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Re: Obama stops clean up to create bigger disaster

Euwe, you claim.......

"it's a discussion about the
authority of the government through Bush, who undercut the authority
of law."

Ok, so it is. Now just which one of Bushs' Executive Abominations has Obama reversed and or removed from practice ???

There is a speech (several) in which the skinny Kenyan promised to do just that.

I'll wait for that list... honesty counts...

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:43 AM, euwe <machgielis@gmail.com> wrote:

This discussion of Cheney
-------
This is a discussion about authority and the respect it deserves. Bush
commuted Libby's sentence, not Cheney - it's a discussion about the
authority of the government through Bush, who undercut the authority
of law. The idea that was put forth is that the Coast Guard has no
right to pull a barge out of action when the captain can't be located,
and it does not have the proper mandated life saving and fire fighting
equipment. Life is more important than property.

On Jun 21, 9:37 am, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> euwe,
>
> This discussion of Cheney is nothing more than your ongoing effort to
> deflect from or obfuscate the real issue, which is that the Obama
> administration has, on more than a dozen occasions, slowed or blocked
> efforts to clean up the oil spill. You've proven your political agenda
> is more important than containing the disaster and that you are either
> foolish or naive enough to believe that the handling of the disaster
> by this administration is anything short of gross negligence.
>
> You're no better or worse than those who defended Bush in the face of
> his many failings. Until the general population wakes up and stops
> looking at events thru colored glasses we can forget about getting
> this country back on track.
>
> On Jun 21, 9:16 am, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > And again he did not pardon Libby
> > =---
> > he commuted his sentence - that's a form of pardon, but not a full
> > pardon. It is covered under the same Presidential power of executive
> > clemency. He merely didn't clear him of wrong doing - he "just"
> > removed the inconvenience of serving jail time. Bush had a stake in
> > Libby's obstruction of justice, and probably was forced into the
> > compromise by Cheney. After that, they weren't so chummy.
>
> > On Jun 20, 9:42 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > And again he did not pardon Libby so your whole point is moot. What
> > > you are saying is that in reality you have no leg to stand on so you are
> > > just flailing around throwing mud but it won't stick. Typical Dem MO.
>
> > > euwe wrote:
> > > > sovereign authority and the respect due.
>
> > > > On Jun 20, 7:21 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> Just what does that have to do with the subject at hand.
>
> > > >>> or "I pardoned Libby?"
>
> > > >>> On Jun 20, 5:39 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>>> Whatever happened to "Personal Responsibility" ?? These ships were
> > > >>>> not manned by tourists but by seasoned sailors who are just, if not
> > > >>>> more so, concerned with the preservation of their own life as the
> > > >>>> USCG.
>
> > > >>>> Just which professional is more correct... the seasoned sailor or the
> > > >>>> seasoned sailor commanded by an organization that has never had a
> > > >>>> successful "private or public" enterprise ??
>
> > > >>>> On Jun 18, 4:01 pm, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>>>> oh, I get it - you're a libertoonian. So have you got your own carpet
> > > >>>>> cleaning business? Or maybe you refinish parking lot blacktops?
>
> > > >>>>> On Jun 18, 4:36 pm, bruce majors <bruce.maj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>>>>>http://libertarian2010.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/libertarians-say-gove...Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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Re: Obama stops clean up to create bigger disaster

This discussion of Cheney
-------
This is a discussion about authority and the respect it deserves. Bush
commuted Libby's sentence, not Cheney - it's a discussion about the
authority of the government through Bush, who undercut the authority
of law. The idea that was put forth is that the Coast Guard has no
right to pull a barge out of action when the captain can't be located,
and it does not have the proper mandated life saving and fire fighting
equipment. Life is more important than property.

