Sunday, August 15, 2010

More Ground Zero Mosque Imam Terrorist Supporting/Terrorist Sympathetic Connections

   

More Ground Zero Mosque Imam Terrorist-Supporting/Terrorist-Sympathetic Connections

Filed under: Taxes & Government — TBlumer @ 9:41 am

Via PJM’s Madeline Brooks (links are in original):

… Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf seems to have an irresistible attraction to extremists and terrorists, in spite of frequent declarations that he is a peacemaker and a “bridge builder.” He has stated that the Islamic community center and grand mosque he wants to build would be “about promoting integration, tolerance of difference, and community cohesion through arts and culture.”

So what was he doing at a 2007 conference in Indonesia of an international terrorist group seeking a global caliphate?

Hizb-ut Tahrir al Islami (Islamic Party of Liberation) … is a dangerous group. It is alleged to have attempted coups in Jordan, Syria and Egypt, which were defeated, fortunately. As we see in these photos, Rauf looks quite relaxed and happy at the Hizb-ut Tahrir conference, as do the other participants with him. In fact, there is a feeling of celebration in these photos. The language in the text accompanying the photos is Malay. Although the conference was held in Indonesia, there were many Malaysians attending, including Rauf, who has lived for a great part of his life in Malaysia. An English language website promoting the caliphate states that 100,000 people attended the conference.

Hizb-ut Tahrir is similar ideologically to the Muslim Brotherhood. Both seek worldwide Islamic supremacy and the imposition of Islamic law to replace the Constitution and democracy. But Hizb-ut Tahrir differs by also espousing Marxist-Leninist methodology, and is entirely open about its ambition to dominate the world, unlike the more discreet Muslim Brotherhood.

… What would life be like for Jews living in the caliphate? Well, there probably wouldn’t be many left after a while — Hizb-ut Tahrir’s anti-Semitism is predictably strong. Ata Abu-Rishta, the international head of Hizb-ut Tahrir, is said to have “whipped the 100,000-strong crowd” at the August 2007 annual conference in Jakarta, Indonesia, “into a frenzy … by calling for a war on Jews.” Rishta has also declared that it is “permissible” to kill Jews in Israel, and by extension, everywhere: “There can be no peaceful relations with the Jews: this is prohibited by Islamic law.”

Hizb-ut Tahrir posted an article on its website in 2000 citing a well-known hadith calling for the wholesale murder of Jews: “The stones and trees will say: O Muslim, O Slave of Allah. Here is a Jew behind me so come and kill him.”

Longtime readers of this blog might recall a certain imam who was selected in the fall of 2007 to run a mosque in Cleveland abandoning his appointment and leaving town with his tail between his legs after he was exposed as having sermonized on the aforementioned hadith at his former post in Omaha (posts are here, here, here, here, and here).

Oh (thanks to Patrick Poole for the original reference), I forgot to mention that the aforementioned hadith is in Article Seven of the 1988 Hamas Covenant, and that carrying it out is “the realisation of Allah’s promise, no matter how long that should take.”

“The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.” (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).

Back to Ms. Brooks:

… The literature of Hizb ut-Tahrir cites the Koran to validate using terrorism to spread Islam. They see Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and Jama’ah Islamiyah as legitimate Islamic movements, not as terrorists. This may explain why Rauf refused to denounce Hamas as a terrorist organization on Aaron Klein’s radio show on June 20, 2010.

There’s much more at the PJM link.

It is not possible for Muslims like Rauf who won’t renounce the clear meaning of the hadith or who won’t repudiate an organization whose very mission is to carry out the hadith’s intention to legitimately claim to be “moderate” or interested in “dialog.”

Anyone who doesn’t see the Ground Zero Mosque as an in-your-face to the United States in particular, and to Western civilization and the non-Muslim world in general, either doesn’t have his eyes open or is genuinely sympathetic with the expressed outlook of the Ground Zero Mosque’s mastermind and his circle of associations.

Which is it, Mr. Obama?


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the drug trade....now the government wants to run that too...do you see
a trend here ?

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Re: What a lousy op-ed - total krep from beginning to end

Ooops. Typo.  12 years in DC.

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Travis <baconlard@gmail.com> wrote:
I lived in DC for 1 years.  I know how bad it is there.  the only department that works effeciently is the unemployment insurance dept.  I am told they get the checks out on time every week.


On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:20 AM, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
You got a point there but I think Chicago has had longer to hone the abilities to be corrupt - more practice.   They have it down to a science.


