan, after all; less Texas-y. He's a Democrat. And gosh, even if he's made a few mistakes, he means well.

Sure he's a murderer, in other words, but at least he's not a Republican!

Put another, even less charitable way: Democratic partisans -- liberals -- are willing to trade the lives of a couple thousand poor Pakistani tribesman in exchange for a few liberal catnip-filled speeches and NPR tote bags for the underprivileged. The number of party-line progressives who would vote for Ron Paul over Barack Obama wouldn't be enough to fill Conference Room B at the local Sheraton, with even harshest left-leaning critics of the president, like Rolling Stone's Matt Taibbi, saying they'd prefer the mass-murdering sociopath to that kooky Constitution fetishist.

As someone who sees the electoral process as primarily a distraction, something that diverts energy and attention from more effective means of reforming the system, I don't much care if people don't vote for Ron Paul. In fact, if you're going to vote, I'd rather you cast a write-in ballot for Emma Goldman. But! I do have a problem with those who imagine themselves to be liberal-minded citizens of the world casting their vote for Barack Obama and propagating the notion that someone can bomb and/or militarily occupy Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen and Libya and still earn more Progressive Points than the guy who would, you know, not do any of that.

Let's just assume the worst about Paul: that he's a corporate libertarian in the Reason magazine/Cato Institute mold that would grant Big Business and the financial industry license to do whatever the hell it wants with little in the way of accountability (I call this scenario the "status quo"). Let's say he dines on Labradoodle puppies while using their blood to scribble notes in the margins of his dog-eared, gold-encrusted copy of Atlas Shrugged.

So. Fucking. What.

Barack Obama isn't exactly Eugene Debs, after all. Hell, he's not even Jimmy Carter. The facts are: he's pushed for the largest military budget in world history, given trillions of dollars to Wall Street in bailouts and near-zero interest loans from the Federal Reserve, protected oil companies like BP from legal liability for environmental damages they cause -- from poisoning the Gulf to climate change -- and mandated that all Americans purchase the U.S. health insurance industry's product. You might argue Paul's a corporatist, but there's no denying Obama's one.

And at least Paul would -- and this is important, I think -- stop killing poor foreigners with cluster bombs and Predator drones. Unlike the Nobel Peace Prize winner-in-chief, Paul would also bring the troops home from not just Afghanistan and Iraq, but Europe, Korea and Okinawa. There'd be no need for a School of the Americas because the U.S. wouldn't be busy training foreign military personnel the finer points of human rights abuses. Israel would have to carry out its war crimes on its own dime.

Even on on the most pressing domestic issues of the day, Paul strikes me as a hell of a lot more progressive than Obama. Look at the war on drugs: Obama has continued the same failed prohibitionist policies as his predecessors, maintaining a status quo that has placed 2.3 million -- or one in 100 -- Americans behind bars, the vast majority African-American and Hispanic. Paul, on the other hand, has called for ending the drug war and said he would pardon non-violent offenders, which would be the single greatest reform a president could make in the domestic sphere, equivalent in magnitude to ending Jim Crow.

Paul would also stop providing subsidies to corporate agriculture, nuclear energy and fossil fuels, while allowing class-action tort suits to proceed against oil and coal companies for the environmental damage they have wrought. Obama, by contrast, is providing billions to coal companies under the guise of "clean energy" -- see his administration's policies on carbon capture and sequestration, the fossil fuel-equivalent of missile defense -- and promising billions more so mega-energy corporations can get started on that " nuclear renaissance" we've all heard so much about. And if Paul really did succeed in cutting all those federal departments he talks about, there's nothing to prevent states and local governments -- and, I would hope, alternative social organizations not dependent on coercion -- from addressing issues such as health care and education. Decentralism isn't a bad thing.

All that aside, though, it seems to me that if you're going to style yourself a progressive, liberal humanitarian, your first priority really ought to be stopping your government from killing poor people. Second on that list? Stopping your government from putting hundreds of thousands of your fellow citizens in cages for decades at a time over non-violent "crimes" committed by consenting adults. Seriously: what the fuck? Social Security's great and all I guess, but not exploding little children with cluster bombs – shouldn't that be at the top of the Liberal Agenda?

