On 12/10/10, Keith In Tampa <
keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Two words, a whole bunch of syllables, as to why DADT should NOT be
> repealed: "Bradley Manning".
>
> *According to Bradley's online chats, he was in "an awkward place" both
> "emotionally and psychologically." So in a snit, he betrayed his country by
> orchestrating the greatest leak of classified intelligence in U.S. history.
>
> Isn't that in the Army Code of Conduct? You must follow orders at all times.
> Exceptions will be made for servicemen in an awkward place. Now, who wants a
> hug? Waitress! Three more apple-tinis!"
>
> *
>
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Tommy News <
tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Many Democratic Activists are fighting DADT both in and out of the
>> courts..
>>
>>
>> On 12/10/10, GregfromBoston <
greg.vincent@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > What part of "in the courts", are you missing?
>> >
>> > On Dec 10, 10:16 am, Tommy News <
tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Wrong again.
>> >> Many Democratic Activists are indeed fighting DADT.
>> >>
>> >> You are quite mistaken, yet again.
>> >>
>> >> On 12/10/10, GregfromBoston <
greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Not in the courts they aren't Tom. Drop the suit and DADT AND the
>> >> > complete ban vanish.
>> >>
>> >> > On Dec 9, 12:10 pm, Tommy News <
tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> No, that is false. Many Democrats and actvists are fighting AGAINST
>> >> >> both.
>> >>
>> >> >> On 12/8/10, GregfromBoston <
greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> > I emailed POTUS and told him to drop his challenge in the courts.
>> >>
>> >> >> > It didn't work.
>> >>
>> >> >> > DOMA too.
>> >>
>> >> >> > Dems own BOTH!!! And dems are fighting FOR both!
>> >>
>> >> >> > God this is easy
>> >>
>> >> >> > On Dec 8, 12:08 pm, Tommy News <
tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> ACTION Alert: Call and Fax your two US Senators on DADT Repeal
>> NOW!
>> >>
>> >> >> >> The Federal Eye: Senate plans procedural vote on 'don't ask,
>> >> >> >> don't
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>> >> >> >> By Ed O'Keefe
>> >> >> >> Wednesday, December 8, 2010; 11:10 AM
>> >>
>> >> >> >> Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) is likely to hold a
>> >> >> >> procedural vote Wednesday on a bill that would end the military's
>> >> >> >> "don't ask, don't tell" law, but the measure is expected to fail,
>> >> >> >> according to Senate Democratic aides and advocates for ending the
>> >> >> >> law.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> Reid said this morning he would likely file a motion later today
>> to
>> >> >> >> reconsider the annual defense authorization bill, a massive piece
>> of
>> >> >> >> legislation that includes language instructing the Pentagon to
>> >> >> >> end
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> policy.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> But holding a vote today would keep several Republicans from
>> voting
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> proceed, according to aides and activists familiar with ongoing
>> >> >> >> negotiations who are not authorized to speak on the record.
>> >> >> >> Republican
>> >> >> >> senators, led by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), have said they would
>> >> >> >> filibuster attempts to move forward with the bill. McCain, a
>> >> >> >> vocal
>> >> >> >> critic of a Pentagon study released last week on the topic, wants
>> to
>> >> >> >> hold more hearings with frontline military commanders and senior
>> >> >> >> enlisted officers before voting to repeal the law.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> Holding an ultimately unsuccessful vote today has the potential
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> further enrage liberal Democrats and gay rights activists upset
>> with
>> >> >> >> Congressional Democrats and the White House for failing to
>> >> >> >> deliver
>> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> several campaign promises.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> If the procedural vote fails today, "it will be impossible to
>> raise
>> >> >> >> money for Senate Democrats that are up in 2012," said Fred Sainz,
>> >> >> >> vice
>> >> >> >> president of the Human Rights Campaign, a group actively lobbying
>> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> end to the ban. "If Reid likes the majority leader title, he
>> better
>> >> >> >> think twice about the way this is currently set up for failure."
>> >>
>> >> >> >> "We're staring at failure," said another experienced activist
>> >> >> >> involved
>> >> >> >> with the negotiations, who was not authorized to speak on the
>> >> >> >> record.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> Gay rights groups and some Democratic senators want Reid to move
>> >> >> >> forward to consideration of a tax cut compromise and a $1.1
>> trillion
>> >> >> >> bill to keep the government running before reconsidering the
>> defense
>> >> >> >> bill.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> They cite the expected support of moderate Republican Sens. Susan
>> >> >> >> Collins (Maine) and Scott Brown (Mass.), who are willing to
>> support
>> >> >> >> repeal if Reid holds the vote after the tax and spending bills
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> allows for a fair debate process. Despite weeks of questions and
>> >> >> >> deliberations with Democrats, Collins has yet to signal her final
>> >> >> >> intentions or to clarify what a "fair debate process" means,
>> >> >> >> according
>> >> >> >> to Senate aides and others familiar with the negotiations.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> Democrats are focused on also securing the support of Sens.
>> >> >> >> George
>> >> >> >> Voinovich (R-Ohio), Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), Richard Lugar
>> >> >> >> (R-Ind.),
>> >> >> >> John Ensign (R-Nev.) and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), according to
>> >> >> >> Democratic aides.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> The defense bill failed in September to garner the 60 votes
>> >> >> >> necessary
>> >> >> >> to move forward. Wednesday's action would be similar to what
>> >> >> >> occurred
>> >> >> >> in September and would not represent a final vote on the issue.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> An unsuccessful vote could lead to several scenarios, including
>> >> >> >> efforts to pass repeal of "don't ask, don't tell" as a standalone
>> >> >> >> bill, adding it to other legislation expected to pass in the next
>> >> >> >> week, or postponing debate on the issue until the new year and
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> start of a Republican-dominated Congress.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> If Congress doesn't act, the Pentagon and gay rights advocates
>> have
>> >> >> >> warned that federal judges considering cases that challenge the
>> >> >> >> constitutionality of the ban could at any time order an immediate
>> >> >> >> end
>> >> >> >> to the ban, leading to potential chaos for military recruiters
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> troops in the field.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> A successful vote -- again, unlikely if it happens today,
>> according
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> activists -- would put the issue back on the Senate's formal
>> >> >> >> to-do
>> >> >> >> list, making it possible for senators to debate and vote on the
>> bill
>> >> >> >> before the end of next week when they plan to go home.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> More:
>>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/08/AR201...
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>> >> >> >> Have a great day,
>> >> >> >> Tommy
>> >>
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