On 08/15/2010 12:16 PM, Travis wrote:
Don't forget Detroit.  lol

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:07 AM, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
   So what is different.  The wrappings are different but the product is still the most corrupt city in the country with the most corrupt administration and the most corrupt politicians, even worse than Louisiana and New Jersey.   Nothing changed except the surface - and the fact that a resident is now president which allows him to bring the corruption of Chicago to DC, as if DC needed any more corruption.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/15/opinion/15warren.html

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Re: Disagree with this one

Still got theirs.

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I think this guy is missing the point.  What we need are jobs, all kinds of jobs, factory jobs, mechanics, small businesses, people making things, people using tools, people working together.   For many of those jobs college is not an advantage.   The huge money spent on a college education would be a waste and a lot of the people would not make it through unless they took basket weaving or ethnic or gender courses.   The whole academic system needs revising, starting with the curriculum in grade and high schools.   We had it mostly right years ago.  This current mess is just not working.


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Re: one lump or two

And then go clean the outhouses.

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:


 

Obama dies and finds himself before the Pearly Gates.  He is very excited; all his life he's had a secret wish and longed to meet the Prophet Mohammed.

Having arrived at the Gates of Heaven, Barrack meets a man with a beard.  'Are you Mohammed?' he asks.

'No, my son.  I am Peter.  Mohammed is higher up.' Peter then points to a ladder that rises into the clouds.
 
Delighted that Mohammed should be higher than Peter, Obama climbs the ladder in great strides, climbs through the clouds coming to a room where he meets another bearded man.  He asks again, 'Are you Mohammed?'

'No, I am Moses.  Mohammed is higher still.'
 
Exhausted, but with a heart full of joy he climbs the ladder yet again, he discovers an even larger room where he meets another man with a beard.  Full of hope, he asks again, 'Are you Mohammed?'

'No, I am Jesus . . . You will find Mohammed higher up.'
 
Mohammed higher than Jesus!  Man! Obama can hardly contain his delight and climbs and climbs, ever higher. Once again, he reaches a larger room where he meets a man with a beard and repeats his question:  'Are you Mohammed?' he gasps as he is, by now, totally out of breath from all his climbing.

'No, my son . . . . I am Almighty God. But you look exhausted. Would you like a cup of coffee?'

'Yes!  Please.'

God looks behind him, claps his hands and yells out:  'Hey Mohammed - - two coffees!'
 


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    Re: What a lousy op-ed - total krep from beginning to end

    I lived in DC for 1 years.  I know how bad it is there.  the only department that works effeciently is the unemployment insurance dept.  I am told they get the checks out on time every week.

    On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:20 AM, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
    You got a point there but I think Chicago has had longer to hone the abilities to be corrupt - more practice.   They have it down to a science.


    On 08/15/2010 12:16 PM, Travis wrote:
    Don't forget Detroit.  lol

    On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:07 AM, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
       So what is different.  The wrappings are different but the product is still the most corrupt city in the country with the most corrupt administration and the most corrupt politicians, even worse than Louisiana and New Jersey.   Nothing changed except the surface - and the fact that a resident is now president which allows him to bring the corruption of Chicago to DC, as if DC needed any more corruption.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/15/opinion/15warren.html

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    one lump or two



     

    Obama dies and finds himself before the Pearly Gates.  He is very excited; all his life he's had a secret wish and longed to meet the Prophet Mohammed.

    Having arrived at the Gates of Heaven, Barrack meets a man with a beard.  'Are you Mohammed?' he asks.

    'No, my son.  I am Peter.  Mohammed is higher up.' Peter then points to a ladder that rises into the clouds.
     
    Delighted that Mohammed should be higher than Peter, Obama climbs the ladder in great strides, climbs through the clouds coming to a room where he meets another bearded man.  He asks again, 'Are you Mohammed?'

    'No, I am Moses.  Mohammed is higher still.'
     
    Exhausted, but with a heart full of joy he climbs the ladder yet again, he discovers an even larger room where he meets another man with a beard.  Full of hope, he asks again, 'Are you Mohammed?'

    'No, I am Jesus . . . You will find Mohammed higher up.'
     
    Mohammed higher than Jesus!  Man! Obama can hardly contain his delight and climbs and climbs, ever higher. Once again, he reaches a larger room where he meets a man with a beard and repeats his question:  'Are you Mohammed?' he gasps as he is, by now, totally out of breath from all his climbing.

    'No, my son . . . . I am Almighty God. But you look exhausted. Would you like a cup of coffee?'