On Jun 21, 9:37 am, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> euwe,
>
> This discussion of Cheney is nothing more than your ongoing effort to
> deflect from or obfuscate the real issue, which is that the Obama
> administration has, on more than a dozen occasions, slowed or blocked
> efforts to clean up the oil spill. You've proven your political agenda
> is more important than containing the disaster and that you are either
> foolish or naive enough to believe that the handling of the disaster
> by this administration is anything short of gross negligence.
>
> You're no better or worse than those who defended Bush in the face of
> his many failings. Until the general population wakes up and stops
> looking at events thru colored glasses we can forget about getting
> this country back on track.
>
> On Jun 21, 9:16 am, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > And again he did not pardon Libby
> > =---
> > he commuted his sentence - that's a form of pardon, but not a full
> > pardon. It is covered under the same Presidential power of executive
> > clemency. He merely didn't clear him of wrong doing - he "just"
> > removed the inconvenience of serving jail time. Bush had a stake in
> > Libby's obstruction of justice, and probably was forced into the
> > compromise by Cheney. After that, they weren't so chummy.
>
> > On Jun 20, 9:42 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > And again he did not pardon Libby so your whole point is moot. What
> > > you are saying is that in reality you have no leg to stand on so you are
> > > just flailing around throwing mud but it won't stick. Typical Dem MO.
>
> > > euwe wrote:
> > > > sovereign authority and the respect due.
>
> > > > On Jun 20, 7:21 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> Just what does that have to do with the subject at hand.
>
> > > >>> or "I pardoned Libby?"
>
> > > >>> On Jun 20, 5:39 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>>> Whatever happened to "Personal Responsibility" ?? These ships were
> > > >>>> not manned by tourists but by seasoned sailors who are just, if not
> > > >>>> more so, concerned with the preservation of their own life as the
> > > >>>> USCG.
>
> > > >>>> Just which professional is more correct... the seasoned sailor or the
> > > >>>> seasoned sailor commanded by an organization that has never had a
> > > >>>> successful "private or public" enterprise ??
>
> > > >>>> On Jun 18, 4:01 pm, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>>>> oh, I get it - you're a libertoonian. So have you got your own carpet
> > > >>>>> cleaning business? Or maybe you refinish parking lot blacktops?
>
> > > >>>>> On Jun 18, 4:36 pm, bruce majors <bruce.maj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>>>>>http://libertarian2010.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/libertarians-say-gove...Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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Re: Obama stops clean up to create bigger disaster

euwe,

This discussion of Cheney is nothing more than your ongoing effort to
deflect from or obfuscate the real issue, which is that the Obama
administration has, on more than a dozen occasions, slowed or blocked
efforts to clean up the oil spill. You've proven your political agenda
is more important than containing the disaster and that you are either
foolish or naive enough to believe that the handling of the disaster
by this administration is anything short of gross negligence.

You're no better or worse than those who defended Bush in the face of
his many failings. Until the general population wakes up and stops
looking at events thru colored glasses we can forget about getting
this country back on track.

On Jun 21, 9:16 am, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And again he did not pardon Libby
> =---
> he commuted his sentence - that's a form of pardon, but not a full
> pardon. It is covered under the same Presidential power of executive
> clemency. He merely didn't clear him of wrong doing - he "just"
> removed the inconvenience of serving jail time. Bush had a stake in
> Libby's obstruction of justice, and probably was forced into the
> compromise by Cheney. After that, they weren't so chummy.
>
> On Jun 20, 9:42 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > And again he did not pardon Libby so your whole point is moot. What
> > you are saying is that in reality you have no leg to stand on so you are
> > just flailing around throwing mud but it won't stick. Typical Dem MO.
>
> > euwe wrote:
> > > sovereign authority and the respect due.
>
> > > On Jun 20, 7:21 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> Just what does that have to do with the subject at hand.
>
> > >>> or "I pardoned Libby?"
>
> > >>> On Jun 20, 5:39 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>> Whatever happened to "Personal Responsibility" ?? These ships were
> > >>>> not manned by tourists but by seasoned sailors who are just, if not
> > >>>> more so, concerned with the preservation of their own life as the
> > >>>> USCG.
>
> > >>>> Just which professional is more correct... the seasoned sailor or the
> > >>>> seasoned sailor commanded by an organization that has never had a
> > >>>> successful "private or public" enterprise ??
>
> > >>>> On Jun 18, 4:01 pm, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>>> oh, I get it - you're a libertoonian. So have you got your own carpet
> > >>>>> cleaning business? Or maybe you refinish parking lot blacktops?
>
> > >>>>> On Jun 18, 4:36 pm, bruce majors <bruce.maj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>>>>http://libertarian2010.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/libertarians-say-gove...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: Obama stops clean up to create bigger disaster

It isn't a full pardon - it's a commutation of sentence under the
executive clemency law - Bush obviously didn't want Libby upset, so he
didn't make him serve jail time for obstruction of justice - the
refusal to answer questions implicating the one who leaked the
information about Plame to the media. So your whole "it's ok not to
obey laws if the administration doesn't follow the law holds about as
much water as a wet paper sack.