Over half of Americans' income taxes go to the military-industrial complex and the costs of arresting and locking up their fellow citizens. On both counts, Ron Paul's policy positions are far more progressive than those held -- and indeed, implemented -- by Barack Obama. And yet it's Paul who's the reactionary of the two?

My sweeping, I'm hoping overly broad assessment: liberals, especially the pundit class, don't much care about dead foreigners. They're a political problem at best -- will the Afghan war derail Obama's re-election campaign? -- not a moral one. And liberals are more than willing to accept a few charred women and children in some country they'll never visit in exchange for increasing social welfare spending by 0.02 percent, or at least not cutting it by as much as a mean 'ol Rethuglican.

Mother Jones' Kevin Drum, for example, has chastised anti-Obama lefties, complaining that undermining -- by way of accurately assessing and commenting upon -- a warmonger of the Democratic persuasion is "extraordinarily self-destructive" to all FDR-fearing lefties.

"Just ask LBJ," Drum added. The historical footnote he left out: That LBJ was run out of office by the anti-war left because the guy was murdering hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese. But mass murder is no reason to oppose a Democratic president, at least not if you're a professional liberal.

There are exceptions: Just Foreign Policy's Robert Naiman has a piece in Truth Out suggesting the anti-war left checking out Gary Johnson, the former governor of New Mexico who's something of a Ron Paul-lite. But for too many liberals, it seems partisanship and the promise -- not even necessarily the delivery, if you've been reading Obama's die-hard apologists -- of infinitesimally more spending on domestic programs is more important than saving the lives of a few thousand innocent women and children who happen to live outside the confines of the arbitrary geopolitical entity known as the United States.

Another reason to root -- if not vote -- for Ron Paul: if there was a Republican in the White House, liberals just might start caring about the murder of non-Americans again.


http://charliedavis.blogspot.com/2011/04/ill-take-reactionary-over-murderer.html

Rescue the Republican Party from the Interventionists


Rescue the Republican Party from the Interventionists
By Doug Bandow
Published 04/27/11

The U.S. government is essentially bankrupt, with debts and other unfunded obligations filling the horizon. Yet virtually every rich ally of America has its hand out, expecting U.S. taxpayers to pay for its defense. And policymakers of both parties are only too happy to oblige.

Washington also is intent on remaking the globe. While fighting a bitter guerrilla war in a Central Asian nation and occupying a Middle Eastern country, the Obama administration has started bombing a North African land. There apparently is no foreign war in which Democrats and Republicans alike are not prepared to launch.

Yet most of the leading voices in the Republican Party are upset that the U.S. government isn't doing more abroad. In promoting social engineering around the globe GOP politicians sound like liberal Democrats. The U.S. should spend ever more money and fight more wars overseas. To instead focus on solving America's problems is to be labeled a so-called "isolationist," at least in their warped way of thinking.

One most fervent Republican laptop bombardiers is Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC). Sen. Graham has never found a war that he didn't want America to fight. He has never found another nation which didn't deserve to be bombed, invaded, or occupied by U.S. forces. To no one's surprise, he is one of the cheerleaders for attacking Libya. The lack of any discernible American security interest hasn't deterred him from demanding that the administration oust Moammar Qaddafi from power.

Sen. Graham also enjoys spending money. He currently wants Washington to increase foreign aid for Egypt after having provided tens of billions of dollars in the past. Never mind that those past transfers have disappeared. Don't worry that it isn't clear who is in charge now. And don't be bothered about who is going to be in charge if elections are held. More good money should be dumped after bad: "Any Republican who says the U.S. shouldn't be spending money in Egypt right now doesn't understand the benefits." If only the good senator would explain what they are.

However, Sen. Graham is not entirely disconnected from reality. He recognizes that the American people are less than enthused about proposals for new wars and more outlays overseas. Indeed, he worries that "it doesn't take long before" the Republican party "finds a war-weary nation and exploits it." He seems particularly worried about the new Tea Party generation, and the "unholy alliance" between politicians like Senator Rand Paul (R-KY), Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), Rep. Walter Jones (R-NC), and some on the left, such as Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), which could promote a constitutional noninterventionist foreign policy.