    'Yes!  Please.'

    God looks behind him, claps his hands and yells out:  'Hey Mohammed - - two coffees!'
     


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    Muslim Inbreeding: Impacts on intelligence, sanity, health and society









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    Muslim Inbreeding: Impacts on intelligence, sanity, health and society

    Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:00 Nicolai Sennels

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    Massive inbreeding within the Muslim culture during the last 1.400 years may have done catastrophic damage to their gene pool. The consequences of intermarriage between first cousins often have serious impact on the offspring's intelligence, sanity, health and on their surroundings

    The most famous example of inbreeding is in ancient Egypt, where several Pharaonic dynasties collapsed after a couple of hundred years. In order to keep wealth and power within the family, the Pharaohs often married their own sister or half-sister and after a handful of generations the offspring were mentally and physically unfit to rule.

    Another historical example is the royal houses of Europe where royal families often married among each other because tradition did not allow them to marry people of non-royal class.

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    The high amount of mentally retarded and handicapped royalties throughout European history shows the unhealthy consequences of this practice. Luckily, the royal families have now allowed themselves to marry for love and not just for status.

    The Muslim culture still practices inbreeding and has been doing so for longer than any Egyptian dynasty. This practice also predates the world's oldest monarchy (the Danish) by 300 years.

    A rough estimate shows that close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred: In Pakistan, 70 percent of all marriages are between first cousins (so-called "consanguinity") and in Turkey the amount is between 25-30 percent (Jyllands-Posten, 27/2 2009 More stillbirths among immigrants"

    Statistical research on Arabic countries shows that up to 34 percent of all marriages in Algiers are consanguine (blood related), 46 percent in Bahrain, 33 percent in Egypt, 80 percent in Nubia (southern area in Egypt), 60 percent in Iraq, 64 percent in Jordan, 64 percent in Kuwait, 42 percent in Lebanon, 48 percent in Libya, 47 percent in Mauritania, 54 percent in Qatar, 67 percent in Saudi Arabia, 63 percent in Sudan, 40 percent in Syria, 39 percent in Tunisia, 54 percent in the United Arabic Emirates and 45 percent in Yemen (Reproductive Health Journal, 2009 Consanguinity and reproductive health among Arabs.).

    A large part of inbred Muslims are born from parents who are themselves inbred - which increase the risks of negative mental and physical consequenses greatly.

    The amount of blood related marriages is lower among Muslim immigrants living in the West. Among Pakistanis living in Denmark the amount is down to 40 percent and 15 percent among Turkish immigrants (Jyllands-Posten, 27/2 2009 More stillbirths among immigrants".).


    More than half of Pakistani immigrants living in Britain are intermarried:

    The research, conducted by the BBC and broadcast to a shocked nation on Tuesday, found that at least 55% of the community was married to a first cousin. This is thought to be linked to the probability that a British Pakistani family is at least 13 times more likely than the general population to have children with recessive genetic disorders." (Times of India, 17/11 2005 Ban UK Pakistanis from marrying cousins).

    The lower percentages might be because it is difficult to get the chosen family member to the country, or because health education is better in the West.


    Low intelligence

    Several studies show that children of consanguineous marriages have lower intelligence than children of non-related parents. Research shows that the IQ is 10-16 points lower in children born from related parents and that abilities related to social behavior develops slower in inbred babies:

    "Effects of parental consanguinity on the cognitive and social behavior of children have been studied among the Ansari Muslims of Bhalgapur, Bihar.

    IQ in inbred children (8-12 years old) is found to be lower (69 in rural and 79 in suburban populations) than that of the outbred ones (79 and 95 respectively). The onset of various social profiles like visual fixation, social smile, sound seizures, oral expression and hand-grasping are significantly delayed among the new-born inbred babies." (Indian National Science Academy, 1983 Consanguinity Effects on Intelligence Quotient and Neonatal Behaviours of nsari Muslim Children").

    The article "Effects of inbreeding on Raven Matrices" concludes that "Indian Muslim school boys, ages 13 to 15 years, whose parents are first cousins, were compared with classmates whose parents are genetically unrelated on the Raven Standard Progressive Matrices, a nonverbal test of intelligence. The inbred group scored significantly lower and had significantly greater variance than the non-inbred group, both on raw scores and on scores statistically adjusted to control for age and socioeconomic status." (Behaviour Genetics, 1984).

