Friday, September 24, 2010

Re: Did they ever catch...

I defintely recall the fear and panic of the purported Anthrax attack.....
 
I was raising my daughter, by myself (as a single parent)  at the time, and even went out and bought a couple of gas masks......Seems stupid now, but at the time.....Well, it was stupid at the time too.  (I did get a good deal on them at the Army-Navy Surplus store that was once in Downtown Tampa however,and I bought an Army poncho liner that same day, which I still have!!)

With regard to the "Conservative nut case (FBI profile) that mailed anthrax to people"......Bruce Ivans was a career bureaucrat, a registered Democrat, and committed suicide in 2008.   There is a lot of contention by a number of Ivans' associates, collegues, friends and acquaintances, who claim that Ivans could not have been the one who created and then mailed the Anthrax......
 
We do know that the FBI has gotten a lot of stuff wrong in the past.....See Richard Jewell; the purported Atlanta Olympic Bomber......
 
 
 


 
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:59 PM, studio <tlack@hotmail.com> wrote:
...the Conservative nut case (FBI profile) that mailed anthrax to
people?

I guess that didn't count as a terrorist attack Bush Jr. kept us safe
from because it was a conservative.

Keep Fear Alive!!!

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The Republicans' "Pledge To America" Whaddya Think???

Good Afternoon Tom, and all members of Political Forum!
 
I'm just curious......After reading "Tom For News' "  recent post, captioned, "GOP "Pledge to America" drafted by lobbyist in bed with AIG, Exxon Mobil, drug makers";  I am wondering, have you read the Republican Party's, "Pledge To America" yet?
 
If not, I have attached it, as an Adobe, ".pdf" document,  as well as providing a link to the document, (from I am quite positive, one of your favorite web sites!!)
 
When you get a moment, I would love to hear exactly what it is that you disagree with, that is contained within the pledge.  Feel free to comment about the planks that you might also agree with..... 
 
As a matter of fact, I would love to hear from both conservatives, liberals, moderates, independents, Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, Moonbats, Crackpots....In general, anyone who takes the time to read the document, I would love to hear what your thoughts are on the Pledge.
 
Again, here it is:
 
 

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Republicans Pledge a Return to Failed Bush Policies

Republicans Pledge a Return to Failed Bush Policies
 
Delay, Rove, and Gingrich

GOP's Pledge to America has lots of new ideas, or does it?

On The Daily Show Thursday, comedian Jon Stewart examines the Pledge to America and experiences déjà vu.

House Minority Leader John Boehner (R) of Ohio, holds up a copy of the GOP agenda, "A Pledge to America", on Thursday at a lumber yard in Sterling, Va. From left are: House Minority Whip Eric Cantor of Va., Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, (R) of Washington, Boehner, and Rep. Mike Pence (R) of Indiana.

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By Casey Bayer, Staff editor / September 24, 2010

Boston

Let's hit rewind for a moment.

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It's after the decimating 2008 elections, Republicans are licking their wounds and picking out shrapnel out after losing the Presidency, House, and Senate in one fell swoop. Real Clear Politics described as a "Democratic takeover – which it was.

And understandably, it was time for some self reflection. Republicans decided that the way forward was going to be all about new ideas, new faces, new leadership. The GOP was going "to be the party of new ideas."

"Ah, spitballing here: How about, 'We got a black guy too?' Just spitballing here!" comedian Jon Stewart helpfully added to the GOP "new ideas" list.

Nearly two years later, after the requisite town hall meetings, speaking to constituents, and starting a website with the "crucial midterm elections around the corner and House Republicans poised for the real chance to win huge, so they're ready to unveil the fruits of their labor," Stewart said.

Enter the Pledge to America on Thursday.

Here's the highlight list, so generously provided by Stewart's "Postcards from the Pledge":

  • Honor our families
  • Don't spend more than you take in
  • Stop out of control spending
  • Support our troops, fight the terrorists, stand by our friends, and protect our citizens.

"Whoa! Who are these fresh-faced young guns and their bold new ideas? Wait a minute that's the same <expletive> we've heard before!" Stewart said. "Your fresh new ideas sound slightly like - I'm sorry did I say slightly - exactly like your old ideas!"

Stewart then proceeded to play clips from Republican politicians from 1994 to today. Pretty close to verbatim promises and "ideas" from the Pledge to America and past speeches are played one after another.

The most telling gotcha? Stewart juxtaposes a clip from House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R) of Ohio from Wednesday's press conference and a clip from March 1998 where he literally says the same exact thing, calling for:

"A smaller, less costly, and more accountable government in our nation's capitol."

Well, we'll grant that the GOP message is consistent. But Stewart was aghast.

"I don't even know what to say! This isn't even like a sequel, its like a shot-by-shot remake!"

Stewart wasn't the only one to draw this conclusion. Washington Post, staff writer Perry Bacon Jr. compares the Pledge to America with the GOP's 1994 "Contract With America."

How it is similar to the "Contract With America": As in 1994, Republicans are proposing a variety of ideas to reform how Congress works. Just as they did then, they want to make sure that most committee meetings are open, and they want to reduce how much Congress spends on its own operations.

How it differs: Republicans in 1994 proposed term limits (12 years for members of Congress), an idea they have abandoned. Their ideas to demand that bills be posted online 72 hours before votes and to cite the constitutional authority for them are new.

So it's pretty much a shot-by-shot remake.

And the GOP writes on the website for A Pledge to America, "Whenever the agenda of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to institute a new governing agenda and set a different course."

New governing agenda? A different course? That sounds suspiciously like, "Yes, we can change?" Uh-oh.

A perplexed Stewart offered up another Boehner clip.

"The point we make in this preamble to our Pledge, is that we are not going to be any different than what we've been," Boehner said in clip from Thursday.

"And I believe that is a promise you can keep," Stewart responded.

More:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Election-2010/Vox-News/2010/0924/GOP-s-Pledge-to-America-has-lots-of-new-ideas-or-does-it

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GOP "Pledge to America" drafted by lobbyist in bed with AIG, Exxon Mobil, drug makers

Pledge to America drafted by lobbyist in bed with AIG, Exxon Mobil, drug makers

  • September 23rd, 2010 4:11 pm ET

The GOP's Pledge to America is yet another disguise for throwing out everything America is supposed to stand for and replacing it with an undisguised scheme to sellout the public to corporate lobbyists. The GOP favor the big business agenda is exactly what got America into the mess it is in now and selling this plan as anything but a lobbyists dream is nothing but pure rhetoric.

"The Republican Party's 21-page blueprint, Pledge to America, was put together with oversight by a House staffer who, up till April 2010, served as a lobbyist for some of the nation's most powerful oil, pharmaceutical, and insurance companies," according to the Huffington Post.

Need anyone say more? 

The Pledge to America lists Brian Wild as the Author. "A GOP source said that Wild is on House Minority Leader John Boehner's payroll" and "Until early this year, Wild was a fairly active lobbyist on behalf of the firm the Nickles Group, the lobbying shop set up by the former Republican Senator from Oklahoma, Don Nickles. During his five years at the firm, Wild, among others, was paid $740,000 in lobbying contracts from AIG, the former insurance company at the heart of the financial collapse; $800,000 from energy giant Andarko Petroleum; more than $1.1 million from Comcast, more than $1.3 million from Exxon Mobil; and $625,000 from the pharmaceutical company Pfizer Inc," according to CBS News.

The Pledge to America should have been called the Scam on America because it does nothing to help Americans – unless of course they are CEO's of big oil companies, drug companies, or Wall Street bankers.

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