Graham fears a foreign policy debate because he realizes that he speaks only for the small political elite which run Washington. Wannabe social engineers naturally flock to the imperial city and they believe the U.S. should act as an imperial nation. In contrast, most Americans, whatever their overall philosophy, have little desire to forcibly remake the world. They are extremely generous, but tire of being taken advantage of by friends and foes alike. They believe in freedom, but see little reason why Americans should die defending other nations which are well able to care for themselves.

In fact, what Rep. Paul and most Americans believe is the best kind of internationalism. Most foreign relations should be among peoples rather than governments. Americans should be free to engage others. To trade for mutual economic advantage. To cooperate to promote shared interests. To provide aid in response to tragedy or poverty.

The U.S. government also has a role: protecting the liberty, territory, and prosperity of Americans. Washington should act militarily only as a last resort and to protect U.S. security. The U.S. government shouldn't sell out American interests by allowing other nations to make decisions for America in the name of misguided internationalism. And U.S. policymakers shouldn't sell out American values by attempting to impose Washington's policies on other nations.

The hyper-interventionism advocated by Sen. Graham runs against the most basic principles underlying the American republic. The colonists revolted against imperial rule. They did not set up a new nation in the hopes of imposing imperial rule upon others.

Moreover, they wanted a limited government dedicated to the protection of individual liberties. But it is difficult, if not impossible, to maintain a republic at home while enforcing an empire abroad. Even if that empire imposes a lighter yoke than previous variants.

As Randolph Bourne famously observed, "war is the health of the state." The U.S. currently accounts for half of the world's military spending. In real terms, America spends twice what it did on the military just a decade ago. And Washington today spends more in inflation-adjusted dollars than it did at any point during the Cold, Korean, or Vietnam Wars. It does not do so to protect America. It does so in an attempt to run the world.

Yet intervention never seems to end. Instead, intervention begets intervention. For instance, supporting dictators in Cuba and Nicaragua helped trigger communist revolutions, which then led to American attempts at counter-revolution.

The U.S. ousted Iran's democratically-elected government in 1953. A quarter century later the Islamists pushed out America's friendly dictator. The U.S. then backed Iraq against Iran, only later to turn against Iraq when it acted aggressively -- as Washington had feared Tehran would do. But ousting Saddam Hussein reestablished Iranian dominance in the Gulf, leading the U.S. most recently to back the Sunni monarchy in Bahrain in its crackdown on Shia democracy demonstrators, lest the latter turn to Iran. Rabid neocons want to start bombing Iran yesterday. And so it goes.

Sen. Graham is a prime example of unprincipled intervention. A couple of years ago he was supping with Moammar Qaddafi in Tripoli and discussing military aid. After all, the good colonel had given up his nuclear programs, taken on al-Qaeda fighters, and rejoined the "international community." Now Sen. Graham wants the U.S. military to oust Qaddafi. If the rebels take over and turn out to be other than Western-style liberals, next year Sen. Graham is likely to be advocating a new, American-backed war of liberation in Libya.

Alas, most of the names mentioned as possible Republican presidential contenders seem to share Sen. Graham's enthusiasm for sending young Americans out to bomb, invade, and occupy other nations for most any reason other than America's defense. Indeed, Libya is most closely modeled after Kosovo, where President Bill Clinton appeared to go to war because there were absolutely no U.S. interests at stake. Thus, he could feel good about himself. Never mind what was right for America.

The starting point for American foreign policy is America, both its values and interests. The best way to advance them is to construct a foreign policy of restraint, one devoted to respecting and protecting a republic with a limited government based on individual liberty.

The result is not isolationism. To the contrary, the American people should be freely involved in the world as traders and travelers, spurring commerce, sharing culture, and providing charity. Americans should be simultaneously teaching and learning. The U.S. government, too, should be engaged, cooperating with other states and international organizations when appropriate.