    Another study shows that the risk of having an IQ lower than 70 goes up 400 percent from 1.2 percent in children from normal parents to 6.2 percent in inbred children: "The data indicate that the risk for mental retardation in matings of normal parents increases from 0.012 with random matings to 0.062 for first-cousin parentage." (Proceedings of the National Academy of Science, 1978 Effect of inbreeding on IQ and mental retardation"). The study A study of possible deleterious effects of consanguinity concludes, that "The occurrence of malignancies, congenital abnormalities, mental retardation and physical handicap was significantly higher in offspring of consanguineous than non-consanguineous marriages."


    Mental and physical diseases and death

    The risk of stillbirth doubles when parents are first cousins (Jyllands-Posten, 27/2 2009 More stillbirths among immigrants). One study analyzed the risk of perinatal death (the child dies during its own birth), infant death (child dies while still infant) and autosomal recessive disorders (serious and often deadly genetic diseases such as cystic fibrosis and spinal muscular atrophy):

    Perinatal mortality in the Pakistani children was 1.5 times higher than that in the Norwegian children, and infant mortality in the Pakistani children was more than double that in the Norwegian children. Deaths due to autosomal recessive disorders were 18 times more common in the Pakistani children. Similarly, deaths due to multiple malformations, which may be part of unrecognized autosomal recessive syndromes, were 10 times more common.

     

    (BMJ, 1994 Infant death and consanguineous marriage.

    There are also evidence suggesting that inbred people has a higher risk of developing mental disorders: "The clinical observations indicated that depression is very high in some communities where the consanguinity of marriages is also high." (Indian Journal of Psychiatry, 2009 "Relationship between consanguinity and depression in a south Indian population".

    Another study focused on the relationship between intermarriage and schizophrenia: "The closer the blood relative, the more likely was there to be a schizophrenic illness." (American Psychiatric Press, 1982 The role of genetic factors in the ethiology of the schizophrenic
    disorders
    .

    The increased risk of insanity among children of marriages between cousins might explain why immigrant patients are stressing the psychiatric system and are strongly overrepresented among insane criminals: "In Sct. Hans Hospital, which has the biggest ward for clinically insane criminals in Denmark, more than 40 percent of the patients have an immigrant background." (Kristeligt Dagblad, 26/6 2007 Ethnic minorities overrepresented among the criminal insane).


    Implications for the Western and the Muslim World

    The consequences for offspring of consanguineous marriages are unpleasantly clear: Death, low intelligence or even mental retardation, handicaps and diseases often leading to a slow and painful death. Other consequences are:

    Limited social skills and understanding, limited ability to manage education and work procedures and painful treatment procedures. The negative cognitive consequences also influence the executive functions. The impairment of concentration and emotional control most often leads to anti-social behavior.

    The economic costs and consequences for society of inbreeding are of course secondary to the reality of human suffering.

    However, inbreeding among Muslims has severe implications for both the Western societies and the Muslim world.

    Expenses related to mentally and physically handicapped Muslim immigrants drains the budget for other public services: "When cousins have children together, they are twice as likely to have a disabled child - it costs municipal funds dearly. Disabled immigrant children costs Danish municipalities millions. In Copenhagen County alone, the number of disabled children in the overall increase of 100 percent at 10 years. ... Meredith Lefelt has contacted 330 families with disabled children in Copenhagen. She estimates that one third of their clients have a foreign cultural background." (BT, 10/11 2003 Immigrants inbreeding costing one million.

    On top come the expenses for Muslim immigrants who - because of different consequences of being born from blood related parents - are not able to live up to the challenges of our Western work market: Muslim immigrants and their descendants in Europe have a very high rate of unemployment.

    The same goes for Muslims in USA, where the Gallup Institute made a study involving 300.000 people concluding "The majority of Muslims in USA have a lower income, are less educated and have worse jobs than the population as a whole." (Berlingske Tidende, d. 3. marts 2009: Muslims thrive in USA.

    The cognitive consequences of Muslim inbreeding might explain why non-Western immigrants are more than 300 percent more likely to fail the Danish army's intelligence test than native Danes: "19.3% of non-Western immigrants are not able to pass the Danish army's intelligence test. In comparison, only 4.7% of applicants with Danish background do not pass." (TV 2 Nyhederne, 13/6 2007 Immigrants flunk army test.

    It probably also explains - at least partly - why two thirds of all immigrant school children with Arabic backgrounds are illiterate after 10 years in the Danish school system: "Those who speak Arabic with their parents have an extreme tendency to lack reading abilities - 64 percent are illiterate. ... No matter if it concerns reading abilities, mathematics or science, the pattern is the same: The bilingual (largely Muslim) immigrants' skills are exceedingly poor compared to their Danish classmates." (Rockwool Foundation Research Unit, May 2007: Ethnic students does not make Danish children worse.