On Jun 21, 7:22 am, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> It is not a pardon. A pardon is what Bubba was selling at the end of
> his term for cash and votes for Ms Bubba in the election for NY senator.
>
>
>
> euwe wrote:
> > And again he did not pardon Libby
> > =---
> > he commuted his sentence - that's a form of pardon, but not a full
> > pardon. It is covered under the same Presidential power of executive
> > clemency. He merely didn't clear him of wrong doing - he "just"
> > removed the inconvenience of serving jail time. Bush had a stake in
> > Libby's obstruction of justice, and probably was forced into the
> > compromise by Cheney. After that, they weren't so chummy.
>
> > On Jun 20, 9:42 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >> And again he did not pardon Libby so your whole point is moot. What
> >> you are saying is that in reality you have no leg to stand on so you are
> >> just flailing around throwing mud but it won't stick. Typical Dem MO.
>
> >> euwe wrote:
>
> >>> sovereign authority and the respect due.
>
> >>> On Jun 20, 7:21 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Just what does that have to do with the subject at hand.
>
> >>>>> or "I pardoned Libby?"
>
> >>>>> On Jun 20, 5:39 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Whatever happened to "Personal Responsibility" ?? These ships were
> >>>>>> not manned by tourists but by seasoned sailors who are just, if not
> >>>>>> more so, concerned with the preservation of their own life as the
> >>>>>> USCG.
>
> >>>>>> Just which professional is more correct... the seasoned sailor or the
> >>>>>> seasoned sailor commanded by an organization that has never had a
> >>>>>> successful "private or public" enterprise ??
>
> >>>>>> On Jun 18, 4:01 pm, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> oh, I get it - you're a libertoonian. So have you got your own carpet
> >>>>>>> cleaning business? Or maybe you refinish parking lot blacktops?
>
> >>>>>>> On Jun 18, 4:36 pm, bruce majors <bruce.maj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>http://libertarian2010.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/libertarians-say-gove...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: Obama stops clean up to create bigger disaster

Obama didn't stop it, the Coast Guard did - to insure the safety of
the barges - they didn't want another explosion and loss of life by
cutting corners like bp did.

On Jun 21, 7:21 am, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> You are not answering the question. You are just trying to push the
> question somewhere else. Meanwhile back to Zero trying to stop the
> clean up so he can have a bigger crisis not to waste (thank you, Rahm,
> for telling us your philosophy of government - explains the terrible job
> this admin is doing). Guess you have problems answering that
> truthfully so you try to hijack the subject. Typical of Dem liars.
>
>
>
> euwe wrote:
> > So Libby just refused to answer because he had a sudden anxiety
> > attack? - that fits the facts, doesn't it.
>
> > On Jun 20, 9:41 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >> Suppose you then find out what the FBI did with the original interview
> >> of Tom Russet. They claimed they could not find it at all. Then you
> >> have a member of the jury who was a former assistant to Russet and was
> >> releasing notes he took so he could write a book about the trial and the
> >> jury deliberations. That is patently illegal. Then you have a judge
> >> that claims that the prosecution cannot bring up new things in the
> >> summation and Fitz brought up a slew of things that could not be
> >> answered because the defense had already spoken. The judge permitted
> >> it. And to this day the man who really released the fact that Plame
> >> was CIA ,Richard ARmitage of the State Dept, was left alone totally and
> >> he was the one who should have been on trial. That is the truth and
> >> you cannot deny it. There were so many mangled points in that trial
> >> that it should have been null processed and restarted to keep within
> >> legal constraints.
>
> >> euwe wrote:
>
> >>> Have your fun, but the difference between commuting a sentence and
> >>> pardoning doesn't change the fact that he was sympathetic to those who
> >>> were involved in the Plame affair. Your complaints are nothing but
> >>> legalistic obfuscation of the truth - as was Bush.
>
> >>> On Jun 20, 5:37 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>>> FS. You lied. Out and out lied. And did it on purpose. If nobody
> >>>> called you on it then it might stuck like that claims that Sarah said
> >>>> she could see Russia from her back yard. Never happened. That was
> >>>> Tina Fey. You are trying to do the same thing again. Liar. Big
> >>>> plain old liar.
>
> >>>> euwe wrote:
>
> >>>>> I didn't lie, I "misspoke" - you know, like Cheney when he said "I
> >>>>> think he has indeed, reconstituted nuclear weapons."
>
> >>>>> On Jun 20, 5:21 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> so he did not pardon him. You lied again as usual.
>
> >>>>>> euwe wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> right you are - he was just spared prison time for obstruction of
> >>>>>>> justice.
>
> >>>>>>> My decision to commute his prison sentence leaves in place a harsh
> >>>>>>> punishment for Mr. Libby. The reputation he gained through his years
> >>>>>>> of public service and professional work in the legal community is
> >>>>>>> forever damaged. His wife and young children have also suffered
> >>>>>>> immensely. He will remain on probation. The significant fines imposed
> >>>>>>> by the judge will remain in effect. The consequences of his felony
> >>>>>>> conviction on his former life as a lawyer, public servant, and private
> >>>>>>> citizen will be long-lasting.
>
> >>>>>>> The Constitution gives the President the power of clemency to be used
> >>>>>>> when he deems it to be warranted. It is my judgment that a commutation
> >>>>>>> of the prison term in Mr. Libby's case is an appropriate exercise of
> >>>>>>> this power.
>
> >>>>>>> On Jun 20, 5:09 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> There you go again. Bush did not pardon Libby. However your boy Bubba
> >>>>>>>> pardoned all sorts of people to get support for his wife and to gain big
> >>>>>>>> bucks (remember Mark Rich?).
>
> >>>>>>>> euwe wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> Whatever happened to "Personal Responsibility" ?
> >>>>>>>>> ---------
> >>>>>>>>> You mean "I forgot?"
>
> >>>>>>>>> or "I pardoned Libby?"
>
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 5:39 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Whatever happened to "Personal Responsibility" ?? These ships were
> >>>>>>>>>> not manned by tourists but by seasoned sailors who are just, if not
> >>>>>>>>>> more so, concerned with the preservation of their own life as the
> >>>>>>>>>> USCG.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Just which professional is more correct... the seasoned sailor or the
> >>>>>>>>>> seasoned sailor commanded by an organization that has never had a
> >>>>>>>>>> successful "private or public" enterprise ??
>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 4:01 pm, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> oh, I get it - you're a libertoonian. So have you got your own carpet
> >>>>>>>>>>> cleaning business? Or maybe you refinish parking lot blacktops?
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 4:36 pm, bruce majors <bruce.maj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>http://libertarian2010.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/libertarians-say-gove...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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JP Friend or foe?