But promiscuous meddling should be avoided. And war always should be a last resort. Uncle Sam should not be an imperious scold, an obnoxious overlord, a moralistic dictator. Such a role is unbecoming a nation created to be a shining city on the hill, an example to the world. Perhaps more important today, it's an impossible role for an improvident power which can't pay its bills. The time for imperial neoconservatism is over.

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=1424

The Corruption of Law Leads To Tyranny


The Corruption of Law Leads To Tyranny
by Paul Craig Roberts
Trends Research Institute

Remember when Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld told the world that Guantanamo Prison held "the most dangerous, best-trained, vicious killers on the face of the earth" and gave assurances that nevertheless "we're treating these people as if the Geneva Convention applied?" The files on each prisoner, leaked by a US government whistleblower to Wikileaks and now available to the world, prove beyond all doubt that Rumsfeld was lying as was President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney when they repeated the lies.

The successor Obama administration in Washington, after the release of 607 of the "most dangerous men on earth" for lack of any evidence that represented any kind of danger at all, many after being tortured and abused, now claims that the remaining 172 are too dangerous to release, despite the lack of any evidence that would allow the government to try them.

Since the US government admits it was wrong in 78 percent of the cases, how do we know that the government is right about the remaining 22 percent?

Astonishingly, the government is afraid to attempt to try more than 40 of the remaining prisoners even in its special kangaroo courts – Military Tribunals – set up specially for the purpose of trying people with secret, non-declared evidence. That leaves 132 to be held in prison for their lifetimes without any evidence ever being presented against them – not even show trial "evidence." Even Joseph Stalin's victims got a show trial.

The Guantanamo prisoners were a collection of the most unlikely "dangerous people in the world." How dangerous is an 89-year old villager suffering from senile dementia or a 14-year old boy who had been kidnapped?

Many prisoners were not even suspected of being al Qaeda, Taliban, or anything other than a possible source of information. One British citizen was held for years simply because he had been captured and imprisoned by the Taliban, and the Americans thought he could tell them about Taliban interrogation techniques. A cameraman for the Arab News Service, Al Jazeera, was held in order to question him about the news service, which is based in Qatar, an American puppet state. Most of the prisoners were simply people kidnapped by warlords and sold to the gullible Americans for the bounty that the US paid for "terrorists."

Obviously, President Bush's assurance (September 6, 2006) that "we have in place a rigorous process to ensure those held at Guantanamo Bay belong at Guantanamo" was just another lie.

It turns out that the only evidence that the Americans had of "dangerous men" were the inventions conjured up by men under torture or by men producing "evidence" against others in exchange for their own release. Having violated all known laws in order to hold the prisoners, the US government was desperate to produce evidence that the prisoners were dangerous men.

Yemeni prisoner, Yasim Basardah, invented information against 135 of the Guantanamo prisoners. Abu Zubaydah, described by the Americans as the third-ranking leader of al Qaeda, turned out to be a lowly car pool driver, but nevertheless produced "evidence" against 100 other prisoners after being water-boarded 83 times. Even the prison camp commander realized that the "evidence" was bogus.

The sordid truth of Guantanamo is that the US government needed examples to justify the massive "terrorist threat" that it declared with alert set on orange, one step below red, as a permanent fixture of American life. Like Stalin, earlier, who needed examples of "enemies of the people," the US government conducted "street sweeps," which was the way the Soviet secret police produced "enemies of the people." The Soviet police would just go out in the streets and arrest everyone there. The Americans took people out of Taliban prisons, university libraries, and paid bounties for kidnapped victims. These people became "the most dangerous men on earth."

The lawlessness and brutality associated with Guantanamo were pointless. The US government destroyed the reputation of the United States and the rule of law for nothing. It is a terrible experience to have years of one's life stolen and to be tortured into false confession, but the price that Americans will pay will be much higher.

The Obama regime has endorsed the Bush regime's violation of the US Constitution. It has made indefinite detention in concentration camps an enduring American institution. Habeas corpus, due process, and the right to an attorney are now dead-letter legal rights for anyone accused with or without evidence of being a "suspect."