    The high expenses on special education for slow learners consumes one third of the budget for the Danish schools. "Immigrant children are clearly overrepresented on Copenhagen's schools for retarded children and children with physical handicaps. ... 51 percent of the children on the three schools in Copenhagen for children with physical and mental handicaps har immigrant back ground and on one of the schools the amount is 70 percent. ... These amounts are significantly higher than the share of immigrant children in the municipality, which is 33 percent. The many handicapped children are a clear evidence that there are many intermarried parents in the immigrant families." (Jydske Vestkysten, 4/4 2009 Tosprogede i overtal på handicapskoler).

    Our high level of education may also make it harder for inbred students to follow and finish their studies: "Young people with minority backgrounds have a significantly higher dropout rate at secondary schools than youth with a Danish background. For trade school education, the dropout rate among immigrants is 60 percent, twice as high among adolescents with a Danish background....

    There is great variation in educational outcomes when compared with national origin. For example, dropout among young people with Lebanese or Iranian background is far greater than among people of Vietnamese background." (Center for Knowledge on Integration in Randers, May 2005 "Youth, education and integration"). "Among immigrant children that are born and raised in Denmark, more than a third has no education. Among native Danes it is less than one fifth that do not get an education. (Statistics Denmark: "Indvandrere i 2007".

    The negative consequences of inbreeding are also vast for the Muslim world. Inbreeding may thus explain why only nine Muslims ever managed to receive the prestigious Nobel Prize (5 of them won the "Peace Prize" - for peace that turned out not to last for very long).

    The limited ability to understand, appreciate and produce knowledge following a limited IQ is probably also partly the reason why Muslim countries produce 1/10 of the World average when it comes to scientific research: "In 2003, the world average for production of articles per million inhabitants was 137, whereas none of the 47 OIC countries for which there were data achieved production above 107 per million inhabitants. The OIC average was just 13." (Nature 444, p. 26-27, 1. November 2006 "Islam and science: The data gap".

    The lack of interest in science and human development in the Muslim World is also clear in the UN Arab Human Development Reports (AHDR). AHDR concludes that there have been fewer books translated into Arabic in the last thousand years than the amount of books translated within the country of Spain every year:

    "The Arab world translates about 330 books annually, one fifth of the number that Greece translates. The cumulative total of translated books since the Caliph Maa'moun's [sic] time (the ninth century) is about 100,000, almost the average that Spain translates in one year." (Eugene Rogan "Arab Books and human development". Index of Censorship, vol. 33, issue 2 April 2004, p. 152-157). "70 percent of the Turkish citizens never read books."(APA, 23 February 2009 ")

    Conclusion

    There is no doubt that the wide spread tradition of first cousin marriages among Muslims has harmed the gene pool among Muslims. Because Muslims' religious beliefs prohibit marrying non-Muslims and thus prevents them from adding fresh genetic material to their population, the genetic damage done to their gene pool since their prophet allowed first cousin marriages 1,400 years ago are most likely massive. The overwhelming direct and indirect human and societal consequences have been explained above.

    Compassion for the health of future generations should be enough to ban intermarriage among first cousins. The economic and societal consequences do also count. Such a ban would also lessen Muslim immigration to the West because many Muslim families would like to be able to continue their practice of intermarriage in order to live up to cultural and religious traditions and keep wealth and power inside their family.

    A legislative ban on first cousin marriages is a logical and compassionate imperative for both the Muslim world, for EU and our Western national governments.

    Other articles by Nicolai Sennels:

    ·         Interview to EuropeNews, marts 31st 2009
    "Danish psychologist: "Integration of Muslims in Western societies is not possible".

    ·         Interview to The German Review of Books, December 2009: The one thing Muslim immigrants fear is being deported

    ·         Interview to the Finnish Hommaforum, December 17th 2009: An interview with Nicolai Sennels

    ·         Gates of Vienna, April 11th 2010: The Stigmatization Fallacy

    ·         Article in New English Review, May 2010: Muslims and Westerners: The psychological differences

    ·         Review on Gates of Vienna, May 8th 2010: Islam Means Never Having to say you're sorry

    ·         Interview in FrontPage Magazine, May 5th 2010: Among Criminal Muslims

    ·         Conference on FrontPageMagazine, June 21st 2010: A psychiatric Conference on Truthful Girl

    ·         Article on Europenews.dk, 5. februar 2010: Sexual abuse widespread among Muslims

    ·         180Grader, europenews.dk, GatesofVienna etc., July 28th 2010: Open letter to David Cameron regarding Turkey

     

    Nicolai Sennels is a psychologist and author of "Among Criminal Muslims. A Psychologist's Experiences from Copenhagen Municipality."