While the invaders are busy harbouring the terrorist military regimes like india, in our Afghan neighbourhood, and while our nation sacrifices for their adventures, we are being threatened so that we dont get our resources from wherever we want....so, is this a friend or foe? And look at our government and their attitude, and they way they are going on their knees wellcoming people from such nations...what a tragedy....!!!

Holbrooke Threatens Pakistan Over Gas Pipeline Deal With Iran

Posted by: "Rick Rozoff" rwrozoff@yahoo.com rwrozoff

Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:51 pm (PDT)

http://en.trend. az/regions/ world/usa/ 1707641.html

Trend News Agency/Associated Press of Pakistan
June 20, 2010

U.S. envoy takes u-turn on Pakistan-Iran gas pipeline project

U.S. Special Representative for Pakistan and Afghanistan Richard Holbrooke Sunday warned Pakistan against a multi-billion- dollar Iran gas pipeline intended to bring the much-needed natural gas to the energy-starved country, reported APP, a local official news agency, on Sunday.

Re: Obama stops clean up to create bigger disaster

And again he did not pardon Libby
=---
he commuted his sentence - that's a form of pardon, but not a full
pardon. It is covered under the same Presidential power of executive
clemency. He merely didn't clear him of wrong doing - he "just"
removed the inconvenience of serving jail time. Bush had a stake in
Libby's obstruction of justice, and probably was forced into the
compromise by Cheney. After that, they weren't so chummy.

On Jun 20, 9:42 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> And again he did not pardon Libby so your whole point is moot. What
> you are saying is that in reality you have no leg to stand on so you are
> just flailing around throwing mud but it won't stick. Typical Dem MO.
>
> euwe wrote:
> > sovereign authority and the respect due.
>
> > On Jun 20, 7:21 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Just what does that have to do with the subject at hand.
>
> >>> or "I pardoned Libby?"
>
> >>> On Jun 20, 5:39 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Whatever happened to "Personal Responsibility" ?? These ships were
> >>>> not manned by tourists but by seasoned sailors who are just, if not
> >>>> more so, concerned with the preservation of their own life as the
> >>>> USCG.
>
> >>>> Just which professional is more correct... the seasoned sailor or the
> >>>> seasoned sailor commanded by an organization that has never had a
> >>>> successful "private or public" enterprise ??
>
> >>>> On Jun 18, 4:01 pm, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> oh, I get it - you're a libertoonian. So have you got your own carpet
> >>>>> cleaning business? Or maybe you refinish parking lot blacktops?
>
> >>>>> On Jun 18, 4:36 pm, bruce majors <bruce.maj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>http://libertarian2010.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/libertarians-say-gove...