The rule of law has been murdered. The routine abuse of citizens by unaccountable powers – such as air travelers forced by Transportation Safety Administration to submit to radioactive scans or endure intrusive gropes – is seeping into all aspects of American life. The latest manifestation is the practice of state police downloading all information from motorists' cell phones when they are stopped for traffic violations.

A government based on fear of terrorism, whose executive claims power not limited by the Constitution or Congress for the duration of an open-ended "war on terror," will create a state of tyranny.

Only a highly aroused people who refuse to submit can escape the coming tyranny.

Reprinted from the Trends Research Institute.

Re: Lefturds at D.C. Comics Force Superman To Renounce His U.S. Citizenship

At 07:38 AM 4/30/2011, you wrote:
Just another illegal alien waiting to be deported by Republitards.
----
at it should ... our law says illegal aliens are to be deported
they are criminals/parasites


Actually, the Law of the Land provides no authority to the Congress to make such laws in the first place.

Regard$,
--MJ

The Constitution does not authorize the federal government to control immigration. Nor does it say anything about illegal aliens. ... Sadly, lawmakers have repeatedly interpreted this silence as license for ill-conceived legislation. Congress began barring entry to the nation in 1875 with prostitutes and convicts. Soon, all sorts of people fell short of congressional glory: ex-convicts in 1882, along with Chinese citizens, lunatics, and idiots. Paupers, polygamists, and people suffering from infectious diseases or insanity made the list in 1891, while the illiterate were banned in 1917. -- Becky Akers

Tibor Machan Interview: live on 5/1





This weekend, Sunday May 1, Tibor Machan is being interviewed live for three hours on C-SPAN's Book-TV. See http://www.booktv.org/Program/12422/In+Depth+Tibor+Machan.aspx
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Re: Allen West: Has the Militarist Right Found its New Warlord?

the good news is that ROTC students are treated as outcasts in schools

Future Warmongers Beware!

