I think you are wrong, dick thompson, but it will take time to try to
explain it to you... if you are willing to hear it or credit it at all
from your end, that is.... which must be taken into consideration, as
well...
Anti-semitic? some have called me that..... I happen to think that
every race or ethnicity (or whatever) is prone to its own number of
racist individuals..... I DO NOT EXCLUDE some Jews from the ranks of
the racists....I call the particular Racist Jews among the overall
group or number of Jews in general..... ZIONIST RACIST JEWS....
Many years ago, now I died a parody of the U.S. Pledge of Allegiance
to the Flag... I called it the Rush Lmbaugh Pledge of Allegiance...
here's how it goes:
" pledge allegiange to the Star of David of the Zionist State of
Israel
and to the Racist Oligarchy for which it stands
One Kingdom under the ineffable Yahweh
Exlusive, with criminal license and prejudgment in favor just of
Jews."
When some hear this.... they wail... anti-Semite.... but hey, I say
(and am) just the opposite... I am anti-Racist....
Nice to meet you Dick Thompson
nominal9
PS... this is really old ground for me, that I get weary of having to
re-tread sometimes......but I just want to lay my cards on the table
for you, in the hopes of getting beyond all the usual buggaboos and
the rhetorical as well as the propaganda feints and tricks....
On Sep 2, 1:25 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> As usual you are reading the point wrong. Nobody is saying that MSNBC
> doing it is justified by your claim that Hentoff is doing it. The
> point is that something is either wrong in its entirety or not wrong in
> its entirety when it comes to these points. You want to selectively
> call dibs on Hentoff and then call anyone who does not believe as you do
> funny names and think you are beng witty. fAIL!! If something is
> wrong, point out where it is wrong and then point out also that it is
> wrong for others to do the same thing. That is what you are missing.
> YOu are against Hentoff and Jewish World Review and the reason is they
> don't believe as you do and therefore you have a name for them - and
> chances are it would be an antisemitic name. And no, I am not Jewish.
>
> On 09/02/2010 12:57 PM, nominal9 wrote:> Ohh.... It made perfect sense......Annointed one......
> > The trouble with"comparisons"... or similes... or metaphors is that
> > "one" should always be careful to "weigh " the terms of the proposed
> > comparison.... make sure that they actually do equal up......
> > Now, between Nat Heltoff and the Jewihh World review on the one side
> > of the scale as counterbalanced by MSNBC on the other.... frankly. I
> > would say that Nat and the Jewish World Review have a heavier
> > comparative load of bias or prejudice, especially on Middle East
> > issues.... Perhaps a more equal comparison would be Fox News as
> > weighed against MSNBC, there the load or bias or prejudice would
> > probably be a little more balancing "left vs right" on both sides...
> > but the Middle East issue is a little funny..... it doesn't track
> > along strict political lines.....
>
> > Anyway.... let's get back to my own metaphorical .... "Jimmy can do it
> > but why can't I" ...rhetorical defense that I charge was adopted by
> > Dick Thompson. First, it is more a charge of "rhetorical device" used
> > than of a strict metaphor, in this instance, I think. The Mommy
> > implied reply is, "I don't care what Jimmy does.... it is wrong for
> > Jimmy to do it as well and Jimmy just doesn't have very good parents
> > that care enough for him or correct him"......
>
> > The trouble with "metaphorical or even this sort of "whiny ... they do
> > it, too... defense is that the underlying problem is that something
> > that is "wrong" is justified by at best another "wrong"....
> > but what do I know.....
>
> > :"Annointed One" Eh.... sounds like a Sean Hannity follower.....
> > Man... you should hear some of my old gags against Sean... especially
> > my "nick-name" for him.....
>
> > nominal9
> > On Aug 31, 12:49 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE<markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Nominal9,
>
> >> Even in context your post made little sense. could you try to be a
> >> little more literate ?? Mr. Thompson made a comparison NOT a defense.
>
> >> On Aug 31, 10:29 am, nominal9<nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> What's that... your ......"Mommy.... Jimmy can do it so why can't
> >>> I?".... defense?
> >>> nominal9
>
> >>> On Aug 30, 3:41 pm, dick thompson<rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>>> As opposed to The Nation or MSNBC or the NYT or WaPo? Definitely not
> >>>> more biased than these other medias are. They wrote the book on bias
> >>>> along with CBS.
>
> >>>> On 08/30/2010 03:20 PM, nominal9 wrote:
>
> >>>>> Every weekday JewishWorldReview.com publishes what many in the media
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> Washington consider "must-reading". Sign up for the daily JWR update.
> >>>>> It's free. Just click here.
>
> >>>>> Nat Hentoff is a nationally renowned authority on the First Amendment
> >>>>> and the Bill of Rights and author of several books, including his
> >>>>> current work, "The War on the Bill of Rights and the Gathering
> >>>>> Resistance". Comment by clicking here. / article
>
> >>>>> Sad to say... as a "nationally renowned authority on the First
> >>>>> Amendment"... Nat Hentoff has become more than a dissappointment in
> >>>>> his support of "freedom of speech" in his older age... he has become
> >>>>> nearly the contrary to an advocate for it... Nat has become a turncoat
> >>>>> and a proponent of "censorship" as a needed "exception" to "freedom of
> >>>>> speech" in many cases... especially in cases that criticize aspects of
> >>>>> Zionist Racism in Israel....