     



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    Re: What a lousy op-ed - total krep from beginning to end

    You got a point there but I think Chicago has had longer to hone the abilities to be corrupt - more practice.   They have it down to a science.

    On 08/15/2010 12:16 PM, Travis wrote:
    Don't forget Detroit.  lol

    On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:07 AM, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
       So what is different.  The wrappings are different but the product is still the most corrupt city in the country with the most corrupt administration and the most corrupt politicians, even worse than Louisiana and New Jersey.   Nothing changed except the surface - and the fact that a resident is now president which allows him to bring the corruption of Chicago to DC, as if DC needed any more corruption.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/15/opinion/15warren.html

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    Obama: If Shania Twain Becomes American Idol Judge, We'll Nuke Canada


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    Democrats Take Credit As The Cost Of A Blowjob Reaches 30 Year Low


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    Disagree with this one

    I think this guy is missing the point. What we need are jobs, all kinds
    of jobs, factory jobs, mechanics, small businesses, people making
    things, people using tools, people working together. For many of those
    jobs college is not an advantage. The huge money spent on a college
    education would be a waste and a lot of the people would not make it
    through unless they took basket weaving or ethnic or gender courses.
    The whole academic system needs revising, starting with the curriculum
    in grade and high schools. We had it mostly right years ago. This
    current mess is just not working.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/15/opinion/15taylor.html?th&emc=th

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    Re: What a lousy op-ed - total krep from beginning to end

    Don't forget Detroit.  lol

    On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:07 AM, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
       So what is different.  The wrappings are different but the product is still the most corrupt city in the country with the most corrupt administration and the most corrupt politicians, even worse than Louisiana and New Jersey.   Nothing changed except the surface - and the fact that a resident is now president which allows him to bring the corruption of Chicago to DC, as if DC needed any more corruption.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/15/opinion/15warren.html

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    What a lousy op-ed - total krep from beginning to end

    So what is different. The wrappings are different but the product
    is still the most corrupt city in the country with the most corrupt
    administration and the most corrupt politicians, even worse than
    Louisiana and New Jersey. Nothing changed except the surface - and the
    fact that a resident is now president which allows him to bring the
    corruption of Chicago to DC, as if DC needed any more corruption.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/15/opinion/15warren.html

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    Look for all the health insurance costs to go way up because of this one

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/15/health/policy/15insure.html?th&emc=th


    This is gonna really make a mess of state budgets and costs to the
    individual and the employer. Sure way to build up the job market. Are
    there any adults in DC these days in the government?

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    What piece of work this one is - Walking Hypocrisy in action

    Anyone else as ticked off at this guy as I am? I read this and have to
    keep from throwing things. This schmuck shows up for one day, gives a
    speech about how much he cares and that he will be right on the job to
    see all is made right - and then he flies out to vacation with the
    millionaires in Martha's Vineyard right after his vacation in Chicago,
    his wife's vacation at a 5-star resort in Spain. They speak about how
    the people should vacation on the Gulf Coast and spend their money there
    and then go party. What a disgusting POS he and his wife are. The
    sooner they are gone, the better. I don't need a daddy to tell me how
    to live or save or eat; I don't need a nanny, especially at my age and
    especially one who is such a total hypocrite as this crew is made up
    of. I just want him to go away and stay away - the sooner the better.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/15/us/politics/15obama.html?th&emc=th

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    What struck me about this article is that last paragraph

    When he says he is in charge of military things and has nothing to
    do with immigration, that is such a load of krep. He is a congressman;
    he votes for these things; he can discuss them before the vote; he can
    lobby to change the contents of the legislation; he can bring bills up
    in the House whether it is his committee or not. I get the feeling
    that these people seem entitled. Also love the way Bawney talks about
    his "profession" and how he was good at it. Seems to me that if he was
    good at it, then Fannie and Freddie would not be in the abysmal shape
    they are currently in.

    In the end it is the entitlement feeling that really gets me about these
    people. They have the right to be there and nobody else does. Vote
    them all out!!


    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/15/us/politics/15town.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&th&emc=th

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