On Apr 29, 12:12 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> West isn't even a contender and yet those very things are happening in
> the educational system NOW....
>
> On Apr 29, 10:26 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Tuesday, April 26, 2011Allen West: Has the Militarist Right Found its New Warlord?William N. Grigg
> > (Photo composite by William Wallace Grigg.)Hello,Tea Partiers. Look at your president. Now back to me. Now back at your president. Now –backtome.Sadly, your president isn't me…. Look down. Back up -- where are you? You're in a torchlight parade led by the man who could be your president! What's in your hand? –back at me. I have it – it's that Constitution that you say you love. Look again – your Constitution has been replaced by amilitary junta! Anything is possible when your man smells likewhite phosphorous.I'm on a white horse."I want to start a draft Allen West movement!" exclaimed Glen Beckduring his April 21st radio program. The radio personality has been cooing and burbling about West for months. He's convinced that the retired Army Lt. Colonel -- who wascashiered in disgraceforabusing a prisonerin a fashion that merited prosecution underArticle 93 of the UCMJ-- is the "man of honor" our troubled country needs.
> > Of course, Beck isn't the only one infatuated with West: the freshman congressman from Florida is emerging as something of anOld Spice Guyfor the punitive populist Right.
> > "The next president will be either the end or the beginning of our country," Beck intoned, taking note of the potentially apocalyptic consequences of the metastasizing debt and our continued descent into an economic abyss. West has displayed no measurable interest in reducing the size and expense of the Leviathan State. In fact, the contrary is true: Before being elected to represent a Florida congressional district, West was an employee of the wealth-devouring, debt-propelled imperial military. His career as a hireling killer is what Beck describes as his most alluring trait.
> > "He has a strong military background," Beck gushed. "The guy was led through war, and he's not afraid to pull the trigger."
> > With Washington's legions engaged in three open wars and at least five covert conflicts, it's clear that the incumbent warlord is not hindered by a disinclination to "pull the trigger." In fact, under the reign of the Nobel Peace Laureate, Washington's military entanglements have expanded considerably and deepened dramatically, particularly through the use of death-dispensing drone aircraft.
> > In terms of bellicosity overseas, a President Allen West would most likely take up seamlessly from his predecessor. The substantive difference between the two would become apparent in domestic affairs: West's model of an ideal society isthe proto-fascist totalitarian state that ruled ancient Sparta.
> > In a recent address to a meeting of the Evangelical group "Women Impacting the Nation," West extolled the supposed virtues of the Spartan system, in which children (at least those who made the initial cut as newborns and weren't selected as genetic culls to be hurled from a cliff) were stolen from their parents and raised as the property of the State. "Spartan women at the age of nine gave up their male sons," West recounted to the gathering. "And their male sons went into a training that was called the Agoge and they stayed in that training for the next eleven to twelve years. And when they were finally qualified, when they were finally ready to join the ranks for the Spartan army, it was not their father who gave them their cloak and shield. It was their mother who gave them their shield" -- while uttering the famous admonition to return either carrying the shield in triumph, or as a lifeless corpse being carried upon it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLTScYwQvSs&feature=player_embeddedTheironies are thick enough here to blot out the sun, but it's sufficient to focus on three of them. First, the Evangelical women in the audience can be heard swooning with approval as West hymns the purported merits of a thoroughly pagan society that embodied the antithesis of every Christian virtue. Second, West -- who insists that we must either subjugate or annihilate Muslims because they "have no respect for human life" -- apparently believes that America should re-model itself after a garrison state built on a foundation of institutionalized child sacrifice on behalf of the State.
> > Even more remarkably, the same Allen West who recently sent a thrill down the leg of many Right-collectivist warbots by denouncing the integration of homosexuals into the imperial military heaped extravagant praise on a military indoctrination system built on what Dr. Paul Cartledge of Cambridge University calls "ritualized pederasty." Enforced homosexuality was part of the process whereby Spartan boys became "qualified" (as West so daintily put it) for service in the city-state's army. In his bookThe Spartans: The World of the Warrior-Heroes of Ancient Greece, from Utopia to Crisis and Collapse, Dr. Cartledge observes that after a Spartan boy's seventh birthday "he was removed from the home environment, for good, to embark on the compulsory and communal educational system know as the Agoge or Raising/Upbrining. Between the ages of seven and eighteen the boys and youths were organized in `packs' and `herds' and placed under the supervision of young adult Spartans. They were encouraged to break the exclusive ties with their own natal families and to consider all Spartans of their father's age to bein loco parentis."
> > At the age of twelve, the Spartan male "was expected to receive a young adult warrior as his lover -- the technical Spartan term for the active senior partner was `inspirer,' while the junior partner was known as the `hearer,'" relates Dr. Cartledge. When the Spartan boy reached age eighteen he was evaluated for membership in the Crypteia, a police force assigned "to control the Helots" -- a population of civilian slaves who lived under a form of martial law and could be killed, with impunity, by the Spartan police.
> > If Barack Obama -- or even some tertiary bureaucratic appointee in his administration --were to invoke totalitarian Sparta as a model for an American social renaissance, Glenn Beck most likely would suffer a seizure at his chalkboard, and the entire warbot Right would go into convulsions. Allen West's candid endorsement of that vile totalitarian system, however, is seen as "courageous" and "principled" by that same social cohort.
> > "When was the last time you heard a politician speak like this?" squealed an enraptured conservative commentator regarding West's paean to Sparta's child-snatching militarist overlords.
> > Well, let's see:
> > There was that curious little fellow -- a bit eccentric, but adecorated combat veteran nonetheless -- whoabout eighty years ago explained: "When an opponent says, `I will not come over to your side,' I calmly say, `Your child belongs to us already.... You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing but this new community."
> > Fleshing out the Dear Leader's vision, his Interior Minister, Wilhelm Frick, insisted that the "primary obligation" of parents, schools, and other institutions was "to raise youth for service to theVolkand state...."
> > Another version of that same sentiment was expressed at aSoviet Communist PartyEducation Workers' Conference in 1918: "We must remove the children from the crude influence of their families. We must take them over and, to speak frankly, nationalize them. From the first days of their lives they will be under the healthy influence of Communist children's nurseries and schools. There they will grow up to be real Communists."A few years ago, the militarist Rightworked itself into a spittle-flinging frenzyovera video depicting what was described as Obama's "paramilitary youth corps." The black teenagers in that video -- whose choreographed presentation did have the flavor of a ritual worshipping the Dear Leader of a third world nation -- were enrolled in a Kansas City program for troubled youngsters. This disagreeable episode was an entirely isolated incident.
> > Allen West, on the other hand, has candidly endorsed the idea that virtuous American mothers should "[give] up their male sons" to be raised by the State, for the State; that they should teach their sons that there is no vocation holier than killing on behalf of the State; and that there is no act nobler than sacrificing one's life in the State's service. 
> > Many of the same people who saw the odd little performance in Kansas City as evidence of a plot to create a monolithic, nation-wide Paramilitary Youth Corps of fearsome size and iron discipline apparently think this arrangement would be just fine, as long as Allen West were the one in charge.
> > Perhaps he's being coy, but Colonel West insists that he's not interested in a presidential run in 2012. If he's sincere in that refusal, he might find himself gravitating toward a different venture promoted by Beck -- whatone of his publicists describesas a coterie of "former CEOs, CIA agents, and military personnel who share his vision to restore the republic."
> > On the basis of prior performance, it's pretty clear that Beck's "vision" doesn't include a repudiation of the Warfare State. The thumbnail sketch of his proposed brain trust suggests that he would be communing with people who have been instrumental in building that vertically integrated enterprise of plunder, bloodshed, and misery, and have profited from it.
> > I find myself wondering ifBeckand his clique will gather in somesheltered Rocky Mountain redoubtto prepare for the final economic and social collapse -- and then emerge in the aftermath to offer the kind of leadership only seasoned militarists can provide. If this is the case, I'd suggest naming their sanctuaryGaltieriGulch, in memory ofa CIA-supported figurewhose juntafield-tested many of the
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Re: Travis...if Medicare and Social Security is so bad...