> >>>>> As for the publication, Jewish World Review.... enough said.... don't
> >>>>> you think that there may well be some slight bias or "slant" in their
> >>>>> opinions on this matter?
>
> >>>>> On Aug 29, 4:00 am, dick thompson<rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Nat Hentoff is well known for being a staunch supporter of the US
> >>>>>> Constitution and especially the first amendment rights. He really tells
> >>>>>> it like it is here.
>
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>
> >>>>>> Am I also a bigot? Pols clueless on Ground Zero mosque
>
> >>>>>> By Nat Hentoff
>
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>
> >>>>>>http://www.JewishWorldReview.com|The angry national debate over Imam
> >>>>>> Feisal Abdul Rauf's intention to build a mosque two blocks north of the
> >>>>>> horror of 9/11 at Ground Zero has been further fueled by supporter Nancy
> >>>>>> Pelosi declaring, "I join those who have called for looking into how
> >>>>>> this opposition to the mosque is being funded."
>
> >>>>>> If one of her sleuths knocks on my door, this opponent will readily
> >>>>>> state that I need no outside funding as a reporter who is deeply
> >>>>>> investigating the motivation of Imam Rauf's choice of this site of mass
> >>>>>> murder for the mosque. I will add that, of course, all American Muslims
> >>>>>> have their First Amendment right to exercise their freedom of religion
> >>>>>> in their place of worship. There have been other mosques in New York
> >>>>>> City built without opposition. That freedom is not at stake here.
>
> >>>>>> As for Rauf's inflammable site choice, however, one of a growing number
> >>>>>> of construction workers pledging they will not work on this mosque (New
> >>>>>> York Daily News, Aug. 20), Dave Kaiser, a blaster, explains:
>
> >>>>>> "I wouldn't work there, especially after I found out about what the imam
> >>>>>> said about U.S. policy being responsible for 9/11."
>
> >>>>>> Imam Rauf said was interviewed on CBS' "60 Minutes" (Sept. 30, 2001) by
> >>>>>> Ed Bradley. (I have the transcript.) Asked how he felt as a Muslim
> >>>>>> "knowing that people of your faith committed this act," Imam Rauf spoke
> >>>>>> about Muslim reaction throughout the world "against the policies of the
> >>>>>> U.S. government, politically, where we espouse principles of democracy
> >>>>>> and human rights and where we ally ourselves with oppressive regimes in
> >>>>>> many of these countries."
>
> >>>>>> "Are you in any way suggesting that we in the United States deserved
> >>>>>> what happened?" Bradley asked.
>
> >>>>>> "I wouldn't say that the United States deserved what happened," Rauf
> >>>>>> answered, "but the United States' policies were an accessory to the
> >>>>>> crime that happened. Because (the United States has) been an accessory
> >>>>>> to a lot of -- of innocent lives dying in the world. In fact, it -- in
> >>>>>> the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the U.S.A."
>
> >>>>>> Were the heads of government in Iran, Hamas and Sudan also "made in the
> >>>>>> USA?"
>
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>
> >>>>>> Imam Rauf has refused to call Hamas a terrorist organization and had no
> >>>>>> comment when, on Aug. 15, Mahmoud al-Zahar, its co-founder, strongly
> >>>>>> supported the Imam's mosque near Ground Zero, saying, Muslims "have to
> >>>>>> build everywhere" (Associated Press, Aug. 16). Sen. Charles Schumer,
> >>>>>> D-N.Y., said the support by Hamas of the Imam's mosque carried no weight
> >>>>>> because "Hamas is a terrorist organization."
>
> >>>>>> Why, yes, it is, Imam Rauf, with its suicide bombers and endless rockets
> >>>>>> into Israel. How else can suicide bombers be characterized?
>
> >>>>>> This imam -- widely lauded in much of the press as "a moderate" Muslim
> >>>>>> -- is not reticent, however, in his firm commitment to Sharia (Islamic
> >>>>>> law), which regards women as far less than fully human. In the Dec. 9,
> >>>>>> 2007 Arabic newspaper Hadi el-Islam, Rauf insisted:
>
> >>>>>> "Throughout my discussions with contemporary Muslim theologians, it is
> >>>>>> clear an Islamic state can be established in more than just a single
> >>>>>> form or mold. It can be established through a kingdom or a democracy.
> >>>>>> The important issue is to establish the general fundamentals of Sharia
> >>>>>> that are required to govern."
>
> >>>>>> I would greatly appreciate it if Imam Rauf explained, maybe Pelosi will
> >>>>>> ask him, more fully what he meant in his 2004 book, "What's Right With
> >>>>>> Islam is What's Right With America." In it he declares: "American
> >>>>>> Constitution and system of governance uphold the core principles of
> >>>>>> Islamic law." Rauf says Sharia law is a core principle of Islamic law.
> >>>>>> Does that also include a core principle of our Constitution?
>
> >>>>>> This 2004 book's title in the English-language edition yields to a
> >>>>>> different title for non-English-speaking readers in Malaysia, reports
> >>>>>> Andrew McCarthy ("Rauf's Dawa from the World Trade Center Rubble,"
> >>>>>> nationalreview.com).
>
> >>>>>> This alternate title in Malaysia brings us right back into the civil war
> >>>>>> here about the imam's mosque near Ground Zero: "A Call to Prayer from
> >>>>>> the World
>
> >> ...
>
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