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Re: ‘Fat redneck’ may be Republican Party’s 2012 presidential nominee, analysts say

I think he would make a fine president.

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:22 AM, Cold Water <coldwater000@gmail.com> wrote:

http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/20/fat-redneck-mississippi-governor-may-be-partys-2012-presidential-nominee-analysts-say/

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Re: Obama stops clean up to create bigger disaster

So Libby just refused to answer because he had a sudden anxiety
attack? - that fits the facts, doesn't it.

On Jun 20, 9:41 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Suppose you then find out what the FBI did with the original interview
> of Tom Russet. They claimed they could not find it at all. Then you
> have a member of the jury who was a former assistant to Russet and was
> releasing notes he took so he could write a book about the trial and the
> jury deliberations. That is patently illegal. Then you have a judge
> that claims that the prosecution cannot bring up new things in the
> summation and Fitz brought up a slew of things that could not be
> answered because the defense had already spoken. The judge permitted
> it. And to this day the man who really released the fact that Plame
> was CIA ,Richard ARmitage of the State Dept, was left alone totally and
> he was the one who should have been on trial. That is the truth and
> you cannot deny it. There were so many mangled points in that trial
> that it should have been null processed and restarted to keep within
> legal constraints.
>
> euwe wrote:
> > Have your fun, but the difference between commuting a sentence and
> > pardoning doesn't change the fact that he was sympathetic to those who
> > were involved in the Plame affair. Your complaints are nothing but
> > legalistic obfuscation of the truth - as was Bush.
>
> > On Jun 20, 5:37 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >> FS. You lied. Out and out lied. And did it on purpose. If nobody
> >> called you on it then it might stuck like that claims that Sarah said
> >> she could see Russia from her back yard. Never happened. That was
> >> Tina Fey. You are trying to do the same thing again. Liar. Big
> >> plain old liar.
>
> >> euwe wrote:
>
> >>> I didn't lie, I "misspoke" - you know, like Cheney when he said "I
> >>> think he has indeed, reconstituted nuclear weapons."
>
> >>> On Jun 20, 5:21 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>>> so he did not pardon him. You lied again as usual.
>
> >>>> euwe wrote:
>
> >>>>> right you are - he was just spared prison time for obstruction of
> >>>>> justice.
>
> >>>>> My decision to commute his prison sentence leaves in place a harsh
> >>>>> punishment for Mr. Libby. The reputation he gained through his years
> >>>>> of public service and professional work in the legal community is
> >>>>> forever damaged. His wife and young children have also suffered
> >>>>> immensely. He will remain on probation. The significant fines imposed
> >>>>> by the judge will remain in effect. The consequences of his felony
> >>>>> conviction on his former life as a lawyer, public servant, and private
> >>>>> citizen will be long-lasting.
>
> >>>>> The Constitution gives the President the power of clemency to be used
> >>>>> when he deems it to be warranted. It is my judgment that a commutation
> >>>>> of the prison term in Mr. Libby's case is an appropriate exercise of
> >>>>> this power.
>
> >>>>> On Jun 20, 5:09 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> There you go again. Bush did not pardon Libby. However your boy Bubba
> >>>>>> pardoned all sorts of people to get support for his wife and to gain big
> >>>>>> bucks (remember Mark Rich?).
>
> >>>>>> euwe wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> Whatever happened to "Personal Responsibility" ?
> >>>>>>> ---------
> >>>>>>> You mean "I forgot?"
>
> >>>>>>> or "I pardoned Libby?"
>
> >>>>>>> On Jun 20, 5:39 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> Whatever happened to "Personal Responsibility" ?? These ships were
> >>>>>>>> not manned by tourists but by seasoned sailors who are just, if not
> >>>>>>>> more so, concerned with the preservation of their own life as the
> >>>>>>>> USCG.
>
> >>>>>>>> Just which professional is more correct... the seasoned sailor or the
> >>>>>>>> seasoned sailor commanded by an organization that has never had a
> >>>>>>>> successful "private or public" enterprise ??
>
> >>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 4:01 pm, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> oh, I get it - you're a libertoonian. So have you got your own carpet
> >>>>>>>>> cleaning business? Or maybe you refinish parking lot blacktops?
>
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 4:36 pm, bruce majors <bruce.maj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>http://libertarian2010.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/libertarians-say-gove...

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