who gave the power to the bankers to control
our money
---
all 5 Federal Reserve governors are jews

in fact, since the creation of the Federal Reserve system in 1913,
every chairman of the FR, without exception, has been Jewish

On Apr 30, 7:04 am, lbiglee75 <leroys...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We point fingers , but who gave the power to the bankers to control
> our money, It was that the power was  congress'. Congress is we the
> people and what every they do. You may have to look in the mirror and
> say that is me, I'm doing it.I only thing that upsets me is the big
> bankers are laughing at us, because we can't get our act together. You
> might want to download  The Public Banking Institute and see what they
> want to do. It may be something you would want to get involved with.
> Instead of giving our money to wall street. You may also want to get
> behind Ron Paul in his quest to audit the Federal Reserve to find out
> what they are doing with our money. Forget about Politics and start
> looking for solutions.
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 7:46 AM, plainolamerican
>
>
>
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > their rich friends on Wall Street
> > ----
> > Lloyd Blankfein: Chairman & CEO of Goldman Sachs
>
> > Stephen Roach: Managing Director & Economist of Morgan Stanley
>
> > Martin Feldstein: Director of American International Group (AIG)
>
> > Alan Fishman: CEO of Washington Mutual (WaMu)
>
> > know the enemy and who they represent
>
> > On Apr 29, 1:24 am, studio <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> then you need to give it back to your lying Republitard friends so
> >> they can give it to their rich friends on Wall Street so they can
> >> create jobs with it.
> >> Why should they care about old farts like you?
> >> You're a drain on the Republic as far as they're concerned.
>
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Re: Travis...if Medicare and Social Security is so bad...

We point fingers , but who gave the power to the bankers to control
our money, It was that the power was congress'. Congress is we the
people and what every they do. You may have to look in the mirror and
say that is me, I'm doing it.I only thing that upsets me is the big
bankers are laughing at us, because we can't get our act together. You
might want to download The Public Banking Institute and see what they
want to do. It may be something you would want to get involved with.
Instead of giving our money to wall street. You may also want to get
behind Ron Paul in his quest to audit the Federal Reserve to find out
what they are doing with our money. Forget about Politics and start
looking for solutions.

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 7:46 AM, plainolamerican
<plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:
> their rich friends on Wall Street
> ----
> Lloyd Blankfein: Chairman & CEO of Goldman Sachs
>
> Stephen Roach: Managing Director & Economist of Morgan Stanley
>
> Martin Feldstein: Director of American International Group (AIG)
>
> Alan Fishman: CEO of Washington Mutual (WaMu)
>
> know the enemy and who they represent
>
> On Apr 29, 1:24 am, studio <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> then you need to give it back to your lying Republitard friends so
>> they can give it to their rich friends on Wall Street so they can
>> create jobs with it.
>> Why should they care about old farts like you?
>> You're a drain on the Republic as far as they're concerned.
>
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Re: Is She Really One of the World’s 100 ‘Most Influential’ People?

those who support US intervention around the planet are the problem

America First Forever!

On Apr 29, 5:42 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> Is She Really One of the World s 100 Most Influential People?Posted byLaurence Vanceon April 29, 2011 03:15 PM
> Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) has been named byTimemagazine as one of the world s 100 most influential people.Her biowas written by President Obama. I feel bad for what happened to her, and I wish her a full recovery (although I don t wish her back in Congress since she never met a war spending bill she didn t like), but is she really one of the world s 100 most influential people?
> Congressional creeps Paul Ryan and John Boehner are both on the list. Although I loathe them, they are certainly influential people. The most influential member of Congress didn t make the list: Ron Paul.

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Re: Travis...if Medicare and Social Security is so bad...

their rich friends on Wall Street
----
Lloyd Blankfein: Chairman & CEO of Goldman Sachs

Stephen Roach: Managing Director & Economist of Morgan Stanley

Martin Feldstein: Director of American International Group (AIG)

Alan Fishman: CEO of Washington Mutual (WaMu)

know the enemy and who they represent

On Apr 29, 1:24 am, studio <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> then you need to give it back to your lying Republitard friends so
> they can give it to their rich friends on Wall Street so they can
> create jobs with it.
> Why should they care about old farts like you?
> You're a drain on the Republic as far as they're concerned.

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Re: Lefturds at D.C. Comics Force Superman To Renounce His U.S. Citizenship

Just another illegal alien waiting to be deported by Republitards.
----
at it should ... our law says illegal aliens are to be deported
they are criminals/parasites

choose sides carefully

On Apr 29, 7:45 pm, studio <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 12:02 pm, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > *So,  Superman  is going to renounce his U.S. Citizenship?   That makes no
> > sense at all.  Clark Kent/Superman was raised by loving and kind parents who
> > instilled within him traditional middle-America values.  He's as American as
> > baseball and apple pie---and then some!*
>
> > *Although...  I must point that, technically speaking, Superman is an
> > illegal alien.  With the emphasis on "alien."  *
>
> > *However, that won't stop these Lefturds who have infested the comic book
> > industry from destroying the very fabric of our cherished childhood
> > superheroes while trashing America:*
>
> Have they also asked to see his birth certificate?
> He might not be eligible to be "super" by Republitard standards.
>
> Just another illegal alien waiting to be deported by Republitards.
> However they make exceptions for him because he works for nothing.

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Re: **JP** mazdoor ki biti ki shadi

ا سلام و علیکم
پھر تو سر اسکا امت مین شائع ہو نا حق بنتا ہے وسیے تو آپ کی مرضی ہے کہ آپ کا اخبار ہے  میں نے کئی مرتبہ کو شش کی کہ میرا کالم اس میں شائع ہو مگر شائد ای میل ٹھیک نہ تھا یا مین اس لائق اتنا اچھا نہیں لکھتی ۔ عینی نیا زی


On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Abdullah Usmani <jaabus2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

وعلیکم السلام ورحمۃ اللہ وبرکاتہ

آمیل کرنے کا بہت شکریہ۔

خصوصاً نظم پر آپ کا شکر گزار ہوں۔

والسلام

جمال عبداللہ عثمان، کراچی

روزنامہ امت


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